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#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2012-04-30)
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Meeting started by limburgher at 17:01:21 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-30/fesco.2012-04-30…
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Meeting summary
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* init process (limburgher, 17:01:22)
* #839 Proposal for revitalizing the packager sponsorship model
(limburgher, 17:05:01)
* AGREED: Proposal Table sponsorship revitalization until next meeting
in hopes of higher FESCO attendance, and an additional week's
discussion is accepted (+5,-:0,0:0) (limburgher, 17:12:08)
* Next week's chair (limburgher, 17:12:23)
* ACTION: notting to chair next week 2012-05-07 (limburgher,
17:14:42)
* Open Floor (limburgher, 17:14:49)
* AGREED: #840 Packaging exception in software repos is rejected
(+0,-:5,0:0) (limburgher, 17:16:34)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816818 (gholms,
17:17:31)
* AGREED: Proposal Defer discussion of
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816818 until after the
discussion in the bug actually finishes (or fails to) and fpc is
consulted.(+5,-:0,0:0) (limburgher, 17:24:20)
Meeting ended at 17:30:27 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* notting to chair next week 2012-05-07
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* notting
* notting to chair next week 2012-05-07
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* limburgher (37)
* mjg59 (16)
* gholms (9)
* sgallagh (7)
* zodbot (6)
* pjones (6)
* notting (5)
* jwb (1)
* mmaslano (0)
* nirik (0)
* mitr (0)
* t8m (0)
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As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20120430
Next meeting is scheduled for 2012-05-07 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting.
If you have topics you think we should bring up at the meeting, please
add them to the Wiki page at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20120507 . Thanks!
TOPIC: Previous Meeting Follow-Up
=======================================================================
* tflink sent out testing request for f15 livecd-tools to test@ but no
new karma has been filed
* assumed that kparal communicated with ABRT team about test day since
it did happen
TOPIC: Fedora 17 Final Status/Planning
=======================================================================
* F17 Final TC2 is available for testing
* F17 Final RC1 probably sometime next week
TOPIC: Test Day Report
=======================================================================
* ABRT test day on 2012-04-26
* http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2012-April/107483.html
* two people participated in the ABRT test day
* 12 test cases were modified and executed
* 8 bugs were filed
TOPIC: Upcoming QA Events
=======================================================================
* Gnome Boxes Test Day on 2012-05-03
* http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2012-05-03_Gnome_Boxes
* F17 final blocker bug review meeting #2 rescheduled for 2012-05-01 @
17:00 UTC
* F17 final blocker bug review meeting #3 scheduled for Friday,
2012-05-04 @ 17:00 UTC
TOPIC: AutoQA Update
=======================================================================
* No new AutoQA Updates
TOPIC: Open Floor
=======================================================================
* No new topics were raised
ACTION ITEMS
=======================================================================
* pschindl to poke gnome-boxes devs about Thursday's test day
Hello
We had a great meeting with lot of actions, info and agreements.
Please refer to the logs for more info.
Log : http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-14/apac.2012-04-14-…
Agenda : https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-04-28
Following is the extract from the logs for your quick reference, Thanks !
Meeting started by bckurera at 04:02:08 UTC (full logs).
Meeting summary
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2012-04-28
(bckurera, 04:02:25)
Ambassador Pinging (bckurera, 04:02:53)
Review *ACTION* items from the last meeting (bckurera, 04:06:37)
FranciscoD has been lazy and doesnt have updates (FranciscoD, 04:07:33)
ACTION: bckurera to work on video to elaborate the importance of
apac-trac (bckurera, 04:07:55)
ACTION: FranciscoD mail relevant folks with survey ideas (FranciscoD, 04:08:39)
ACTION: tuanta Reorganize items page for face2face discussion at KL
(bckurera, 04:09:03)
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2012-April/005414.html
(VICODAN_, 04:11:45)
500 buttons for fudconkl, produced under fudcon budget (bckurera, 04:18:44)
i then asked if anybody want to produce extra under famsco budget,
which will later distributed across apac .. and what are amount extra
we want (bckurera, 04:18:51)
buttons: it would be dicy getting them in the US, shipped to harish,
and delivered to KL in time, EOF (FranciscoD, 04:21:56)
KageSenshi will start production of fudconkl buttons as soon as he
gets money from harish, that means, either monday or tuesday
(KageSenshi, 04:23:14)
http://justbuttons.org/quick-tips/what-is-acetate.html (VICODAN_, 04:26:35)
AGREED: USD 100 funding to produce 500 buttons for APAC (bckurera, 04:38:49)
APAC for FAmSCO (dramsey for you!) (bckurera, 04:40:28)
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_rules (bckurera, 04:49:10)
APAC Events and Status of F17 Release Parties (dramsey) (bckurera, 04:53:32)
FranciscoD help co-ordinating questionnaires for elections
(FranciscoD, 04:53:56)
bckurera is having a booth today at Apache bar camp in Kandy
(FranciscoD, 04:55:26)
Everything was going according to plan, just waiting for the funds
last. Maybe some day, I was able to spread the invitation. (arifiauo,
04:56:12)
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/23#comment:12 (zerng07, 04:59:09)
Review APAC trac tickets (bckurera, 05:02:07)
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/report/9 (bckurera, 05:02:25)
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/23 (bckurera, 05:02:53)
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ticket/23 (bckurera, 05:07:09)
https://www.paypal.com/id/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_convert-currency-withdrawal
(arifiauo, 05:13:29)
http://www.oanda.com/currency/converter/ (harish, 05:14:58)
AGREED: Ticket #23 funding for Taiwan F17 release party (bckurera, 05:17:13)
Regulating regional tracs (bckurera, 05:17:46)
AGREED: make apac-india read-only, then add info to header/footer that
it's read-only and to refer to the apac trac. (bckurera, 05:19:58)
ACTION: bckurera update infra about the regional trac and close the
business (bckurera, 05:20:25)
open Floor (bckurera, 05:20:44)
ACTION: FranciscoD ask adimania to confirm he has received tickets
(FranciscoD, 05:23:18)
ACTION: MavJS, can you ping all applicants using their non @fp.o
addresses to check whether they've received their tickets (FranciscoD,
05:23:45)
for the video that you are making about trac etc, do indicate there
that the exchange rate being used is via oanda.com not anything else.
(FranciscoD, 05:24:17)
those who are attending fudcon kl, dont forget to post this
http://fedora.my/events/fudconkl2012/docs/going-to-fudconkl.png to
your blog/facebook/twitter/googleplus/wherever :D (KageSenshi,
05:25:55)
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_rules (bckurera, 05:27:37)
Meeting ended at 05:28:54 UTC (full logs).
Action items
bckurera to work on video to elaborate the importance of apac-trac
FranciscoD mail relevant folks with survey ideas
tuanta Reorganize items page for face2face discussion at KL
bckurera update infra about the regional trac and close the business
FranciscoD ask adimania to confirm he has received tickets
MavJS, can you ping all applicants using their non @fp.o addresses to
check whether they've received their tickets
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Regards,
Buddhike Chandradeepa Kurera(bckurera)
Fedora Ambassador - APAC region
Event Liaison - Design Team
Email: bckurera(a)fedoraproject.org | IRC: bckurera
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#fedora-meeting: Fedora Kernel meeting
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Meeting started by jwb at 17:59:30 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-27/fedora-kernel.20…
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Meeting summary
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* init (jwb, 18:00:06)
* rawhide (jwb, 18:02:51)
* Rawhide is at 3.4-rc4-git3. RCs are coming fairly regularly (jwb,
18:08:17)
* F17 (jwb, 18:09:37)
* F17 at 3.3.2. 3.3.4 being built for TC2 (jwb, 18:12:29)
* F16 (jwb, 18:13:56)
* F16 is on 3.3.2. 3.3.4 will be built and submitted to
updates-testing (jwb, 18:15:01)
* LINK:
http://codemonkey.org.uk/2012/04/27/weekly-fedora-kernel-bug-statistics-apr…
weekly bug statistics (jwb, 18:19:33)
* Progress on F16 bug count is being made. This also helps F15/F17 by
either closing out duplicates or preventing those bugs from being
hit there as all 3 releases are on the same kernel version (jwb,
18:20:17)
* F15 (jwb, 18:47:05)
* F15 is at 2.6.43.2 (3.3.2) (jwb, 18:48:25)
* open floor (jwb, 18:49:29)
* open floor - darkserver (jwb, 18:50:06)
* ACTION: jwb to open bug against darkserver for additional build time
issue (jwb, 18:52:35)
* open floor (jwb, 18:53:39)
Meeting ended at 19:00:33 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* jwb to open bug against darkserver for additional build time issue
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* jwb
* jwb to open bug against darkserver for additional build time issue
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* jwb (117)
* VICODAN_ (63)
* jforbes (31)
* davej (21)
* nirik (14)
* dgilmore (8)
* linville (6)
* zodbot (3)
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Date: Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 2:47 AM
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#fedora-id Meeting
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Meeting started by jurank_dankkal at 15:59:52 UTC. The full logs are
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Meeting summary
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* ACTION: mendengarkan pendapat chendra (jurank_dankkal, 16:02:59)
* ACTION: chendra dan kita semua satukan diri dalam fedora indonesia
(jurank_dankkal, 16:51:02)
* ACTION: masih belum ada titik tengah (jurank_dankkal, 17:40:09)
* ACTION: menyatukan fedora-id dgn nama baru (jurank_dankkal, 18:23:53)
* IDEA: menyatukan fedora-id dgn nama baru (jurank_dankkal, 18:24:36)
* ACTION: open floor (jurank_dankkal, 18:36:43)
Meeting ended at 18:37:18 UTC.
Action Items
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* mendengarkan pendapat chendra
* chendra dan kita semua satukan diri dalam fedora indonesia
* masih belum ada titik tengah
* menyatukan fedora-id dgn nama baru
* open floor
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* chendra
* mendengarkan pendapat chendra
* chendra dan kita semua satukan diri dalam fedora indonesia
* **UNASSIGNED**
* masih belum ada titik tengah
* menyatukan fedora-id dgn nama baru
* open floor
People Present (lines said)
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* chendra (529)
* jurank_dankkal (223)
* sentabi (81)
* renodesper (51)
* ucateuro (35)
* wajatmaka (5)
* arifiauo (3)
* zodbot (2)
* mafatahna (2)
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#fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2012-04-26)
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Meeting started by nirik at 18:00:01 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-26/infrastructure.2…
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Meeting summary
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* Robot Roll Call (nirik, 18:00:01)
* New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. (nirik, 18:03:53)
* two factor auth status (nirik, 18:05:36)
* Staging re-work status (nirik, 18:06:14)
* Applications status / discussion (nirik, 18:06:43)
* we moved gather-easyfix into production. Thanks pingou! (nirik,
18:07:39)
* tagger and packager deployment is almost done. (nirik, 18:08:01)
* ACTION: nirik to follow up on census progress. (nirik, 18:16:05)
* dgilmore working on composedb app. (nirik, 18:19:11)
* Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 18:20:03)
* 2012-04-29 to 2012-05-03 - Kevin out in the wilds of NM (nirik,
18:20:11)
* 2012-05-01 to 2012-05-15 - F17 Final Freeze. (nirik, 18:20:12)
* 2012-05-01 - nag fi-apprentices. (nirik, 18:20:12)
* 2011-05-03 - gitweb-cache removal day. (nirik, 18:20:12)
* 2012-05-09 - Check if puppet works on f17 yet. (nirik, 18:20:12)
* 2012-05-10 - drop inactive fi-apprentices (nirik, 18:20:12)
* 2012-05-15 - F17 release (nirik, 18:20:14)
* Open Floor (nirik, 18:23:37)
Meeting ended at 18:36:09 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* nirik to follow up on census progress.
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* nirik
* nirik to follow up on census progress.
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* nirik (70)
* abadger1999 (18)
* mdomsch (18)
* skvidal (15)
* dgilmore (6)
* zodbot (4)
* pingou (3)
* lmacken (2)
* threebean (2)
* smooge (2)
* codemaniac (1)
* tibbs (1)
* ianweller (1)
* ricky (0)
* CodeBlock (0)
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18:00:01 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2012-04-26)
18:00:01 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Apr 26 18:00:01 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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18:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure
18:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
18:00:01 <nirik> #topic Robot Roll Call
18:00:01 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal CodeBlock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean
18:00:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: CodeBlock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge threebean
18:00:09 * abadger1999 here
18:00:18 <tibbs> Wow, that time already?
18:00:47 * mdomsch has divided attention, as usual
18:00:55 <codemaniac> \o all
18:01:08 * ianweller here
18:01:17 <nirik> morning everyone.
18:01:24 * skvidal is here
18:01:26 <skvidal> or something
18:02:33 <nirik> we are working on hosted migration, which didn't go all that smoothly... ;( So, probibly this will be a short meeting. ;)
18:03:34 * threebean is here
18:03:53 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks.
18:03:54 <nirik> If any new folks want to give a quick one line bio or any apprentices
18:03:54 <nirik> would like to ask general questions, they can do so now. Anyone?
18:05:24 <nirik> ok... moving on then
18:05:36 <nirik> #topic two factor auth status
18:05:38 <nirik> any news here?
18:05:44 <skvidal> no
18:05:48 <skvidal> think about this week :)
18:06:08 <nirik> yeah, no kidding. ;)
18:06:14 <nirik> #topic Staging re-work status
18:06:26 <nirik> I am waiting on this until we have bapp01 retired...
18:06:31 <nirik> so, hopefully soonish.
18:06:43 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion
18:06:47 <nirik> any application news?
18:07:05 <nirik> abadger1999 / lmacken / threebean / pingou / CodeBlock
18:07:18 <lmacken> threebean and I are almost done with the proper tagger & packages deployment
18:07:18 <abadger1999> been working on smolt all week :-(
18:07:19 <threebean> lmacken pushed tagger into production
18:07:36 <abadger1999> I'm getting ready to toss it out the airlock.
18:07:39 <nirik> #info we moved gather-easyfix into production. Thanks pingou!
18:07:41 <pingou> working on hyperkitty and kittystore now :)
18:07:50 <pingou> thank you nirik for taking care of this :)
18:08:01 <nirik> #info tagger and packager deployment is almost done.
18:08:08 <lmacken> got quite a few emails today about people wanting to help fix bugs in bodhi, thanks to the easyfix stuff :)
18:08:15 <pingou> nice! :)
18:08:21 <nirik> info smolt is a pile.
18:08:27 <nirik> oops... forgot the #. ;)
18:08:55 <nirik> abadger1999: so where is it now? runs on app07, but poorly/
18:09:16 <abadger1999> nirik: I'm setting it up in pupet to run on app07
18:09:29 <abadger1999> but it's generating a lot of 0 length files for stats.
18:09:33 <abadger1999> otoh, I looked on bapp01
18:09:40 <abadger1999> and although there's less 0 length files...
18:09:43 <nirik> abadger1999: some of them always were 0 I thought?
18:09:51 <abadger1999> over half of hte files there are 0 length as well.
18:10:09 <nirik> yeah.
18:10:17 <abadger1999> so I'm not sure if this is new or if there's some timing issue or what.
18:10:43 <nirik> does the main stats.html one appear?
18:10:44 <abadger1999> at this point, I'd like to just push it out since we already want to get rid of smolt.
18:11:00 <nirik> yeah.
18:11:13 <nirik> push out whats working, call it good, work on announcing sunsut
18:11:15 <nirik> sunset even
18:11:18 <abadger1999> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Apr 26 18:01 stats.html
18:11:23 <nirik> :(
18:11:37 <abadger1999> vs
18:11:39 <abadger1999> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 191843 Apr 25 00:18 stats.html
18:11:48 <nirik> yeah, thats the page many people hit...
18:11:51 <abadger1999> the latter is what's on bapp01; former is what's on app07
18:12:35 <nirik> so, perhaps we take the last bapp01 one, slap a "This data is from 2012-04-25 and will not be updated, please see the census project" and leave it static?
18:12:46 <abadger1999> We could do that.
18:12:55 <abadger1999> disable the cron job
18:13:10 <abadger1999> okay. I'll do that.
18:14:04 <nirik> some people might not like that, but if we are sunsetting it anyhow...
18:14:41 <nirik> any objections? other ideas?
18:14:46 <abadger1999> What's the latest update on using census?
18:15:17 <nirik> I've not heard much recently.
18:16:05 <nirik> #action nirik to follow up on census progress.
18:16:13 <nirik> any other general application news?
18:16:30 * dgilmore is about to start on a composedb app
18:16:56 <nirik> dgilmore: cool. Are you doing that yourself? or working with others?
18:17:29 <nirik> anything we can do to assist at this point?
18:17:42 <dgilmore> nirik: just myself
18:18:02 <dgilmore> trying to work out whether to use Django TurboGears or something else
18:18:17 <dgilmore> im hoping that it will be ready for f18 dev
18:18:32 <dgilmore> development
18:18:37 <dgilmore> i.e when we branch
18:18:54 <nirik> cool. Might write up a plan/outline... might be some folks will want to help out with it.
18:19:11 <nirik> #info dgilmore working on composedb app.
18:20:03 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items
18:20:11 <nirik> #info 2012-04-29 to 2012-05-03 - Kevin out in the wilds of NM
18:20:12 <nirik> #info 2012-05-01 to 2012-05-15 - F17 Final Freeze.
18:20:12 <nirik> #info 2012-05-01 - nag fi-apprentices.
18:20:12 <nirik> #info 2011-05-03 - gitweb-cache removal day.
18:20:12 <nirik> #info 2012-05-09 - Check if puppet works on f17 yet.
18:20:12 <nirik> #info 2012-05-10 - drop inactive fi-apprentices
18:20:14 <nirik> #info 2012-05-15 - F17 release
18:20:21 <nirik> note that I will be out early next week...
18:20:36 <smooge> I can cover freeze tickets and such
18:20:37 <nirik> so if anyone needs anything from me before then, catch me today or friday.
18:21:21 <nirik> anything else upcoming folks want to schedule or note?
18:21:43 <nirik> oh, did I get the freeze wrong.
18:22:31 <nirik> yeah, it's a week out from that on the 08th
18:23:37 <nirik> #topic Open Floor
18:23:43 <nirik> anyone have anything for open floor?
18:24:11 * nirik will close out in a minute if nothing comes up
18:24:17 <mdomsch> MM brokenness?
18:24:24 <mdomsch> sorry I was out of pocket on Tuesday
18:24:59 <mdomsch> not sure why it chose that day to blow up and not before, if there really were a bunch of invalid values in host.bandwidth_int
18:24:59 <nirik> mdomsch: oh yeah.
18:25:07 <nirik> us either. ;(
18:25:13 <nirik> that did seem to fix it though...
18:25:14 <mdomsch> I have a patch in MM 1.4 to force that column NOT NULL
18:25:30 <nirik> we also hotfixed the script to error on those moving forward.
18:25:38 <nirik> so if it happens again we should be able to see it right away.
18:25:39 <mdomsch> I suspect there are similar kinds of failures latent
18:26:07 <skvidal> fun!
18:26:17 <nirik> on the plus side, I have a much better understanding now of how all the parts fit and work in mm. ;)
18:26:26 <mdomsch> well, that's something :-)
18:26:48 <mdomsch> thanks all for scrambling to fix it
18:26:51 <skvidal> and to that end - there sure seem to be a lot of moving parts in MM
18:27:19 <mdomsch> skvidal: yes...
18:27:24 <skvidal> I added a hotfix to MM so that if we start seeing tracebacks resulting in a BAD Request again
18:27:30 <skvidal> we'll at least get a piece of the traceback
18:28:21 <mdomsch> skvidal: it's the result of being our highest request volume application, and my first attempt at a sizeable program in python
18:28:30 <skvidal> I wasn't chastising you
18:28:45 <skvidal> I know exactly how things evolved - it's not something to be blamed for
18:29:00 <nirik> to be fair, all our apps logging is... not ideal. ;)
18:29:02 <skvidal> as nirik said - it took a fair amount of poking for us to figure out where it was broken
18:29:09 <mdomsch> sqlobject caching, python threading, conspired to make me split out the mirrorlist_server into its own cache, separate from the database
18:29:24 <mdomsch> and yes, almost no logging
18:29:44 <skvidal> I guess what I would like to see happen is this
18:29:55 <skvidal> could we force some bad data into the db
18:30:02 <skvidal> and see where things go sideways?
18:30:14 <skvidal> b/c as it is we were scrambling to figure out on which system things actually started breaking
18:30:23 <nirik> we could do that in stg?
18:30:29 <mdomsch> sure...
18:30:55 <nirik> in our copious spare time. ;)
18:30:57 <mdomsch> wouldn't need a whole lot of entries
18:31:25 <mdomsch> I've been doing my MM 1.4 work lately in a private instance that I hope to make front linux.dell.com for its few mirrors
18:31:39 <mdomsch> it's been handy for finding bugs, but it's not a full fuzzing approach
18:32:49 <mdomsch> and yes, exposing the tracebacks somehow, instead of eating them, would be useful for debugging
18:33:00 * nirik nods.
18:33:06 <nirik> ok, anything else, or shall we call it a meeting?
18:33:59 <mdomsch> call it
18:35:11 <smooge> hit the button nirik-frank
18:36:09 <nirik> #endmeeting
Hey folks,
As always, thanks for attending FUDCon KL Planning Meeting (2012-04-26).
Following is the meeting summary;
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-planning/2012-04-26/fudcon_kl_2012.…
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-planning/2012-04-26/fudcon_kl_2012.…
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#fudcon-planning Meeting
========================
Meeting started by KageSenshi at 14:06:46 UTC. The full logs are
available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fudcon-planning/2012-04-26/fudcon_kl_2012.…
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* roll call (KageSenshi, 14:06:51)
* announcements (KageSenshi, 14:07:12)
* KageSenshi is still waiting for cash from harish in order to proceed
with producing swags/banners/lanyards (KageSenshi, 14:07:37)
* harish is still working on the hotel booking (KageSenshi, 14:07:50)
* we have less than 4 weeks left to FUDCon KL :D (KageSenshi,
14:08:12)
* ACTION: KageSenshi or sniffit will be sending mass email to
registered participant tomorrow , to keep the buzz alive
(KageSenshi, 14:09:06)
* those who are going to FUDCon KL, do post this up in your Blog/FB/G+
wall http://fedora.my/events/fudconkl2012/docs/going-to-fudconkl.png
(KageSenshi, 14:09:51)
* questions/decisions (KageSenshi, 14:10:11)
* ACTION: MavJS to check up with gurdip on goodie bag status, latest
by 4th of May (KageSenshi, 14:12:27)
* ACTION: MavJS to check up with gurdip on bus payment, whether there
need to be deposit or something (KageSenshi, 14:12:56)
* ACTION: KageSenshi to keep on buzzing harish for cash for swag
(KageSenshi, 14:13:09)
* swags need at most 2 weeks to produce, but it'll be good if we can
get early .. (KageSenshi, 14:13:27)
* harish will be sending the cash needed on friday apr27 (KageSenshi,
14:27:21)
* ACTION: KageSenshi to see whether the printing shops are open on
this saturday and start printing a.s.a.p after cashing out
(KageSenshi, 14:27:55)
* open floor (KageSenshi, 14:33:27)
* keep the buzz alive, twit/post/blog/etc about fudcon :D
(KageSenshi, 14:33:59)
* next vlnt physical meeting will be on monday night at UCTI/APIIT
instead of tuesday night (KageSenshi, 14:34:41)
Meeting ended at 14:36:28 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* KageSenshi or sniffit will be sending mass email to registered
participant tomorrow , to keep the buzz alive
* MavJS to check up with gurdip on goodie bag status, latest by 4th of
May
* MavJS to check up with gurdip on bus payment, whether there need to be
deposit or something
* KageSenshi to keep on buzzing harish for cash for swag
* KageSenshi to see whether the printing shops are open on this saturday
and start printing a.s.a.p after cashing out
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* KageSenshi
* KageSenshi or sniffit will be sending mass email to registered
participant tomorrow , to keep the buzz alive
* KageSenshi to keep on buzzing harish for cash for swag
* KageSenshi to see whether the printing shops are open on this
saturday and start printing a.s.a.p after cashing out
* MavJS
* MavJS to check up with gurdip on goodie bag status, latest by 4th of
May
* MavJS to check up with gurdip on bus payment, whether there need to
be deposit or something
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* KageSenshi (86)
* rbergeron (28)
* MavJS (23)
* zodbot (9)
* meng (5)
* FranciscoD (2)
* azneita (2)
* TYSSeries (1)
* jurank_dankkal (1)
* vinz007 (1)
--
Kind Regards,
Maverick
MavJS @ freenode.nethttps://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Mavjshttp://mavjs.github.com
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#fedora-meeting: i18n
=====================
Meeting started by tagoh at 05:01:39 UTC. The full logs are available at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-26/i18n.2012-04-26-…
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* agenda and roll call (tagoh, 05:01:49)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2012-04-26
(tagoh, 05:01:58)
* F17 (tagoh, 05:06:28)
* LINK: https://www.transifex.net/projects/p/fonts-tweak-tool/ (jni,
05:16:15)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658325
(fujiwarat, 05:30:27)
* LINK:
http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=ibus.git;a=blob_plain;f=ibus-xx-g-s…
(fujiwarat, 05:36:59)
* F18 (tagoh, 05:43:44)
* Input Methods (tagoh, 05:46:21)
* ACTION: fujiwarat to file a bug for xdg base dir migration on
ibus-indic-tables and ibus-european-tables (tagoh, 06:00:56)
* Fonts and Rendering (tagoh, 06:01:51)
* Open Floor (tagoh, 06:14:53)
Meeting ended at 06:17:23 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* fujiwarat to file a bug for xdg base dir migration on
ibus-indic-tables and ibus-european-tables
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* fujiwarat
* fujiwarat to file a bug for xdg base dir migration on
ibus-indic-tables and ibus-european-tables
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* tagoh (67)
* fujiwarat (26)
* pravins (24)
* paragan (21)
* juhp (18)
* jni (8)
* anish_ (7)
* zodbot (7)
* dingyichen (1)
* epico_laptop (1)
Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4
.. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot
Minutes:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-25/famsco.2012-04-2…
Minutes (text):
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-25/famsco.2012-04-2…
Log:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-25/famsco.2012-04-2…
Meet you again next week
Wednesday, May 2nd
at 22:00 UTC
in #fedora-meeting!
Regards,
Christoph
==================================
#fedora-meeting: FAmSCo 2012-04-25
==================================
Meeting started by cwickert at 22:00:20 UTC. The full logs are available
at
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-25/famsco.2012-04-2…
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* roll call (cwickert, 22:00:43)
* Zoltan sent regrets, he cannot attend as he is working night shift
(cwickert, 22:01:42)
* kaio is on transit to pet store for food of his my cats and only
connected through his mobile but not really available (cwickert,
22:03:18)
* AGREED: cwickert will be FAmSCo chair (again) (cwickert, 22:11:15)
* FUDCon 2013 bids (cwickert, 22:13:33)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Lawrence_2013
(cwickert, 22:15:09)
* AGREED: FAmSCo supports the FUDCon 2013 Bid for Lawrence (cwickert,
22:24:23)
* New FAmSCo election guidelines (cwickert, 22:25:17)
* AGREED: There will be a FAmSCo election for F18, all seats will be
open. The top 4 vote-getters will serve one year, the bottom three 6
months (cwickert, 22:40:17)
* ACTION: cwickert to update
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FESCo_election_policy (cwickert,
22:48:03)
* ACTION: all FAmSCo members: spread the word about the new FAmSCo
election guidelines (cwickert, 22:48:23)
* we need to hurry up (cwickert, 22:48:35)
* ACTION: cwickert to send inode0 all necessary info for his
announcement (cwickert, 22:48:56)
* AGREED: FAmSCo appreciates the work gbraad has done and will not
remove him from the committee forcefully (cwickert, 22:59:03)
* LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FISL13 (igorps, 22:59:56)
* 13th International Free Software Forum - FISL (cwickert, 23:00:12)
* AGREED: budget for FISL is approved as outlined in the wiki
(cwickert, 23:03:53)
* Reimbursement - shipping costs (cwickert, 23:04:53)
* AGREED: #284 is approved (cwickert, 23:07:30)
* Fedora disks for first half of 2012 (Chile and Argentina) (cwickert,
23:07:50)
* ACTION: yn1v to nag harish about #263 (cwickert, 23:13:45)
* Regulate what regional tracs are needed (cwickert, 23:20:28)
* LINK:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-14/apac.2012-04-14-…
(cwickert, 23:21:41)
* LINK:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-14/apac.2012-04-14-…
(cwickert, 23:21:50)
* LINK:
http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-04-14/apac.2012-04-14-…
(cwickert, 23:22:19)
* all APAC tickets will be handled in
https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac (cwickert, 23:22:53)
* https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-india/ will be discontinued and
read-only (cwickert, 23:23:09)
* Discuss Budget Allocation for FY2012 (cwickert, 23:23:44)
* 2012 budget should be confirmed by May 15th (cwickert, 23:25:05)
* Funding request for the drinks, Release Party F17 Surakarta
(cwickert, 23:25:54)
* AGREED: #278 is approved (cwickert, 23:29:50)
* Open Floor (cwickert, 23:30:10)
* ACTION: yn1v to add the bid for Managua to #288 (cwickert,
23:31:21)
Meeting ended at 23:34:39 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* cwickert to update http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FESCo_election_policy
* all FAmSCo members: spread the word about the new FAmSCo election
guidelines
* cwickert to send inode0 all necessary info for his announcement
* yn1v to nag harish about #263
* yn1v to add the bid for Managua to #288
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* cwickert
* cwickert to update
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FESCo_election_policy
* cwickert to send inode0 all necessary info for his announcement
* inode0
* cwickert to send inode0 all necessary info for his announcement
* yn1v
* yn1v to nag harish about #263
* yn1v to add the bid for Managua to #288
* **UNASSIGNED**
* all FAmSCo members: spread the word about the new FAmSCo election
guidelines