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FAmNA Meeting (23 May 2012)
by inode0 22 May '12

22 May '12

====================== #fedora-meeting: FAmNA ====================== Meeting started by inode0 at 01:00:04 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-23/famna.2012-05-23… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (inode0, 01:00:30) * Announcements (inode0, 01:01:34) * Open Floor (inode0, 01:03:22) * ACTION: nb needs shipping addresses to send case badges to (nb, 01:18:18) * ACTION: graphite6 will get the Miracle buttons to SELF by land or sea or acts of craziness :D (graphite6, 01:19:25) * LINK: http://www.jboss.org/as7 (VICODAN, 01:45:23) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Summit_2012 (graphite6, 01:54:22) Meeting ended at 02:00:02 UTC. Action Items ------------ * nb needs shipping addresses to send case badges to * graphite6 will get the Miracle buttons to SELF by land or sea or acts of craziness :D Action Items, by person ----------------------- * graphite6 * graphite6 will get the Miracle buttons to SELF by land or sea or acts of craziness :D * nb * nb needs shipping addresses to send case badges to * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * rbergeron (83) * inode0 (77) * VICODAN (66) * nb (65) * graphite6 (45) * j_dulaney (37) * chanchito (27) * kk4ewt (21) * MarkDude (18) * award3535 (15) * suehle (10) * zodbot (4) * Sonar_Gal (3) * ianweller (2) * j_dulaney_ (1) John

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Docs meeting summary -- 21 May 2012
by Ben Cotton 21 May '12

21 May '12

Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (bcotton, 14:00:49) * Follow up on last week's action items (bcotton, 14:03:43) * Schedule slip (bcotton, 14:04:09) * GA is now May 29 (bcotton, 14:04:15) * the published RN and Docs schedules do not yet reflect this change (bcotton, 14:04:30) * Release Notes (bcotton, 14:07:01) * AGREED: Release Notes rpm changelogs will drop changes older than N-2 (bcotton, 14:16:11) * Guide Status (bcotton, 14:16:55) * Guide owners shoudl coordinate with pkovar and shaiton to clean up lang codes before GA (bcotton, 14:18:37) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Setting_up_a_document_with_Transifex#Step_5:… (bcotton, 14:20:30) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816765 (bcotton, 14:21:19) * Open Help Conference (bcotton, 14:29:09) * LINK: http://openhelpconference.com (bcotton, 14:29:15) * Open Help Conference is Aug 11-15 in Cincinnati, OH (bcotton, 14:29:21) * FUDcon KL report (bcotton, 14:42:18) * comments welcome on Live Docs screencast (bcotton, 14:47:54) * LINK: www.fedorareloaded.com/index.html (bcotton, 14:48:01) * LINK: http://kushal.fedorapeople.org/book/ (jwulf, 14:48:35) * Open floor discussion (bcotton, 14:55:23) Meeting ended at 14:57:16 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * bcotton (44) * jwulf (39) * jjmcd (35) * pkovar (13) * claneys (7) * jsmith (6) * randomuser (5) * lnovich (4) * zodbot (3) * jwulf_ (2) * Capesteve (2) * Sparks (1) * jhradilek (1) Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-21/fedora_docs.2012… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-21/fedora_docs.2012… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-21/fedora_docs.2012… -- Ben Cotton Fedora Docs Leader

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Re: [Test-Announce] 2012-05-18 @ 17:00 UTC - F17 Final Blocker Bug Review #6
by Tim Flink 18 May '12

18 May '12

====================================================== #fedora-bugzappers: f17-final-blocker-review-meeting-6 ====================================================== Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-05-18/f17-final-blo… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-05-18/f17-final-blo… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-05-18/f17-final-blo… Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (tflink, 17:02:39) * Introduction (tflink, 17:15:05) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (tflink, 17:15:19) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (tflink, 17:15:44) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers (tflink, 17:15:52) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Final_Release_Criteria (tflink, 17:16:06) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Beta_Release_Criteria (tflink, 17:16:06) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Alpha_Release_Criteria (tflink, 17:16:07) * 1 proposed blocker (tflink, 17:16:55) * 4 accepted blockers (tflink, 17:16:55) * 7 proposed NTH (tflink, 17:16:55) * (822981) binutils 2.22.52.0.1 miscompiles the kernel (tflink, 17:17:03) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=822981 (tflink, 17:17:03) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:17:03) * this bug was just filed. impact and details are not clear yet, will revisit when more info is available (tflink, 17:34:07) * (794927) PackageKit cannot import GPG keys - Fatal error: GDBus.Error:org.gtk.GDBus.UnmappedGError.Quark._pk_5ftransaction_5ferror.Code14: Invalid input passed to daemon: char '<' in text! (tflink, 17:36:24) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=794927 (tflink, 17:36:28) * Accepted Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:36:31) * new PK builds are in RC2, this needs testing and verification so we can determine whether or not it is fixed (tflink, 17:37:38) * (821077) Firstboot window does not fit the screen after install from F17 TC4 Final KDE Live (tflink, 17:38:35) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=821077 (tflink, 17:38:38) * Accepted Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 17:38:40) * the new firstboot build is in RC2, this needs testing and verification so we can determine whether or not it is fixed (tflink, 17:39:58) * (822123) Graphical grub is unusable slow (tflink, 17:40:23) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=822123 (tflink, 17:40:23) * Accepted Blocker, ON_QA (tflink, 17:40:23) * new anaconda build is part of RC2 - this needs more testing and verification to determine whether or not it can be closed (tflink, 17:40:50) * (822495) Fedora 17 DVD build does not contain device-mapper-multipath (tflink, 17:41:16) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=822495 (tflink, 17:41:19) * Accepted Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:41:22) * spin-kickstarts and comps were changed for RC2 - this needs to be tested to determine whether or not it can be fixed (tflink, 17:41:50) * a new spin-kickstarts build will be needed before release if the changes are accepted (tflink, 17:42:19) * (821957) Missing Requires(post) on grep and coreutils (tflink, 17:44:56) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=821957 (tflink, 17:44:56) * Proposed NTH, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:44:57) * AGREED: - 821957 - RejectedNTH - This claims to be harmless error messages and could possibly result in temporary issues with building a font cache and slowing down font rendering. While unfortunate, does not seem critical and thus rejected as NTH (tflink, 17:55:47) * (820751) F17 gcc miscompiles lilypond (tflink, 17:55:56) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=820751 (tflink, 17:55:57) * Proposed NTH, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:55:57) * AGREED: - 820751 - AcceptedNTH - This could cause problems with c++ compilation with the gcc as released on DVDs (tflink, 18:00:22) * (816554) Keyboard layout does not correspond with default layout selected during installation (F17 TC1) (tflink, 18:01:15) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816554 (tflink, 18:01:18) * Proposed NTH, NEW (tflink, 18:01:20) * AGREED: - 816554 - AcceptedNTH - This is very annoying for users with non-us keyboards, at the very least. Accepted as NTH and proposed as a blocker - will re-visit after determining the number of affected users and exactly what is going on (tflink, 18:15:22) * (822241) filesystem flushing notifications show up when ejecting read-only optical media (tflink, 18:17:39) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=822241 (tflink, 18:17:42) * Proposed NTH, ON_QA (tflink, 18:17:45) * AGREED: - 822241 - RejectedNTH - While this looks bad, it is mostly an annoyance and users are unlikely to hit this using livemedia - could easily fix this with an update. (tflink, 18:22:27) * (820748) system-config-kickstart is broken (tflink, 18:22:37) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=820748 (tflink, 18:22:37) * Proposed NTH, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:22:37) * AGREED: - 820748 - RejectedNTH - The affected package is not included on the DVD and thus can be easily fixed by an update (tflink, 18:25:38) * (815413) Preupgrade from F16 to F17 Beta does not regenerate pam.d/system-auth*, causing systemd-loginctl not to know about user sessions, breaking PulseAudio (tflink, 18:26:22) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=815413 (tflink, 18:26:25) * Proposed NTH, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:26:28) * AGREED: - 815413 - RejectedNTH - The bug in question should affect few users and there are questions about whether or not the proposed fix would actually fix upgrades, anyways. (tflink, 18:39:33) * (822430) PK is stuck after installing a single update (tflink, 18:40:14) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=822430 (tflink, 18:40:14) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:40:15) * AGREED: - 822430 - RejectedBlocker - This sounds like it could be a problem, but there is only 1 reporter and no debug information. For now, at least, it is not a release blocking issue. (tflink, 18:47:29) * open floor (tflink, 18:47:49) * (822981) binutils 2.22.52.0.1 miscompiles the kernel (tflink, 18:50:06) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=822981 (tflink, 18:50:06) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:50:06) * AGREED: - 822981 - RejectedBlocker - The only way that a user could hit this on a configuration supported by Fedora is using kdump with a 32-bit kernel or using odd hardware. As such, it can be fixed with an update and not a blocker (tflink, 18:58:35) * (820351) It's possible not to get a kernel from the new release when doing an upgrade (tflink, 18:58:53) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=820351 (tflink, 18:58:56) * Accepted NTH, NEW (tflink, 18:58:59) * ACTION: tflink to test F15 to F16 preupgrade to verify that preupgrade uses updates repo (tflink, 19:08:31) * open floor (tflink, 19:08:51) * LINK: http://imgur.com/LZxJ9 (kparal, 19:17:01) * next blocker review meeting would be 2012-05-25 @ 17:00 UTC (hopefully not needed) (tflink, 19:31:59) * (816554) Keyboard layout does not correspond with default layout selected during installation (F17 TC1) (tflink, 19:41:08) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816554 (tflink, 19:41:11) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:41:21) * AGREED: - 816554 - RejectedBlocker - While nasty, there is no feasible fix within the time left before F17 GA and there is a reasonable workaround (select correct keyboard layout from GDM menu). F16 was released with this bug and the sky hasn't fallen yet (tflink, 19:43:43) * should be added as a commonbug (tflink, 19:44:12) * open floor (take 3) (tflink, 19:46:18) Meeting ended at 19:47:50 UTC. Action Items ------------ * tflink to test F15 to F16 preupgrade to verify that preupgrade uses updates repo Action Items, by person ----------------------- * tflink * tflink to test F15 to F16 preupgrade to verify that preupgrade uses updates repo * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tflink (234) * adamw (152) * kparal (78) * cpuobsessed (34) * l0ft1369 (34) * pjones (28) * drago01 (27) * buggbot (18) * jwb (13) * zodbot (10) * nirik (6) * brunowolff (6) * bcl (2) * satellit_Tris55R (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2012-05-17 at 18UTC)
by Kevin Fenzi 17 May '12

17 May '12

============================================ #fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2012-05-17) ============================================ Meeting started by nirik at 17:59:59 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-17/infrastructure.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Robot Roll Call (nirik, 18:00:00) * New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. (nirik, 18:04:01) * two factor auth status (nirik, 18:09:22) * two factor auth status (nirik, 18:11:14) * work is moving forward, hopefully something available to test out soon. (nirik, 18:12:18) * Applications status / discussion (nirik, 18:14:08) * fedmsg is waiting on some rhel bugs, working to seperate TG/moksha to avoid this moving forward. (nirik, 18:17:02) * ctria has some prelim work on a nagios config generator, will send info to the list. (nirik, 18:17:21) * relrod is working on a flask app for fedorahosted requests. https://github.com/codeblock/fedorahosted (nirik, 18:17:52) * Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 18:26:49) * 2012-05-08 to 2012-05-22 FINAL FREEZE (nirik, 18:27:18) * 2012-05-22 - F17 release (nirik, 18:27:19) * 2012-06-01 - nag fi-apprentices. (nirik, 18:27:19) * 2011-06-03 - gitweb-cache removal day. (nirik, 18:27:19) * 2012-06-08 OOW: osuosl01.fedoraproject.org (nirik, 18:27:19) * 2012-06-17 OOW: sign-vault02.phx2.fedoraproject.org (nirik, 18:27:19) * 2012-06-21 to 2012-07-04 Kevin is off on trains and boats. (nirik, 18:27:21) * Open Floor (nirik, 18:33:24) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14 <--- is it possible that there are a couple of bugs there that are closed' (marcdeop, 18:34:17) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3212 <-- I checked this bug and the solution provided by jacibato seemed fine for me (marcdeop, 18:35:00) Meeting ended at 18:41:22 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (96) * skvidal (18) * _fcami_ (14) * abadger1999 (10) * marcdeop (9) * ianweller (8) * ctria (8) * smooge (7) * cuppsy (4) * zodbot (4) * threebean (4) * relrod (4) * jsmith (2) * herlo (1) * lmacken (0) * ricky (0) * mdomsch (0) * dgilmore (0) * CodeBlock (0) -- 17:59:59 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2012-05-17) 17:59:59 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu May 17 17:59:59 2012 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 17:59:59 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 18:00:00 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure 18:00:00 <nirik> #topic Robot Roll Call 18:00:00 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal CodeBlock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean 18:00:00 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 18:00:00 <zodbot> Current chairs: CodeBlock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge threebean 18:00:04 * skvidal ishere 18:00:42 * ctria here 18:00:43 <nirik> hey skvidal 18:01:10 * abadger1999 here 18:01:18 <smooge> Here 18:01:19 * jsmith lurks 18:01:32 <smooge> turkey lurkey 18:02:38 * nirik will wait another min for folks to wander in 18:02:57 <ctria> i think its a public holiday in some countries today... 18:02:58 <skvidal> due to cable guy this morning 18:03:03 <skvidal> I am incredibly tired today 18:03:07 <skvidal> so if i'm slow to reply - that's why 18:03:14 <nirik> ctria: oh? 18:03:32 <ctria> (so maybe people are off today) 18:03:42 <threebean> me is here! 18:03:43 * herlo is here 18:03:52 <nirik> ok, lets get this party started then... 18:03:53 <threebean> doh. 18:04:01 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks. 18:04:01 <nirik> If any new folks want to give a quick one line bio or any apprentices 18:04:01 <nirik> would like to ask general questions, they can do so here. 18:04:14 <nirik> any new folks or apprentice questions? 18:04:32 <cuppsy> <-- Matthew Cupps. Signed up awhile ago, but finaly wanna able to start trying to get involved this past week. 18:04:56 <cuppsy> wanna=was* 18:05:02 <nirik> welcome! are you interested more in the sysadmin side of things? or application development type work? 18:05:23 * ianweller here 18:05:32 <cuppsy> More sysadmin. I have to go look it up, there was someone in #fedora-admin that spoke to me at length the other night and gave me some nice pointers to get started. 18:05:35 * _fcami_ here 18:05:56 <nirik> cuppsy: great. We can get you pointed in the right direction in #fedora-admin after the meeting... 18:05:59 <nirik> hey _fcami_ 18:06:05 <cuppsy> Feel like a jerk that I can remember his/her name. :P But anyways, thanks. :) 18:06:06 <_fcami_> nirik, I told you I would be back. :P 18:06:25 <nirik> _fcami_: glad to hear it. :) 18:07:15 <nirik> ok, any other new folks or apprentice questions? if not, will move on... 18:07:33 <_fcami_> I'll have a look at the current request list 18:07:36 <_fcami_> and find a task to hack on 18:07:49 * relrod here, sorry. 18:07:50 <nirik> _fcami_: sounds good. Can re-add you to the apprentice group after the meeting if you like. 18:07:56 <nirik> welcome relrod 18:07:58 <_fcami_> nirik, yes please. 18:08:10 * marcdeop is sorry to be late 18:08:22 <nirik> marcdeop: no worries. 18:08:38 <_fcami_> I'm away from home most weeks, but I sometimes have good internet access to work on fedora stuff 18:08:41 <_fcami_> so there. 18:08:52 <nirik> lots of traveling? 18:08:55 <_fcami_> yes. 18:09:06 <_fcami_> I'm in Newcastle, UK, atm 18:09:15 <nirik> cool. 18:09:20 <nirik> ok, moving along... 18:09:22 <nirik> #topic two factor auth status 18:09:32 <nirik> any news this week on this? 18:09:46 <_fcami_> is there a page for this I could read? I'll look it up 18:10:02 <skvidal> nirik: nope - not anything new - ust from last week 18:10:21 <nirik> _fcami_: yeah, I think we had something, can dig around for it. 18:10:23 <skvidal> mricon added the ability to store the otp seeds encrypted with the pin 18:10:44 <skvidal> I need to check in on wolfkit to see if he was able to commit all of his changes 18:10:59 <skvidal> to the pam_url repo 18:11:03 <nirik> basically we are going to be using pam_url and a python cgi. The cgi can then deal with googleauth or yubikey or other stuff. Making this very flexable 18:11:14 <nirik> #topic two factor auth status 18:11:20 <nirik> pesky freenode. ;) 18:12:18 <nirik> #info work is moving forward, hopefully something available to test out soon. 18:12:34 <nirik> ok, anything else, or shall I move on... 18:12:49 <skvidal> am I here? 18:12:51 <skvidal> my network just went away 18:12:56 <nirik> yeah. 18:13:03 <skvidal> did you see what I said last? 18:13:05 <skvidal> I said 18:13:11 <nirik> at least you are in the same reality bubble/irc as I now. ;) 18:13:15 <skvidal> I need to check with wolfkit if he was about to commit all his patches 18:13:37 <nirik> right, ok 18:14:00 <nirik> moving along then... 18:14:08 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion 18:14:27 <nirik> any application news abadger1999 / lmacken / threebean / relrod / pingou / whoever else. 18:15:07 <threebean> fedmsg is still hung up on some TG related rhel bugs. 18:15:18 <nirik> I know lmacken was working on finishing up packager/tagger deployment in production 18:15:20 <threebean> I'm separating moksha and TG so it won't be an issue anymore (faster than waiting on rhel bugs) 18:15:31 <ctria> i don't know if it fits here� as i told you at fedora-noc i did some progress with nagios configuration based on infra-hosts 18:15:56 <relrod> I've started on a python-flask web app to automate Fedora Hosted requests. I'll have more details next week, but the gist of it is: simple web app that people request a Fedora Hosted project, simple CLI app that interfaces with it to process the requests (something like `fedorahosted-process --id=1` to process the first one). The whole thing is meant to be really simple (Flask is cool, btw. Check it out if you want a really simple ... 18:16:02 <relrod> ... way to make Python web apps). Making good progress though. Ironically I have the code on github for now just because I wanted to opensource it quickly: https://github.com/codeblock/fedorahosted - Will move it to Hosted next week. 18:16:04 <ctria> i'll migrate it to python and shoot the list with questions probably during weekend 18:16:05 <nirik> ctria: oh yeah. would love to see your progress... perhaps a mailing list post? or we could look more in noc? 18:16:07 <relrod> ok that was longer than I thought. 18:16:33 <nirik> ctria: great. 18:17:02 <nirik> #info fedmsg is waiting on some rhel bugs, working to seperate TG/moksha to avoid this moving forward. 18:17:21 <nirik> #info ctria has some prelim work on a nagios config generator, will send info to the list. 18:17:52 <nirik> #info relrod is working on a flask app for fedorahosted requests. https://github.com/codeblock/fedorahosted 18:17:52 <nirik> anything else? 18:17:55 <nirik> any news on the mailman 3 stuff? 18:19:06 <abadger1999> Our GSoC student will start soon 18:19:15 <nirik> hey abadger1999 18:19:30 <abadger1999> pingou's been working on abstracting the storage from the web ui -- he's going to start testing postgres vs mongo 18:19:45 <abadger1999> we have a suspicion that postgres won't be fast enough but htis will let us prove that. 18:20:00 <nirik> ok. 18:20:07 <abadger1999> (I know sysadmins everywhere would like it if we didn't force another type of database server on them) 18:20:13 <ianweller> (what's the db for?) 18:20:46 <abadger1999> ianweller: web interface to archives -- search is what I think will be too slow with a rdbms 18:21:01 <abadger1999> (mailing list archives) 18:21:04 <nirik> as a side note to application developers... you may want to look at and/or chime in on the epel-devel list. We found out that we were shipping things that are in some RHEL channels, and may have to stop doing that. It could be nasty. We are still in gathering data phase/collecting ideas for solutions. 18:21:05 <ianweller> ok. 18:21:19 <ianweller> nirik: haha whoops. 18:21:44 <abadger1999> nirik: will that also mean we will pull in the RHEL packages to our builders? 18:21:54 <nirik> abadger1999: not sure yet... 18:22:07 <abadger1999> k 18:22:12 * abadger1999 will catch up on that thread 18:22:16 <nirik> the example was glusterfs, but there's other stuff now too... like... puppet. ;) 18:22:31 * skvidal stabs himself 18:22:50 <nirik> and a bunch of python packages that could affect things, etc 18:23:00 <_fcami_> is puppet in an official rhel channel? 18:23:17 <nirik> yep. 18:23:26 <ctria> but are they also in binary compat distros? (Centos, SL ...) 18:23:27 <_fcami_> ok. I'll have to look for it. thx 18:23:34 <ianweller> is there a simple... list we can look at? 18:24:08 <nirik> well, EPEL says they won't ship stuff thats available as SRPMS on the ftp mirror under 6* directories. 18:24:23 <nirik> when EPEL6 launched last year the base os and optional were the only things there. 18:24:48 <smooge> it is not going to be pretty 18:24:55 <ianweller> siiiigh 18:25:11 <nirik> yeah, likely not, but we can look at solutions... please see epel-devel for more details. 18:25:12 <smooge> I need to find a way if i have a list of "blocked" src.rpms what children would also be blocked 18:25:54 <nirik> anyhow, just a heads up on that fun. :) 18:25:57 <_fcami_> smooge, I think QA's autotesting stuff can tell you if there are missing dependencies - but I'm not sure if that runs for EPEL 18:26:48 <nirik> ok, moving on... 18:26:49 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items 18:27:02 <nirik> the go/no-go meeting is still ongoing in #fedora-meeting-1. 18:27:12 <nirik> Assuming we are go, the upcoming tasks look like: 18:27:18 <nirik> #info 2012-05-08 to 2012-05-22 FINAL FREEZE 18:27:19 <nirik> #info 2012-05-22 - F17 release 18:27:19 <nirik> #info 2012-06-01 - nag fi-apprentices. 18:27:19 <nirik> #info 2011-06-03 - gitweb-cache removal day. 18:27:19 <nirik> #info 2012-06-08 OOW: osuosl01.fedoraproject.org 18:27:19 <nirik> #info 2012-06-17 OOW: sign-vault02.phx2.fedoraproject.org 18:27:21 <nirik> #info 2012-06-21 to 2012-07-04 Kevin is off on trains and boats. 18:27:31 <nirik> otherwise, push the top two out a week. ;) 18:27:42 <smooge> ooooh where are you going to be 18:28:19 <nirik> yeah, I am taking a trip at the end of june... trains to a boat, then train back. ;) 18:28:24 <nirik> I should have some net some of the time. 18:29:02 * skvidal wants to take a trip 18:29:05 <nirik> any other upcoming items folks would like to note or schedule? 18:29:22 <nirik> the train should be an adventure. ;) 18:30:01 <nirik> oh, a few days after release (whenever that is) we should schedule a mass upgrade day... and possibly do reboots just to get back into the swing of doing them 18:30:08 <smooge> yeah 18:30:34 * marcdeop is going in a motorbike trip this weekend :P 18:31:16 <nirik> and we should look at scheduling the mailing lists move from redhat.com and the mailing lists move from hosted to hosted-lists sometime soon. 18:31:26 <nirik> (anytime after release that sounds good is fine with me) 18:31:29 <skvidal> +1 18:31:44 <skvidal> I don't think hurrying up the hosted migration before the release helps us 18:32:15 * skvidal wonders if he is in the right irc bubble 18:32:37 <nirik> yeah 18:32:50 <nirik> we could do it anytime really, but don't want to disrupt anything... 18:33:21 <nirik> ok, moving along then... 18:33:24 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 18:33:30 <nirik> anyone have open floor items? 18:33:41 <smooge> not i. 18:33:46 <marcdeop> me 18:33:52 <marcdeop> it's more like a question 18:34:04 <nirik> marcdeop: sure, fire away 18:34:17 <marcdeop> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/14 <--- is it possible that there are a couple of bugs there that are closed' 18:34:50 <nirik> no, but various of them are in process/being worked on by someone. 18:35:00 <marcdeop> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/3212 <-- I checked this bug and the solution provided by jacibato seemed fine for me 18:35:03 <nirik> I'll make a pass thru them to make sure they are all still needed/being worked on 18:35:18 <nirik> yeah, I haven't had a chance to apply that yet due to our freeze. 18:35:26 <ianweller> if you are planning on going to fudcon lawrence, you should pre-register: http://fudconlawrence-ianweller.rhcloud.com/ 18:36:02 <marcdeop> well... and now for the newbie part... do you guys have any more junior jobs to add to that list? 18:36:22 <nirik> marcdeop: I can try and dream up some more, yeah. I keep meaning to. ;) 18:36:39 <nirik> or if anyone else thinks of good easyfix tickets, please do file them. 18:36:48 <marcdeop> no prob nirik, it's just that sometimes I get "overloaded" with information 18:36:57 <marcdeop> junior jobs help to focus on small things at a time 18:37:17 <nirik> yeah, some of those tickets have a lot of comments and it does get confusing... 18:37:23 <nirik> I will try and add some more. 18:37:29 <ctria> :) 18:37:43 <ctria> comments or tickets? 18:38:44 <nirik> either! :) 18:38:54 * _fcami_ votes for both :) 18:39:43 <ianweller> also looks like we are no-go for release next week 18:39:51 <nirik> yep. ;( 18:39:59 <nirik> so another week of freeze. 18:40:22 <nirik> any other items? or shall we call it a meeting? 18:40:58 * nirik listens to the crickets. 18:41:11 * jsmith has nothing to add 18:41:14 <nirik> ok, lets all continue over on #fedora-admin, #fedora-apps or #fedora-noc 18:41:20 <nirik> Thanks for coming everyone! 18:41:22 <nirik> #endmeeting

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i18n meeting summary (2012-05-17)
by Akira TAGOH 17 May '12

17 May '12

===================== #fedora-meeting: i18n ===================== Meeting started by tagoh at 05:02:01 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-17/i18n.2012-05-17-… . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda and roll call (tagoh, 05:02:12) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2012-05-17 (tagoh, 05:02:21) * F17 (tagoh, 05:06:04) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5187 (pravins, 05:16:20) * F18 (tagoh, 05:31:57) * LINK: http://www.freetype.org/ttfautohint/ (epico_laptop, 05:37:11) * Input Methods (tagoh, 05:42:17) * Fonts and Rendering (tagoh, 05:50:33) * Open Floor (tagoh, 06:01:23) Meeting ended at 06:27:45 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tagoh (71) * dan408 (43) * juhp (39) * pravins (14) * epico_laptop (8) * zodbot (4) * paragan (4) * anish_ (2) * dueno (1) * jni (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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EMEA Ambassadors meeting 2012-05-16 minutes
by Jiri Eischmann 16 May '12

16 May '12

Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-16/emea_ambassadors… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-16/emea_ambassadors… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-16/emea_ambassadors… Meet you again next week Wednesday, May 30th at 20:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting! Jiří Eischmann ============================================ #fedora-meeting: EMEA Ambassadors 2012-05-16 ============================================ Meeting started by sesivany_ at 20:09:07 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-16/emea_ambassadors… . Meeting summary --------------- * Announcements (sesivany_, 20:12:14) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections (sesivany_, 20:15:47) * Ambassadors Schedule (sesivany_, 20:17:18) * Events (sesivany_, 20:24:41) * if you're planning to organize a release party, add it to the list: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F17_release_events (sesivany_, 20:30:13) * CfP for FrOSCon closes next week, submit your talk soon, if you want to have a special for Fedora tell cwickert or gnokii (sesivany_, 20:33:02) * if you're going to LinuxTag and want to get a free ticket, ask gnokii, he might get one for you. (sesivany_, 20:36:14) * EMEA F17 media production (sesivany_, 20:38:46) * if you want to get F17 media, file a ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ and assign it to eischmann. Don't forget to include your phone number (besides address)! (sesivany_, 20:43:39) * Action items from previous meetings (sesivany_, 20:47:14) * ACTION: cwickert to figure out how/when we can get the final images (sesivany_, 20:49:30) * ACTION: cwickert to create a wiki page for FrOSCon (sesivany_, 20:50:57) * ACTION: giallu to create a wiki page for EuroPython (sesivany_, 20:56:24) * ACTION: rbergeron to ship case badges and stickers to Sesivany at the Brno office (sesivany_, 20:58:48) * LINK: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/ambassadors/2012-May/019559.html (shaiton_, 21:01:28) * ACTION: jreznik will ask the vendor for quotes on tablecloth (2-5 pieces). (sesivany_, 21:05:53) * ACTION: everybody try to figure out if there is a kind of "prepaid card" for your local postal service (sesivany_, 21:28:04) * ACTION: sesivany will create a wiki page to gather info on prepaid cards in emea (sesivany_, 21:28:41) * Open Floor (sesivany_, 21:29:52) * LINK: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/fudcon-planning/2012-May/003640.ht… (shaiton_, 21:35:45) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_meeting_channel (gholms, 21:51:45) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EMEA/Africa/Meetings (shaiton_, 21:55:39) Meeting ended at 22:00:59 UTC. Action Items ------------ * cwickert to figure out how/when we can get the final images * cwickert to create a wiki page for FrOSCon * giallu to create a wiki page for EuroPython * rbergeron to ship case badges and stickers to Sesivany at the Brno office * jreznik will ask the vendor for quotes on tablecloth (2-5 pieces). * everybody try to figure out if there is a kind of "prepaid card" for your local postal service * sesivany will create a wiki page to gather info on prepaid cards in emea Action Items, by person ----------------------- * giallu * giallu to create a wiki page for EuroPython * jreznik * jreznik will ask the vendor for quotes on tablecloth (2-5 pieces). * rbergeron * rbergeron to ship case badges and stickers to Sesivany at the Brno office * **UNASSIGNED** * cwickert to figure out how/when we can get the final images * cwickert to create a wiki page for FrOSCon * everybody try to figure out if there is a kind of "prepaid card" for your local postal service * sesivany will create a wiki page to gather info on prepaid cards in emea People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * sesivany_ (139) * shaiton_ (53) * rbergeron (50) * gnokii (23) * giallu (15) * gholms (12) * thunderbirdtr (10) * zodbot (8) * jreznik (8) * nirik (2) * adamw (2) * t2hot (1) * inode0 (1)

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Fedora ARM status meeting minutes 2012-05-16
by Paul Whalen 16 May '12

16 May '12

Good day all, Thanks to those who were able to join us for the weekly status meeting today. For those that were unable, the minutes are posted below: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-05-16/fedora-meeting… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-05-16/fedora-meeting… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2012-05-16/fedora-meeting… Paul

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FAmNA Meeting (16 May 2012)
by inode0 15 May '12

15 May '12

====================== #fedora-meeting: FAmNA ====================== Meeting started by inode0 at 01:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-16/famna.2012-05-16… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (inode0, 01:00:21) * Announcements (inode0, 01:02:06) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_election_2012_F18_nominations (inode0, 01:02:45) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Development/SteeringCommittee/Nominations (inode0, 01:02:56) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/Elections/Nominations (inode0, 01:03:09) * Tickets (inode0, 01:05:33) * #11 (LinuxFest Northwest 2012, Apr 28-29, Bellingham, WA) â€“ FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/11 (inode0, 01:06:16) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxFest_Northwest_%28LFNW%29_2012 (inode0, 01:07:16) * ACTION: inode0 will try to contact LFNW people again about getting reports added to the event page (inode0, 01:11:02) * ACTION: award3535 will try to contact LFNW people again about getting reports added to the event page replacing inode0 :) (inode0, 01:14:24) * #32 (SELF Brainstorming) â€“ FAmNA general trac - https://fedorahosted.org/famna/ticket/32 (inode0, 01:14:57) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/famna/attachment/ticket/32/hotbutton_white.png (graphite6, 01:27:27) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/famna/attachment/ticket/32/hotbutton_green.png (graphite6, 01:27:52) * LINK: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SELF_2012 (kk4ewt, 01:36:03) * LINK: http://www.southeastlinuxfest.org/news/self-2012-preliminary-schedule (suehle_, 01:37:06) * space for barrelconfirmed (kk4ewt, 01:46:45) * ACTION: suehle_ to pursue getting some red hat news piece and possibly matching monies (rbergeron, 01:51:16) * Open Floor (inode0, 01:55:04) * swag (nb, 01:55:25) * AGREED: award3535_ will pay half of his room (nb, 02:04:39) * open floor (nb, 02:04:44) * AGREED: bus and hotel at SELF for j_dulaney (inode0, 02:06:55) Meeting ended at 02:10:32 UTC. Action Items ------------ * inode0 will try to contact LFNW people again about getting reports added to the event page * award3535 will try to contact LFNW people again about getting reports added to the event page replacing inode0 :) * suehle_ to pursue getting some red hat news piece and possibly matching monies Action Items, by person ----------------------- * award3535 * award3535 will try to contact LFNW people again about getting reports added to the event page replacing inode0 :) * inode0 * inode0 will try to contact LFNW people again about getting reports added to the event page * award3535 will try to contact LFNW people again about getting reports added to the event page replacing inode0 :) * suehle_ * suehle_ to pursue getting some red hat news piece and possibly matching monies * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * inode0 (106) * nb (71) * rbergeron (71) * j_dulaney (49) * kk4ewt (37) * graphite6 (36) * award3535_ (20) * suehle_ (12) * herlo (10) * zodbot (10) * award3535 (6) * dan408 (4) * ianweller (1) * chanchito (1) * rsuehle__ (1) John

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Docs meeting summary -- 14 May 2012
by Ben Cotton 15 May '12

15 May '12

Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (bcotton, 14:00:40) * Release Notes (bcotton, 14:03:32) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Notes_schedule (bcotton, 14:03:38) * New RPM -- needs karma (bcotton, 14:04:01) * LINK: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/fedora-release-notes-17.0.1-1.fc17 (jjmcd, 14:04:03) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&classificatio… (jjmcd, 14:06:46) * jjmcd is awesome (bcotton, 14:07:51) * ACTION: bcotton to run a cronjob in the late evening EDT to tx pull and push to f17 (bcotton, 14:15:21) * Guide Status (bcotton, 14:20:19) * LINK: http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-17/f-17-docs-tree-tasks.html (bcotton, 14:20:35) * Capesteve will finish updating the Wireless Guide (bcotton, 14:24:52) * RN location (bcotton, 14:28:02) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=694075 (bcotton, 14:28:16) * AGREED: We decided that we would make a note in the RNs that they will move next release (bcotton, 14:31:59) * Open Help Conference (bcotton, 14:32:07) * LINK: http://openhelpconference.com (bcotton, 14:32:13) * Open Help Conference is Aug 11-15 in Cincinnati, OH (bcotton, 14:32:20) * Outstanding BZ Tickets (bcotton, 14:33:59) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816765 (bcotton, 14:34:33) * Open floor discussion (bcotton, 14:43:58) * comments on http://www.fedorareloaded.com/instructions.html welcome (bcotton, 14:46:01) * Thursday is the Release Readiness meeting. bcotton plans to report "yeah, we're ready" (bcotton, 14:48:04) Meeting ended at 14:56:38 UTC. Action Items ------------ * bcotton to run a cronjob in the late evening EDT to tx pull and push to f17 Action Items, by person ----------------------- * bcotton * bcotton to run a cronjob in the late evening EDT to tx pull and push to f17 * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * bcotton (55) * jjmcd (36) * pkovar (25) * nb (14) * Capesteve (12) * claneys (9) * lnovich (8) * zodbot (4) * suehle (1) * jhradilek (1) Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-14/fedora_docs.2012… Minutes (html): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-14/fedora_docs.2012… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2012-05-14/fedora_docs.2012… -- Ben Cotton Fedora Docs Leader

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Re: [Test-Announce] 2012-05-11 @ 17:00 UTC - F17 Final Blocker Bug Review #5
by Tim Flink 11 May '12

11 May '12

====================================================== #fedora-bugzappers: f17-final-blocker-review-meeting-5 ====================================================== We were able to get through all of the proposed blockers but didn't get to the accepted blockers or proposed NTH. I will be scheduling another review meeting for early next week (probably Monday) to finish going over the remaining bugs. Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-05-11/f17-final-blo… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-05-11/f17-final-blo… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-bugzappers/2012-05-11/f17-final-blo… Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (tflink, 17:04:49) * Introduction (tflink, 17:15:59) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (tflink, 17:16:12) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (tflink, 17:16:32) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers (tflink, 17:16:32) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Final_Release_Criteria (tflink, 17:16:34) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Beta_Release_Criteria (tflink, 17:16:36) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Alpha_Release_Criteria (tflink, 17:16:39) * (821015) Software Update claims all packages are untrusted (tflink, 17:18:28) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=821015 (tflink, 17:18:28) * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:18:28) * AGREED: - 821015 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the F17 alpha release criterion "The installed system must be able to download and install updates with yum and the default graphical package manager in all release-blocking desktops" for systems where the user doesn't have the root password (tflink, 17:26:38) * (819113) abrt-ccpp service not enabled by default on F17 (tflink, 17:26:53) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=819113 (tflink, 17:26:53) * Proposed Blocker, VERIFIED (tflink, 17:26:53) * AGREED: - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - While this doesn't hit any of the release criteria, losing crash reports is not something that we want to be doing and would take a well tested fix (tflink, 17:30:48) * according to the author, this fix has been in F16 stable for some time now (tflink, 17:31:12) * (813548) alsa bug makes kernel kill pulseaudio sometimes (tflink, 17:31:27) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=813548 (tflink, 17:31:27) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:31:27) * AGREED: 813548 - RejectedBlocker - While somewhat ugly, this bug seems to be a corner case that only affects a few users and would be fixable with an update for installed systems. (tflink, 17:37:00) * (816742) Installer in EFI mode needs to use grub2 and allow /boot on LVM (tflink, 17:37:12) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=816742 (tflink, 17:37:15) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:37:17) * AGREED: - 816742 - RejectedBlocker, RejectedNTH - This doesn't hit any of the release criteria - it is well known that grub2-efi is not ready for use. No NTH because it is too late to take grub changes that aren't accepted as blockers (tflink, 17:42:08) * (817037) Installer damage Disks (tflink, 17:42:20) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=817037 (tflink, 17:42:21) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:42:21) * AGREED: - 817037 - RejectedBlocker, RejectedNTH - There is no clear reproducer and it is not clear that this isn't expected behavior (autopart with 'use all space' is supposed to clear off all disks') (tflink, 17:46:50) * (820366) Cannot boot 17 Beta installer: /dev/root does not exist (tflink, 17:47:04) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=820366 (tflink, 17:47:08) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 17:47:10) * AGREED: - 820366 - There is not enough information to decide on whether or not this is actually a blocker - ask for more information and more re-testing of PXE and ks delivery over nfs (tflink, 17:54:06) * (813648) gnome-shell shows blank windows on hardware lacking NPOT textures (tflink, 17:54:21) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=813648 (tflink, 17:54:24) * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:54:26) * AGREED: - 813648 - AcceptedNTH - This is a graphical issue that would affect a minority of users - there is unclear cosensus on whether or not this is enough to be a final blocker (can't fix livecds with an update) but enough for NTH. (tflink, 18:21:39) * (801650) Fedora PV guest 17 fails to boot under Xen (with SandyBridge or newer hardware that do xsave) (tflink, 18:22:01) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=801650 (tflink, 18:22:04) * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:22:08) * AGREED: - 801650 - AcceptedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - Violates the F17 final release criterion "The release must boot successfully as Xen DomU with releases providing a functional, supported Xen Dom0 and widely used cloud providers utilizing Xen. This does not include any issues limited to the release functioning as Xen Dom0" for some newer platforms (tflink, 18:45:12) * (819492) GVfs apps should convey when eject/unmount takes a long time (tflink, 18:46:25) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=819492 (tflink, 18:46:28) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 18:46:31) * AGREED: - 819492 - AcceptedNTH - This is a potentially nasty bug that could lead to user data corruption/loss. Well tested fixes will be considered past freeze but probably not at the last minute. (tflink, 19:06:25) * AGREED: - 819492 - AcceptedBlocker (conditional) - The situation as is has been decided to be a blocker issue but we recognize that a full, proper fix is not practical and would agree to remove blocker status once some work was done to mitigate the poential for users to lose data (tflink, 19:16:17) * cmurf proposed raising this issue with fesco (tflink, 19:18:09) * (811412) F17 Final TC3 has bogus OS X entries in grub2 when installed from dd-written images (tflink, 19:21:02) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=811412 (tflink, 19:21:04) * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 19:21:07) * AGREED: - 811412 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - This doesn't hit any of the release criteria and doesn't seem release critical but it looks bad and could cause confusion. thus a well tested fix would be accepted (tflink, 19:33:08) * (820971) Help -> Content function is broken (tflink, 19:33:22) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=820971 (tflink, 19:33:23) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:33:23) * AGREED: - 820971 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the F17 final release criterion "All applications listed under the Applications menu or category must withstand a basic functionality test and not crash after a few minutes of normal use. They must also have working Help and Help -> About menu items" (tflink, 19:35:25) * (740280) /dev/live no longer exists (tflink, 19:36:14) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=740280 (tflink, 19:36:15) * Proposed Blocker, VERIFIED (tflink, 19:36:15) * AGREED: - 740280 - RejectedBlocker, AcceptedNTH - None of the F17 release requirements mention persistance in live images and thus this isn't a blocker. However, it is a significant feature that we would like to see working before release and a tested fix would be considered for accepting past freeze (tflink, 19:38:54) * (820750) TC4 live install to HD fails on first try - Partition(s) 1 on /dev/sda have been written, but we have been unable to inform the kernel of the change (tflink, 19:38:59) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=820750 (tflink, 19:39:02) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:39:05) * AGREED: - 820750 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the F17 alpha release criterion "The installer must be able to complete an installation using any locally connected storage interface (e.g. PATA, SATA, SCSI etc...) with the default file system " but it's unclear whether spin-kickstarts is the right place to fix this (tflink, 19:46:59) * (815413) Preupgrade from F16 to F17 Beta does not regenerate pam.d/system-auth*, causing systemd-loginctl not to know about user sessions, breaking PulseAudio (tflink, 19:47:35) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=815413 (tflink, 19:47:37) * Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 19:47:40) * AGREED: - 815413 - RejectedBlocker - Given our current understanding; this will affect few upgrades and if it does, the fix is not difficult. The fix needs to be documented but this bug no longer seems like a blocker (tflink, 19:52:58) * the fix for this (re-running authconfig) needs to be documented prior to release (tflink, 19:53:15) * (820973) Help -> Content function is broken (tflink, 19:53:30) * LINK: http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=820973 (tflink, 19:53:30) * Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:53:30) * AGREED: - 820973 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the F17 final release criterion "All applications listed under the Applications menu or category must withstand a basic functionality test and not crash after a few minutes of normal use. They must also have working Help and Help -> About menu items" (tflink, 19:54:53) * (821077) Firstboot window does not fit the screen after install from F17 TC4 Final KDE Live (tflink, 19:59:32) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=821077 (tflink, 19:59:34) * LINK: Proposed Blocker, NEW (tflink, 19:59:37) * AGREED: - 821077 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the F17 alpha release criterion "In most cases (see Blocker_Bug_FAQ), a system installed according to any of the above criteria (or the appropriate Beta or Final criteria, when applying this criterion to those releases) must boot to the 'firstboot' utility on the first boot after installation, without unintended user intervention, unless the user explicitly chooses to boot in non-graphical mode. This in (tflink, 20:02:01) * Open Floor (tflink, 20:03:30) Meeting ended at 20:16:15 UTC. 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