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Fedora Chinese Meeting Minutes (2013-03-29)
by Alick Zhao 29 Mar '13

29 Mar '13

Hi all, The IRC meeting minutes tonight are available at the link [1]. Thanks everyone for attending the meeting. In the meeting we mainly talked about plans for offline gather up in April, FUDCon APAC 2014 bid, FPWiki Zh pages clean up, and L10N status. The next IRC meeting will be held on next Friday (2013-04-05). Please come and join the discussion if you can! Note the beginning time of the meeting has been changed to 21:00(UTC+8). 1. http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-03-29/fedora-zh.2013-03-29-… ============================================= #fedora-zh: Fedora Chinese Meeting 2013-03-29 ============================================= Meeting started by alick at 13:04:31 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-zh/2013-03-29/fedora-zh.2013-03-29-… . Meeting summary --------------- * 点名 (alick, 13:04:56) * 四月线下活动征集 (alick, 13:11:22) * IDEA: 非一线城市可以考虑和当地 LUG 等组织联合活动 (alick, 13:15:04) * IDEA: 考虑办次以 Linux 安全为主题的线下活动 (alick, 13:25:45) * FUDCON APAC 2014 举办申请 (alick, 13:26:27) * LINK: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/chinese/2013-March/012721.html (alick, 13:27:44) * LINK: http://www.weibo.com/lsh511744?from=profile&wvr=5&loc=infdomain (alick, 13:29:28) * ACTION: alick to talk about the deadline of bid proposal in ML (alick, 13:39:05) * FPWiki Zh 页面的整理更新 (alick, 13:44:10) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zh/zh-cn (alick, 13:44:44) * HELP: FPWiki Zh/ 页面需更新 (alick, 13:48:42) * 中文翻译 (alick, 13:49:24) * LINK: https://fedora.transifex.com/projects/p/fedora/r/fedora-main/l/zh_CN/ (alick, 13:55:48) * Fedora 19 软件翻译阶段 2013-03-19 到 2013-04-23 (alick, 13:56:31) Meeting ended at 14:03:13 UTC. Action Items ------------ * alick to talk about the deadline of bid proposal in ML Action Items, by person ----------------------- * alick * alick to talk about the deadline of bid proposal in ML * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * alick (77) * zsun (24) * zodbot (7) * BadGirl (6) * Robin_cheese_Lee (5) * tiansworld (5) * microcai (5) * chengshiding (5) * diseng (3) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot -- Alick Fedora 18 (Spherical Cow) user https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Alick

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i18n meeting summary (2013-03-28)
by Akira TAGOH 28 Mar '13

28 Mar '13

===================== #fedora-meeting: i18n ===================== Meeting started by tagoh_ at 06:03:09 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-03-28/i18n.2013-03-28-… . Meeting summary --------------- * agenda and roll call (tagoh_, 06:03:10) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2013-03-28 (tagoh_, 06:03:10) * Upcoming schedule (tagoh_, 06:09:08) * 2013-04-02 Software String Freeze (tagoh_, 06:09:08) * 2013-04-02 Alpha Change Deadline (tagoh_, 06:09:09) * 2013-04-11 Test_Day:2013-04-11_Translation_(l10n) (tagoh_, 06:09:09) * 2013-04-16 Alpha Release (tagoh_, 06:09:09) * Outstanding topic (tagoh_, 06:14:11) * #16: Improving testcases/matrix for i18n test day (tagoh) (tagoh_, 06:14:11) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/16 (tagoh_, 06:14:11) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-05-02_Localization_(i18n) (tagoh_, 06:15:09) * ACTION: dueno to create a draft test case for ibus-hangul (tagoh_, 06:20:25) * ACTION: epico to create a draft test case for zh-TW (tagoh_, 06:22:20) * #18: F19 i18n docbeats (tagoh) (tagoh_, 06:25:47) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/18 (tagoh_, 06:25:47) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat (tagoh_, 06:25:55) * Open Floor (tagoh_, 06:30:50) * LINK: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/wayland/weston/tree/protocol/input-method.xml (epico, 06:36:05) Meeting ended at 06:43:32 UTC. Action Items ------------ * dueno to create a draft test case for ibus-hangul * epico to create a draft test case for zh-TW Action Items, by person ----------------------- * dueno * dueno to create a draft test case for ibus-hangul * epico * epico to create a draft test case for zh-TW * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tagoh_ (58) * epico (9) * juhp (8) * mfabian (6) * zodbot (4) * dueno (2) * paragan (1) * pravins (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Summary/Minutes from today's Fedora Infrastructure meeting (2013-03-28)
by Kevin Fenzi 28 Mar '13

28 Mar '13

============================================ #fedora-meeting: Infrastructure (2013-03-28) ============================================ Meeting started by nirik at 19:00:00 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-03-28/infrastructure.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * welcome y'all (nirik, 19:00:01) * New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks (nirik, 19:02:16) * LINK: http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/cgit (skvidal, 19:07:03) * Applications status / discussion (nirik, 19:09:01) * LINK: https://github.com/fedora-infra/rube ! (lmacken, 19:09:35) * Sysadmin status / discussion (nirik, 19:27:07) * Private Cloud status update / discussion (nirik, 19:30:38) * Upcoming Tasks/Items (nirik, 19:33:28) * 2013-03-19 to 2013-03-26 - koji update (nirik, 19:33:38) * 2013-03-29 - spring holiday. (nirik, 19:33:38) * 2013-04-02 to 2013-04-16 ALPHA infrastructure freeze (nirik, 19:33:38) * 2013-04-15 - remove legacy-openid (nirik, 19:33:38) * 2013-04-16 F19 alpha release (nirik, 19:33:39) * 2013-05-07 to 2013-05-21 BETA infrastructure freeze (nirik, 19:33:40) * 2013-05-21 F19 beta release (nirik, 19:33:41) * 2013-05-31 end of 1st quarter (nirik, 19:33:42) * 2013-06-11 to 2013-06-25 FINAL infrastructure freeze. (nirik, 19:33:44) * 2013-06-25 F19 FINAL release (nirik, 19:33:46) * Open Floor (nirik, 19:40:47) * 2013-04-04 Send email to folks who have been using legacy-openid to notify about sunset (puiterwijk, 19:40:49) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_FedoraBugzilla (skvidal, 19:51:35) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_FedoraHosted_Version2_Notes (skvidal, 19:51:46) Meeting ended at 20:00:28 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (115) * skvidal (74) * puiterwijk (29) * herlo (22) * abadger1999 (19) * lmacken (15) * threebean (10) * biker (10) * dgilmore (9) * frankly3d (8) * linuxmania (7) * cyberworm54 (5) * zodbot (4) * jerzyr (4) * tflink (2) * kalev (2) * relrod (1) * smooge (1) * fchiulli (1) * ricky (0) * mdomsch (0) * CodeBlock (0) -- 19:00:00 <nirik> #startmeeting Infrastructure (2013-03-28) 19:00:00 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Mar 28 19:00:00 2013 UTC. The chair is nirik. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00:00 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:00:01 <nirik> #meetingname infrastructure 19:00:01 <nirik> #topic welcome y'all 19:00:01 <nirik> #chair smooge skvidal CodeBlock ricky nirik abadger1999 lmacken dgilmore mdomsch threebean 19:00:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure' 19:00:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: CodeBlock abadger1999 dgilmore lmacken mdomsch nirik ricky skvidal smooge threebean 19:00:15 * relrod here, sort of 19:00:16 * puiterwijk is around 19:00:30 * skvidal is here 19:00:43 * lmacken lurking 19:00:49 <frankly3d> here 19:00:55 <fchiulli> fchiulli is listening 19:01:16 <nirik> morning everyone. will wait another min for folks to wander in before starting. 19:01:35 * threebean is here 19:01:49 * herlo is here 19:02:16 <nirik> #topic New folks introductions and Apprentice tasks 19:02:25 <nirik> any new folks? or apprentices with questions? 19:02:35 <frankly3d> How do you know where to go, if looking for freemedia, do you chance hosted0* hosted1* . Looked here but no signpost per say 19:02:51 <frankly3d> Duh: http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/infra/docs/ 19:03:48 * dgilmore is here 19:03:49 <skvidal> frankly3d: go for what? 19:03:52 <nirik> well, depends on for what. ;) 19:03:54 <skvidal> hosted is all on hosted02 19:03:58 <skvidal> (for example) 19:04:13 <frankly3d> The backend for the trac? 19:04:21 <nirik> yeah, that would be on hosted02... 19:04:53 <skvidal> frankly3d: what were you wondering about in trac? 19:04:56 <nirik> it somewhat depends on what you are trying to look at or change... 19:05:10 <frankly3d> trac.ini 19:05:11 <nirik> trac is on there... as well as git repos. 19:05:38 <frankly3d> how large is infra git? 19:05:38 <nirik> frankly3d: would be under /srv/web/trac/projects/ 19:06:00 <nirik> git repos are under /srv/git/ I don't think the infra one is all that big, dunno off hand. 19:06:21 <puiterwijk> most of infra stuff is not actually on hosted though. most is on lockbox in /git 19:06:51 <skvidal> puiterwijk: and the public git repos are available via cgit and git:// 19:07:02 <puiterwijk> skvidal: ah ok 19:07:03 <skvidal> http://infrastructure.fedoraproject.org/cgit 19:07:09 <puiterwijk> yeah, indeed 19:07:13 * herlo lubs cgit 19:07:19 <nirik> frankly3d: does that help? happy to answer more questions in #fedora-admin after the meeting... :) 19:07:22 <puiterwijk> but just wanted to note that hosted02 doesn't contain most infra git repo stuff 19:07:27 <skvidal> I'd love it more if it didn't get its cache hosed from time to time 19:07:41 <frankly3d> Yes, I'll have more when I get lost. 19:07:55 <puiterwijk> skvidal: I have added a cron that fixes that, right? or are there more broken ones? 19:08:02 <nirik> happy to help direct you. Or others will if I'm not around. ;) 19:08:17 <nirik> ok, any other new folks or questions? 19:08:19 <skvidal> puiterwijk: which cron job is this? on hosted or on lockbox? 19:08:28 <puiterwijk> skvidal: on hosted 19:08:34 <skvidal> puiterwijk: sure 19:08:40 <puiterwijk> could move it also to lockbox with your permission/request? 19:08:49 <skvidal> puiterwijk: let's talk about this outside of this meeting 19:08:56 <puiterwijk> sure 19:09:01 <nirik> #topic Applications status / discussion 19:09:10 <nirik> any application news or plans to discuss? 19:09:35 <lmacken> https://github.com/fedora-infra/rube ! 19:09:47 <lmacken> we need help writing more tests 19:09:51 <threebean> :P 19:10:02 <nirik> ah yes, I need to play with that some more. ;) Very nice work tho! 19:10:10 <lmacken> and eventually hooking it up to status.fp.o :) 19:10:46 <nirik> hum, not sure how that would work out... 19:11:34 <nirik> although another thought occurs to me: could we have it send in fedmsg when it runs tests? then we could have something that says "user foo ran rube and saw failed for test bar" and we know to look or retest or ask them if they need help? 19:11:51 <threebean> hm, the original idea was just to run it by hand. but with that x virtual frame buffer stuff we could potentially turn it into a nagios check or something like that 19:12:01 <lmacken> not outside of infra... but if we run it within jenkins, it could potentially fire off messages 19:12:25 <nirik> lots of possibilities. ;) 19:12:40 <lmacken> indeed :) 19:13:14 <nirik> cool. 19:13:21 <threebean> hey, so pingou has been hacking on a new interface to fedora-tagger -> http://blog.pingoured.fr/index.php?post/2013/03/27/GNOME-tagger 19:13:41 <nirik> I'll note that tomorrow is a holiday for many, and next tuesday we enter into alpha freeze, so do look at any changes you would like to get in before then... 19:14:26 <threebean> he (re)wrote the json api in the process and it feels really solid - much more solid than it was. 19:14:29 <nirik> ah ha. Nice! 19:14:42 <abadger1999> I'm going to try to push an alpha of python-fedora to infra... alpha because I'm not satisfied with the api we're trying to implement for otp yet. 19:14:58 <threebean> I'm still playing catch-up to update the existing js frontend to use his api, but it's coming along. 19:15:04 <lmacken> abadger1999: will that have python3 support? :) 19:15:23 <lmacken> threebean, pingou: gnome-tagger looks schweet 19:15:40 <kalev> probably not the best time and place to say this, but ... I have a trivial patch I'd like to get in to Bodhi: https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/708 19:16:00 <abadger1999> lmacken: python3 python-fedora doesn't make much sense right now.... there's too much that it depends on that is python2 only (like TG1) 19:16:11 <nirik> kalev: no worries. :) it's an ok time to chime in... 19:16:13 <abadger1999> lmacken: are you thinking of kitchen? 19:16:19 <lmacken> kalev: cool, I'll have a look at that tonight 19:16:26 <kalev> lmacken: awesome, thanks! 19:16:36 <lmacken> abadger1999: ah yes, kitchen. and python-fedora at some point though 19:16:58 <abadger1999> lmacken: yeah, kitchen: if that worked out for you -- it should still just need documentation updates. 19:17:13 <abadger1999> lmacken: python-fedora.... big lot of other things that need to go python3 first or... 19:17:21 <abadger1999> Port all of our stuff off of TG1 19:18:00 <linuxmania> hi guys 19:18:02 <threebean> on the kitchen->py3 port, I lifted a finger on the docs but didn't get much further: https://github.com/fedora-infra/kitchen/commits/feature/py3-finalize 19:18:02 * lmacken nods 19:18:03 <linuxmania> i am late. 19:18:50 <nirik> linuxmania: no worries. ;) 19:19:07 <linuxmania> nirik, nice to see you again! 19:19:31 <abadger1999> threebean: Cool. 19:19:31 <nirik> ok, any other application news? or shall we move on? 19:19:39 <linuxmania> what are we talking about now? 19:19:50 <abadger1999> threebean: maybe that would be something we could have a vfad about. 19:20:23 <skvidal> abadger1999: given the reply to my email about vfads 19:20:26 <herlo> linuxmania: /topic 19:20:27 <skvidal> abadger1999: I suspect that won't ever happen 19:20:28 <abadger1999> threebean: Really the two things it takes are -- 1) time without outside distractions and 2) people to write the docs and test the advice under python3 19:20:45 * threebean nods 19:21:53 <linuxmania> herlo, thanks i see. 19:22:07 <herlo> :) 19:22:43 <puiterwijk> oh, a last app thing: I split the authentication part from FAS-OpenID, so that it is less strictly tied to FAS, and more pluggable 19:22:55 <puiterwijk> and I am currently working on a BrowserID implementation 19:23:05 <puiterwijk> (for FAS-OpenID) 19:23:17 <nirik> that will be nice I think... 19:23:24 <jerzyr> yes 19:23:27 <nirik> no idea how much traction it will get overall, but nice to support it. 19:23:45 <linuxmania> herlo, so how should I starting reading the code and programming? 19:24:06 <abadger1999> puiterwijk: is browserid the same as mozilla persona or different? 19:24:11 <lmacken> same 19:24:13 <herlo> linuxmania: let's address those in #fedora-admin if you like 19:24:15 * lmacken learned that today :) 19:24:29 <nirik> abadger1999: same thing... browserid is the low level protocol, persona is the implementation (I think) 19:24:43 <linuxmania> herlo, OK. 19:24:54 <puiterwijk> abadger1999: persona is Mozilla's implementation of BrowserID 19:24:54 <abadger1999> puiterwijk: cool. At pycon I met a mozilla guy, dan callahan that would be happy to talk about it if you need any input. 19:24:55 <herlo> lmacken: isn't that TIL :) 19:24:56 * lmacken listening to @lxt from mozilla give a talk right now, and sitting next to one of the guys who admid'd browserid 19:25:14 <puiterwijk> abadger1999: ah cool, could you give me his email or IRC handle? 19:25:28 <nirik> we can also test with hyperkitty, which supports logging in via it. 19:25:33 <abadger1999> puiterwijk: yep. I'll dig it out and get it to you in a pm 19:25:34 <lmacken> herlo: indeed :) 19:25:39 <puiterwijk> abadger1999: thanks :) 19:26:44 <nirik> cool. Related to that we are testing trac openid on trac instances... hopefully to move to it there soon. 19:27:04 <puiterwijk> nirik: wanted to note that in sysadmin part :) 19:27:07 <nirik> #topic Sysadmin status / discussion 19:27:09 <nirik> cool. Related to that we are testing trac openid on trac instances... hopefully to move to it there soon. 19:27:11 <nirik> :) 19:27:13 <puiterwijk> heh 19:27:14 <puiterwijk> :) 19:27:25 <puiterwijk> it is currently live on the infra trac 19:27:28 <nirik> this will allow us to get rid of mod_auth_pg 19:27:33 <nirik> (at least there) 19:27:50 <skvidal> \o/ 19:27:53 <skvidal> | 19:27:54 <nirik> Lets see... in other sysadmin news... 19:28:04 <puiterwijk> skvidal: cool one! :) 19:28:15 * skvidal is happy that mod_auth_pg can go away 19:28:23 <nirik> we have budget numbers for the coming year, smooge and I are poking at them to see what we can/cannot do based on what we wanted to do, etc. 19:28:47 <skvidal> what systems are phasing out this year? 19:28:54 <nirik> There's been some net issues of late... possibly related to that big DOS going on. 19:29:31 <nirik> skvidal: dunno. I think we hope to renew most of them... we will be replacing some tho 19:30:07 <nirik> anything else from the sysadmin side of things? 19:30:22 <smooge> skvidal, I can give you an estimated list in a short while 19:30:30 <skvidal> nirik: cool, thx 19:30:38 <nirik> #topic Private Cloud status update / discussion 19:30:42 <nirik> any cloudy news? 19:30:50 <skvidal> migrated over to openstack entirely 19:30:53 <biker> hey all 19:31:05 <nirik> skvidal: cool. ;) 19:31:10 <skvidal> and next week we can start taking a couple more compute nodes to add to the openstack cluster 19:31:12 <nirik> morning biker 19:31:21 <skvidal> nirik: we can also take the most of the rest of the ips if we want 19:31:22 <nirik> skvidal: sounds good. 19:31:31 <skvidal> nirik: I think we should keep a small subset out 19:31:33 <skvidal> and 2 machines 19:31:36 <nirik> oh yeah, not sure how easy it will be to add to the floating net, but we can look at it. 19:31:38 <skvidal> so we can test out new layouts 19:31:42 <nirik> yep. agreed. 19:31:46 <skvidal> nirik: if we can add a second range 19:31:48 <skvidal> of floating ips 19:31:55 <skvidal> which I _THINK_ is possible 19:31:59 <skvidal> then we could add a /64 there 19:32:04 <nirik> I think adding is possible, but editing existing was a pain last time I tried 19:32:39 <skvidal> nirik: then let's tack on 64 or so ips 19:33:00 <nirik> sure, we can poke at it and see how best to add them 19:33:12 <skvidal> no other cloudy news I can think o 19:33:22 * nirik neither. 19:33:28 <nirik> #topic Upcoming Tasks/Items 19:33:38 <nirik> #info 2013-03-19 to 2013-03-26 - koji update 19:33:38 <nirik> #info 2013-03-29 - spring holiday. 19:33:38 <nirik> #info 2013-04-02 to 2013-04-16 ALPHA infrastructure freeze 19:33:38 <nirik> #info 2013-04-15 - remove legacy-openid 19:33:39 <nirik> #info 2013-04-16 F19 alpha release 19:33:40 <nirik> #info 2013-05-07 to 2013-05-21 BETA infrastructure freeze 19:33:41 <nirik> #info 2013-05-21 F19 beta release 19:33:42 <nirik> #info 2013-05-31 end of 1st quarter 19:33:44 <nirik> #info 2013-06-11 to 2013-06-25 FINAL infrastructure freeze. 19:33:46 <nirik> #info 2013-06-25 F19 FINAL release 19:33:48 <nirik> I don't know what the status of that koji update is. ;( 19:33:55 <nirik> we should ping mattdm and see whats going on. 19:34:02 <skvidal> nirik: it must be finished ;) 19:34:09 <skvidal> mattdm on koji? 19:34:19 <nirik> well, this is to add the cloud image support stuff. 19:34:22 <skvidal> oh 19:34:24 <skvidal> I see 19:34:30 <nirik> I guess we could also just ask upstream koji folks the status. 19:34:34 <skvidal> nod 19:34:37 <nirik> dgilmore might have heard something. 19:34:47 <dgilmore> there was some testing going on 19:34:51 <dgilmore> but its not done 19:35:14 <nirik> is it gonna make it before tuesday? 19:35:48 <nirik> I guess we could do a freeze break for the update, but I would sure prefer not to. ;) 19:36:27 <nirik> also, everyone note that tomorrow is at least a RH holiday, so don't expect lots of people around working on things. 19:36:50 <dgilmore> nirik: no idea 19:37:00 <nirik> ok. 19:37:09 <dgilmore> i know oz has friday and monday off 19:37:10 <nirik> anything else anyone would like to schedule or note? 19:37:41 <skvidal> dgilmore: so we're switching to an img creator that takes money and fridays off?! 19:37:49 <skvidal> oh wait- you mean australia, don't you. :) 19:38:20 <puiterwijk> nirik: maybe one thing to schedule: we might want to send a mass-email to anyone who has used legacy-openid before sunset date? 19:38:27 <dgilmore> skvidal: yes australia 19:38:49 <nirik> puiterwijk: not a bad idea. ;) Perhaps closer to sunset date? say a week or so before? 19:38:50 <dgilmore> pretty sure other countries have easter monday off also 19:38:54 <puiterwijk> nirik: (I have made it keep a log distinct from the syslog for that purpose) 19:38:59 <nirik> or early next week. 19:39:01 <skvidal> dgilmore: I was being silly 19:39:06 <puiterwijk> sure, works for me 19:39:15 <dgilmore> skvidal: ;) i know 19:39:43 <puiterwijk> nirik: 04-04-2013? :) 19:40:14 <puiterwijk> or would that be too late? 19:40:16 <nirik> sure. 19:40:22 <nirik> works for me 19:40:47 <nirik> #topic Open Floor 19:40:49 <puiterwijk> #info 2013-04-04 Send email to folks who have been using legacy-openid to notify about sunset 19:40:56 <nirik> any items for open floor? questions, comments? 19:41:02 <biker> nirik, yeah 19:41:17 <biker> the same as last week,., i hope there are more people now that fudcon is over :p 19:41:24 <skvidal> pycon 19:41:24 <nirik> :) 19:41:25 <biker> pycon * 19:41:26 <skvidal> not fudcon 19:41:27 <skvidal> but yah 19:41:27 <biker> yeah :p 19:41:35 <nirik> biker: ask away... 19:41:42 * herlo also has something 19:42:04 * skvidal has one more item too 19:42:32 <biker> so i want to participate on the google summer of code helping the fedora infrastructure,., so if anyone has an idea of what does could be done or what it is needed, i would like to hear and help (: 19:43:00 <skvidal> is fedora trying to get into GSoC this year? 19:43:39 <biker> skvidal, im not sure,., but they have done it every year,., and fedora also has the fedora on gsoc 2013 wiki 19:43:44 <puiterwijk> skvidal: Fedora itself is according to wiki, but none of the infra stuff has any mentors... 19:43:50 <biker> altough i think they jsut changed 2012 to 2013 19:44:05 <skvidal> who is running the gsoc show for fedora this year? 19:44:12 <skvidal> who is our lead on it? 19:44:23 <abadger1999> I think so. I think bckurera is going to manage it again. 19:44:25 <nirik> I think it's been submitted... but none of them have been announced yet. 19:44:35 <abadger1999> But -- I don't know if we have anyone who is ready to mentor in infra. 19:44:43 * nirik doesn't really have time at this time. 19:44:46 <puiterwijk> skvidal: according to wiki: Buddhike Kurera(Bckurera) 19:45:03 <skvidal> nirik: I'm with you there 19:45:21 <abadger1999> threebean, you up for mentoring someone in GSoC this year? 19:45:23 * puiterwijk also doesn't have time for that 19:45:28 <nirik> pingou suggested we do a team thing... 19:45:36 <skvidal> no idea what that means 19:45:47 <nirik> ie, get several people to mentor the same person... so mentor duties can be spread out. 19:45:49 <threebean> abadger1999: I was going to mentor for http://gnome.org/OPW which is at the same time 19:46:08 <threebean> sorry - https://live.gnome.org/OutreachProgramForWomen 19:46:48 <tflink> from my experience as a mentor for GSoC last year, having multiple people helps - even if they aren't officially part of GSoC 19:47:10 <abadger1999> Well... hmm.... biker We can ask o nthe infra mailing list if there's other people in infra not here at present that would be willing to mentor. 19:47:28 * nirik thinks biker was also interested in ideas of things to work on too. 19:47:28 <biker> abadger1999, that would be great (: 19:47:29 <skvidal> sounds like a plan 19:47:30 <abadger1999> but hte core team seems like they might be overcommitted right now. 19:47:32 <tflink> the official load from GSoC wasn't bad - the hard part was answering questions and helping get stuff done 19:47:46 <skvidal> abadger1999: overcommitted is an understatement 19:47:50 <dgilmore> tflink: ive decided to not at all be involved with GSoC this year 19:48:03 <abadger1999> So you might need to adapt to the needs of what the specific mentor is interested in mentoring for. 19:48:34 <abadger1999> biker: Are you on the infrastructure(a)lists.fp.o mailing list? I'll send an email there right after the meeting. 19:48:59 <nirik> thanks abadger1999 / biker. :) good luck... 19:49:05 <nirik> herlo: you had something? 19:49:08 <herlo> Anyone ever looked at this https://github.com/klaussilveira/gitlist as a replacement for trac, similar to suggestions of gitlabhq. It's php though, so I don't know if it's even worth looking at. The screenshots are nice... 19:49:12 <herlo> nirik: I did 19:49:14 <biker> abadger1999, ill subscribe right now (: thanks a lot to everytone (: 19:49:14 <herlo> :) 19:49:24 * nirik hasn't looked at that before 19:49:38 <herlo> I don't really know if we're actually still discussing replacing trac, but I know it was a topic at FUDCon 19:49:48 <herlo> I was thinking about setting this up for myself anyway. 19:49:54 <nirik> problem is that lacks some things we need... 19:50:04 <nirik> no wiki? no ticketing system? 19:50:10 <herlo> nirik: yeah, I was kind of wondering about that too... 19:50:14 <skvidal> nirik: no users.. 19:50:27 <skvidal> does it even have logins? 19:50:30 <herlo> just thought I'd throw it out there 19:50:30 <skvidal> or is it just a better cgit? 19:50:37 <nirik> we can take a look tho. ;) 19:50:42 <skvidal> herlo: not being derisive - I just couldn't tell from looking at it 19:50:57 <herlo> skvidal: yeah, me neither. I was going to hav ea look if people were interested 19:51:04 <herlo> I could give feedback in a couple meetings from now 19:51:06 <skvidal> herlo: please 19:51:08 <nirik> sure, sounds good. 19:51:08 <skvidal> by all means 19:51:12 <nirik> thanks herlo 19:51:13 <herlo> nice 19:51:14 <herlo> np 19:51:23 <nirik> skvidal: you have something? 19:51:30 <skvidal> wanted to mention these items 19:51:33 <skvidal> we typed these up last week 19:51:35 <skvidal> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_FedoraBugzilla 19:51:36 <skvidal> and 19:51:43 <nirik> ah, yeah. 19:51:46 <skvidal> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure_FedoraHosted_Version2_Notes 19:52:02 <skvidal> both of them are things we've been thinking about for THE FUTURE 19:52:07 <skvidal> constructive input is welcome 19:52:12 * nirik nods. 19:52:18 <skvidal> also 19:52:30 <nirik> look for more discussion on those as we get more input and ideas, etc. 19:52:32 <skvidal> if anyone here has good, hands-on, experience with pgpoolII in production 19:52:40 <skvidal> or any other db replication/HA system 19:52:53 <skvidal> please consider yourself invited to tell us all about your experiences 19:53:05 <nirik> yep. That would be lovely. 19:53:15 <skvidal> the more handson the better 19:53:19 <skvidal> the more experience the better 19:53:28 <skvidal> especially when it comes to failure modes 19:53:38 <skvidal> and how they resynchronize in the event of a failure 19:53:49 * herlo read handson as hanson and was confuzled for a moment wondering why we were talking about a boy band 19:53:57 <skvidal> mmmm bop 19:53:59 <herlo> lol 19:54:02 <nirik> ha. 19:54:03 <herlo> you know you sang it 19:54:06 <herlo> :D 19:54:14 <skvidal> nirik: that's all I had 19:54:17 <nirik> Any other items for open floor from anyone? 19:54:18 <cyberworm54> man finally i caught you guys 19:54:19 <nirik> thanks skvidal 19:54:25 <nirik> hey cyberworm54. 19:54:26 <skvidal> cyberworm54: ? 19:54:50 <cyberworm54> saving time really mess up the meeting time for me 19:55:19 <cyberworm54> I've check at 1 pm est 2pm and I assume it is 3pm est 19:55:28 <nirik> cyberworm54: yeah, it's anoying to me too. ;) 19:55:36 <nirik> anyhow, did you have anything to bring up or discuss? 19:55:42 <frankly3d> Apologies have to go whingin child 19:56:28 <nirik> frankly3d: no worries. ;) 19:56:32 * nirik notes we are almost out of time 19:56:58 * cyberworm54 knows now it is ath 3PM EST 19:57:38 <jerzyr> I'll be looking nirik contact ... 19:57:41 <skvidal> cyberworm54: need tardis 19:57:58 <nirik> jerzyr: ? 19:58:03 <jerzyr> yes :) 19:58:18 <nirik> what are you looking for from me? 19:58:32 * nirik isn't sure if he's forgotten something he was supposed to do or what... 19:59:01 <jerzyr> after .. 19:59:37 <nirik> well, I will definitely be around... ;) 19:59:46 * nirik will close out the meeting in a few here if nothing else. 19:59:51 <cyberworm54> Well I guess I will just read the log when posted in the infra mail list 20:00:25 <nirik> Thanks for coming everyone! 20:00:28 <nirik> #endmeeting

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EMEA ambassadors meeting minutes 2013-03-27
by Jiri Eischmann 27 Mar '13

27 Mar '13

Hello, we had another EMEA ambassadors meeting today. 15 ambassadors participated. The meeting lasted 1 hour 43 minutes. If you want to know more, read the minutes: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-03-27/emea_ambassadors… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-03-27/emea_ambassadors… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-03-27/emea_ambassadors… The next meeting will be at 20:00 UTC on Wed April 10th. We've changed the UTC time of the meeting to keep the same local time after the summer time switch! The time remains 22:00 CEST. Jiri

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Fedora ARM weekly status meeting minutes 2013-03-27
by Paul Whalen 27 Mar '13

27 Mar '13

Thanks to those that were able to join for the status meeting today, for those unable the minutes are posted below: Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-03-27/fedora-meeting… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-03-27/fedora-meeting… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-03-27/fedora-meeting… Paul =================================================== #fedora-meeting-1: Fedora ARM weekly status meeting =================================================== Meeting started by pwhalen at 20:00:33 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-03-27/fedora-meeting… . Meeting summary --------------- * 0) Status of ACTION items from our previous meeting (pwhalen, 20:02:43) * LINK: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-03-20/fedora-meeting… (pwhalen, 20:02:51) * -RESOLVED- pwhalen and mlangsdorf are working on the highbank issues - Issue turned out to be HW related. (pwhalen, 20:03:02) * -COMPLETE- pbrobinson will update 3.9 kernel config over weekend and spin out a new test build (pwhalen, 20:03:13) * LINK: http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=130599 (pwhalen, 20:03:25) * pbrobinson to post a list of leaf packages to arm(a)lists.fp.o (pwhalen, 20:03:49) * ACTION: pbrobinson to post a list of leaf packages to arm(a)lists.fp.o (pwhalen, 20:04:30) * 1) Problem Packages (pwhalen, 20:05:45) * tog-pegasus, mongodb, some ruby apps are the top issues (bconoboy, 20:08:03) * mongodb bz #921226: It now builds but the resulting rpms do not function (bconoboy, 20:12:44) * - ruby packages fixed : rubygem-nokogiri, rubygem-gherkin, rubygem-ffi, ruby-korundum (pwhalen, 20:17:14) * AGREED: jcapik and colleagues are awesome for fixing them (bconoboy, 20:17:31) * being analyzed : rubygem-RedCloth (pwhalen, 20:17:38) * 2) F19: uImage load addresses with unified kernel (pwhalen, 20:18:32) * We will use bootz wherever possible for F19 (bconoboy, 20:29:59) * Currently bootz is not an option for armada-xp, but this is being checked on with Marvell (bconoboy, 20:30:14) * Bootz may or may not be an option for omap, this needs to be investigated further (bconoboy, 20:30:29) * Whether or not omap can use bootz, some image post-processing will be necessary due to providing board specific MLO binaries (bconoboy, 20:30:55) * 3) Open Floor (pwhalen, 20:31:45) * LINK: http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=130599 (pwhalen, 20:40:35) Meeting ended at 20:46:47 UTC. Action Items ------------ * pbrobinson to post a list of leaf packages to arm(a)lists.fp.o Action Items, by person ----------------------- * pbrobinson * pbrobinson to post a list of leaf packages to arm(a)lists.fp.o * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * bconoboy (50) * pwhalen (39) * dmarlin (30) * jonmasters (15) * dgilmore (14) * zodbot (12) * fossjon (9) * jcapik (8) * masta (7) * ctyler (4) * j_dulaney (3) * ahs3 (2) * oatley (2) * pbrobinson (0)

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F19 Alpha Blocker Bug Review #3 Minutes
by Tim Flink 27 Mar '13

27 Mar '13

================================================= #fedora-blocker-review: f19alpha-blocker-review-3 ================================================= Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-03-27/f19alpha-… Minutes (text): http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-03-27/f19alpha-… Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2013-03-27/f19alpha-… Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (tflink, 16:01:05) * Introduction (tflink, 16:08:31) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (tflink, 16:08:44) * We'll be following the process outlined at: (tflink, 16:08:51) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (tflink, 16:08:52) * The bugs up for review today are available at: (tflink, 16:08:57) * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (tflink, 16:08:57) * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (tflink, 16:09:07) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_19_Alpha_Release_Criteria (tflink, 16:09:07) * Up for review today, we have: (tflink, 16:09:40) * 16 Proposed Blockers (tflink, 16:09:52) * 8 Accepted Blockers (tflink, 16:09:52) * 3 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (tflink, 16:09:52) * 1 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (tflink, 16:09:52) * (926913) rescue mode fails with traceback (tflink, 16:12:25) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=926913 (tflink, 16:12:25) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, POST (tflink, 16:12:25) * AGREED: 926913 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 alpha release criterion: "The rescue mode of the installer must start successfully and be able to detect and mount an existing default installation." (tflink, 16:16:49) * (924138) Cannot set password for root during text-mode installation (tflink, 16:17:00) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=924138 (tflink, 16:17:04) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, VERIFIED (tflink, 16:17:06) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=926900#c1 (robatino, 16:18:44) * this bug is already VERIFIED, skipping review since we're not in freeze yet (tflink, 16:20:56) * (924162) Software selection checking doesn't work. (tflink, 16:21:18) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=924162 (tflink, 16:21:18) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:21:18) * AGREED: 924162 - RejectedBlocker - This does not hit any of the alpha release criteria as it requires the user to ignore dep errors and proceed with the install and is thus rejected as a release blocking bug for Fedora 19 alpha (tflink, 16:28:41) * (926916) anaconda can't report traceback to bugzilla (tflink, 16:28:57) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=926916 (tflink, 16:28:57) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:28:57) * AGREED: 926916 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 alpha release criterion: "The installer must be able to report failures to Bugzilla, with appropriate information included." (tflink, 16:32:15) * (928279) anaconda doesn't start on LiveCD (in Gnome) (tflink, 16:32:31) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=928279 (tflink, 16:32:31) * Proposed Blocker, anaconda, NEW (tflink, 16:32:31) * AGREED: 928279 - While this sounds like it has potential to be a release blocking issue, we need more details before making a final decision - will revisit when more details are available (tflink, 16:42:09) * (928303) F19 KDE contains F18 artwork (tflink, 16:42:21) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=928303 (tflink, 16:42:21) * Proposed Blocker, distribution, NEW (tflink, 16:42:21) * AGREED: 928303 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 alpha release criterion: "The default desktop background must be different from that of the two previous stable releases" (tflink, 16:46:30) * (927967) initial-setup is not included in default install (tflink, 16:46:47) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=927967 (tflink, 16:46:47) * Proposed Blocker, distribution, MODIFIED (tflink, 16:46:47) * AGREED: 927967 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 release criterion as firstboot has been retired: "A system installed with a graphical package set must boot to the 'firstboot' utility on the first boot after installation. The firstboot utility must be able to create a working user account." (tflink, 16:54:35) * (928353) FF 32b crashes for a number of web pages (tflink, 16:54:49) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=928353 (tflink, 16:54:50) * Proposed Blocker, firefox, NEW (tflink, 16:54:50) * AGREED: 928353 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 alpha release criterion: "It must be possible to run the default web browser and a terminal application from all release-blocking desktop environments." (tflink, 16:59:44) * (923364) [3.7.92] Despite moving mouse in Black Screen(Blank Screen), gnome-shell doesn't switch to unlock screen (tflink, 17:02:10) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=923364 (tflink, 17:02:13) * Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (tflink, 17:02:16) * AGREED: 923364 - RejectedBlocker - While this is annoying, it is possible to workaround by pressing esc or disabling screen lock. As such, it does not violate any of the F19 alpha release criterion and is rejected as a release blocking bug for F19 alpha (tflink, 17:07:57) * (924031) initial-setup-graphical.service fails (tflink, 17:08:10) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=924031 (tflink, 17:08:11) * Proposed Blocker, initial-setup, POST (tflink, 17:08:11) * it isn't clear whether it's a good idea for initial-setup to have a package-level dep on anaconda, the exact method of fixing will require more conversation with devs (tflink, 17:12:59) * AGREED: 924031 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 alpha release criterion for the KDE spin: "A system installed with a graphical package set must boot to the 'firstboot' utility on the first boot after installation. The firstboot utility must be able to create a working user account." (tflink, 17:14:36) * (928228) global name 'ROOT_PATH' is not defined (tflink, 17:14:57) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=928228 (tflink, 17:14:58) * Proposed Blocker, python-blivet, NEW (tflink, 17:14:58) * AGREED: 928228 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 alpha release criterion for installs to bare-metal: "The installer must be able to complete an installation to a single disk using automatic partitioning." (tflink, 17:25:28) * (922988) python-blivet not creating /sys and /run on /mnt/sysimage (tflink, 17:25:47) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=922988 (tflink, 17:25:50) * Proposed Blocker, python-blivet, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:25:52) * AGREED: 922988 - RejectedBlocker - The hacks in place are enough to make this not a release blocking issue for F19 alpha and thus, this bug is rejected as a blocker for F19 alpha (tflink, 17:31:14) * (919374) /var/run not created with var_run_t leading to many boot avc's (tflink, 17:31:28) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=919374 (tflink, 17:31:31) * Proposed Blocker, selinux-policy, MODIFIED (tflink, 17:31:34) * AGREED: 919374 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 alpha release criterion for DVD and netinstall installs: "A system installed with a graphical package set must boot to the 'firstboot' utility on the first boot after installation. The firstboot utility must be able to create a working user account." (tflink, 17:41:05) * (924500) kvm f19 guest reports "BUG: bad unlock balance detected" (backtrace) when using vnc/cirrus on f17 host (tflink, 17:41:15) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=924500 (tflink, 17:41:18) * Proposed Blocker, xorg-x11-drivers, NEW (tflink, 17:41:20) * AGREED: 924500 - RejectedBlocker - Running on virt is not an alpha release criteria and later comments make it sound like this might not be so widespread (tflink, 17:45:02) * (924494) kvm f19 guest xorg segfault with spice/qlx on f17 hosts (tflink, 17:48:07) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=924494 (tflink, 17:48:10) * Proposed Blocker, xorg-x11-drivers, NEW (tflink, 17:48:12) * AGREED: 924494 - RejectedBlocker - Virt-only bugs do not qualify as blockers for F19 alpha (tflink, 17:51:26) * (928339) systemd[1]: Failed to mount /run: No such file or directory (tflink, 17:51:47) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=928339 (tflink, 17:51:50) * Proposed Blocker, systemd, NEW (tflink, 17:51:53) * AGREED: 928339 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the following F19 alpha release criterion: "A system installed with a graphical package set must boot to the 'firstboot' utility on the first boot after installation. The firstboot utility must be able to create a working user account." (tflink, 18:01:28) * ACTION: tflink or adamw to finish secretarializing from a previous meeting and reject 894110 as a proposed FE (tflink, 18:03:40) * (920380) Graphical menu screen garbled on thinkpad T400 (tflink, 18:03:50) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=920380 (tflink, 18:03:50) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, grub2, NEW (tflink, 18:03:50) * AGREED: 920380 - RejectedFreezeException - There is no proposed fix and no clear idea on how to fix this issue. Rejected as freeze exception for F19 alpha, please re-propose if there is a fix imminently available. (tflink, 18:13:07) * (923547) Packages listed as 'optional' in comps being pulled into F19 live composes (tflink, 18:13:20) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=923547 (tflink, 18:13:23) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, yum, NEW (tflink, 18:13:25) * AGREED: 923547 - AcceptedFreezeException - This causes oversized isos and while this isn't a release blocking issue for Alpha, it is for beta and would be good to get it fixed now if possible (tflink, 18:20:23) * (919935) enblend FTBFS due to doc/texinfo related issues (tflink, 18:20:55) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=919935 (tflink, 18:20:56) * Accepted Blocker, enblend, NEW (tflink, 18:20:56) * AGREED: 919935 - RejectedBlocker - While still a serious issue, the components of this which were blocking the release of F19 alpha have been solved (enblend has been built and pulled into TC2). Thus, this is no longer considered a release blocking bug for F19 alpha (tflink, 18:29:35) * (924248) repoclosure failure on 19 Alpha TC1 DVDs (enblend) (tflink, 18:29:47) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=924248 (tflink, 18:29:50) * Accepted Blocker, enblend, NEW (tflink, 18:29:53) * this has been reported as fixed with TC2, can be closed (tflink, 18:30:25) * (917246) gdm-simple-slave crashes on login attempt (tflink, 18:30:35) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=917246 (tflink, 18:30:35) * Accepted Blocker, gnome-shell, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:30:36) * no movement on this bug in a week (tflink, 18:31:41) * some disagreement on where the bug should be fixed - in comps by adding gnome-session-xsession or if GDM should be able to survive without an existing session (tflink, 18:32:45) * still waiting for feedback from desktop team on possible fix (tflink, 18:33:16) * AGREED: 917246 - RejectedBlocker - This symptom is no longer present after gnome-session-xsession was added to the comps group. Thus, this is no longer considered severe enough to block release of F19 alpha (tflink, 18:37:30) * (923951) yum is getting stuck in urlgrabber (tflink, 18:37:34) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=923951 (tflink, 18:37:37) * Accepted Blocker, python-urlgrabber, NEW (tflink, 18:37:39) * progress is being made, an initial root cause has been proposed (tflink, 18:39:14) * (924256) repoclosure failure on 19 Alpha TC1 DVDs (resteasy) (tflink, 18:39:52) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=924256 (tflink, 18:39:55) * Accepted Blocker, resteasy, NEW (tflink, 18:39:57) * still broken in TC2 (tflink, 18:40:08) * resteasy has been FTBFS in rawhide since 2013-02-22 (tflink, 18:41:34) * ACTION: adamw to check into resteasy dep errors on tomcat6 and whether it needs to be removed (tflink, 18:47:52) * (924244) repoclosure failure on 19 Alpha TC1 DVDs (rubygem-rails) (tflink, 18:48:13) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=924244 (tflink, 18:48:16) * Accepted Blocker, rubygem-rails, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:48:19) * this was fixed in TC2, bug can be closed (tflink, 18:48:40) * (924258) repoclosure failure on 19 Alpha TC1 DVDs (rubygem-railties) (tflink, 18:49:40) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=924258 (tflink, 18:49:43) * Accepted Blocker, rubygem-railties, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:49:46) * this has been fixed in F19 alpha TC2, can be closed (tflink, 18:50:05) * (928302) setroubleshoot-server-3.2.3-1.fc19.i686 requires setools-libs-python >= 3.3.7-19 (tflink, 18:50:39) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=928302 (tflink, 18:50:42) * Accepted Blocker, setroubleshoot, MODIFIED (tflink, 18:50:44) * this has been reported to be fixed in newest setroubleshoot but not yet in a TC (tflink, 18:51:25) * can likely be closed after the next TC build (tflink, 18:51:34) * Open Floor (tflink, 18:52:11) Meeting ended at 19:12:27 UTC. Action Items ------------ * tflink or adamw to finish secretarializing from a previous meeting and reject 894110 as a proposed FE * adamw to check into resteasy dep errors on tomcat6 and whether it needs to be removed Action Items, by person ----------------------- * adamw * tflink or adamw to finish secretarializing from a previous meeting and reject 894110 as a proposed FE * adamw to check into resteasy dep errors on tomcat6 and whether it needs to be removed * tflink * tflink or adamw to finish secretarializing from a previous meeting and reject 894110 as a proposed FE * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tflink (270) * adamw (163) * kparal (89) * brunowolff (51) * jreznik (20) * smooge (8) * zodbot (5) * robatino (5) * satellit_e (4) * nirik (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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FAmNA Meeting (26 March 2013)
by Dan Mashal 26 Mar '13

26 Mar '13

====================== #fedora-meeting: FAmNA ====================== Meeting started by dan408 at 01:00:52 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-03-27/famna.2013-03-27… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (dan408, 01:01:05) * Announcements (dan408, 01:03:26) * Budget (dan408, 01:07:05) * LINK: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApBrbq5j6NbOdG0zQzVvR3VqQ05NaE… (dan408, 01:08:25) * FAmNA approves $500 to sponsor SELF (inode0, 01:12:26) * ACTION: herlo to make a report on ticket (masta, 01:25:19) * Open Floor (dan408, 01:31:17) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxFest_Northwest_(LFNW)_2013 (rbergeron, 01:57:20) Meeting ended at 02:03:42 UTC. Action Items ------------ * herlo to make a report on ticket Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * herlo to make a report on ticket People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * dan408 (116) * masta (67) * award3535 (62) * inode0 (43) * rbergeron (27) * suehle (20) * zodbot (11) * nb (4) * inode1 (2) * adamw (0)

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[CR] REMINDER French Fedora Meeting Today #fedora-meeting-1
by Kévin Raymond 26 Mar '13

26 Mar '13

Voici le compte rendu : http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-03-26/fedora-fr.2013… -- Kévin Raymond (Shaiton)

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Docs Project Meeting Summary
by Pete Travis 26 Mar '13

26 Mar '13

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 As promised, I'm catching up on sending out meeting summaries. The notes below will cover the most recent 25 March meeting as well as last week's 18 March meeting. - - 18 March 2013 - We talked about the progress towards changing our publishing platform. It was generally decided that Rudi had things well in hand, but that we'd like to know what was going on. Lnovich offered to track him down. I brought up a thread on devel@ containing a proposal for a help center desktop application, which you can read at http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2013-March/180093.html or https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design/Help_Center_Idea . I expressed concern that unvalidated content from ask.fp.o would take semantic precedence over curated content from the docs writers, and urged the other members to comment on the proposal with their own thoughts. The group graciously accepted nagging about Release Note beats. jreznik asked us to review his comments on the docs list, and the wiki page for the changes process. The general feeling has been that we would like help with raw content, and want developers to know don't expect polish. The meeting ended a bit late, apologies to the QA team. Zodbot asked us to read some links as the meeting closed: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-03-18/docs_project_age… http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-03-18/docs_project_age… - - 25 March 2013 - The new publishing platform was on the table again. lnovich spoke with Rudi about it, as did I. The end result will give us a very simple and effective publishing process that our RH contributors will probably find familiar. If I'm recalling it correctly, some magic of publican and git combines to allow us to publish a single translation of a document with a single command, nicely wrapping up the RPM packaging process, building in git, and installing to production in one go. rbergeron stopped by, and we touched on the Changes/Feature process. [ I'm still not sure of the appropriate name for it! ] We need to make a point to validate the information we pull out of the Feature pages into the beats at each release stage, because the former is dynamic and the latter has been... less dynamic. shaiton valiantly volunteered to clean up the duplicate language teams on transifex. It looks like much of that has been completed by the time I sat down to write the summary - thanks shaiton! The logs are available for your review at: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-03-25/fedora_docs.2013… http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2013-03-25/fedora_docs.2013… - Afterthoughts - If you can't make it to the meeting, please use the list! - -- - -- Pete Travis - Fedora Docs Project Leader - 'randomuser' on freenode - immanetize(a)fedoraproject.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJRUUGSAAoJEL1wZM0+jj2ZX24H/j19yAwuFAiB5R0yU56zhpi4 /HlRHjtUHaEe4KuO82Qajki4E4Icp/z4NfcABAKZ5lAfOGZKuLl1j0VPPzBxx5/G rxzBQMuR+6dKOdkhqSMKvi4lByxmVEtXaC3HLA00IlPY5BSGflVZr4iHQZSZdvKX zpKbtil5K1BaP3FJ48q2MRQyP0ex77sLLTGIMZjmgkVrvk5XSqEnnI8vcIJBLUCj /9RLbMXea6epQk/eqCAueC87eMNJb9oa/B/adkQNMNuOfyWy9ocmgH+4hD3HrlqW p5YUk6eUJdzdL7K+B1WEFrkewxnMkuh0aqB6eOFX6JT4iteXQiOKz7b/Nlsev/k= =7U7n -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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2013-03-25 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap
by Adam Williamson 25 Mar '13

25 Mar '13

As always, minutes and IRC transcript available on the wiki at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130325 Next meeting is scheduled for 2013-04-01 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting. If you have topics you think we should bring up at the meeting, please add them to the Wiki page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20130401 . Thanks! TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up ======================================================================= * adamw to work with developers on getting F19 images to bootable state - this was done: TC1 is bootable * adamw to work out a fallback plan with desktop team if we cannot get working images by Wednesday - this was done: Test Day went ahead with F19 images TOPIC: Fedora 19 Alpha status ======================================================================= * Bug #923951[1] is a major development/testing roadblock * TC1 DVD install fails on dependency issues, so we need a TC2 soon without those * We need to ensure we do all the tests that don't require network install at least, on TC2 TOPIC: Test Days ======================================================================= * 2013-03-21 GNOME Test Day[2] went ahead with working F19-based images, attendance was better than 3.4 and 3.6 but still below where it could be: try to improve outside publicity for future events * kparal suggests that the scope of the GNOME Test Day has gotten wider than a single day can really cover and suggests splitting future events into multiple days * kparal and martix will look after System Certificates Test Day[3] planning TOPIC: Open floor ======================================================================= * tflink still working on getting the blocker proposal webapp into production, it's on staging now but still a couple of bugs to fix ACTION ITEMS ======================================================================= * adamw to request a TC2 as soon as it's clear we can compose one without critical dep issues * kparal to talk to martix and ensure System Certificates Test Day page[3] will be in shape and ready to go ahead for Thursday, or delay the event 1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=923951 2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-03-21_Gnome_3.8 3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2013-03-28_System_Certificates 4. https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2013-March/114305.html -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | identi.ca: adamwfedora http://www.happyassassin.net

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