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#fedora-meeting: Workstation WG
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Meeting started by stickster at 14:00:26 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-03-30/workstation.201…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll call (stickster, 14:00:31)
* ostree based Workstation (stickster, 14:06:44)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/WorkstationOstree
(stickster, 14:07:26)
* The new ostree model Workstation will be an additive product at
first and isn't expected to replace the existing Workstation right
away; will need "field" data to see where we need to make changes or
enhancements for use cases (stickster, 14:25:45)
* We need to be careful about support combinatorics, i.e. not making
support matrix unwieldy by too many variations of underlying tech
(PK/xdg-app; librpm/ostree; others) (stickster, 14:28:46)
* release engineering and service tooling component of offering
xdg-app on top of Workstation is significant work; will need
consistent outreach to rel-eng and infra guys (stickster, 15:01:33)
* ACTION: mclasen___ will contact Amanda and involve stickster so we
can figure out how/where to discuss further with rel-eng and track
work (stickster, 15:03:27)
Meeting ended at 15:10:17 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* mclasen___ will contact Amanda and involve stickster so we can figure
out how/where to discuss further with rel-eng and track work
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* mclasen___
* mclasen___ will contact Amanda and involve stickster so we can
figure out how/where to discuss further with rel-eng and track work
* stickster
* mclasen___ will contact Amanda and involve stickster so we can
figure out how/where to discuss further with rel-eng and track work
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* stickster (74)
* alexlarsson (60)
* mclasen___ (40)
* otaylor (38)
* hughsie (36)
* cschalle (19)
* ryanlerch (14)
* zodbot (11)
* ueno (1)
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#fedora-meeting-2: FAmSCo 2016-03-30
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Meeting started by giannisk at 13:10:42 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2016-03-30/famsco.2016-0…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (giannisk, 13:10:52)
* 2/7 FAmSCo members present at the meeting. (giannisk, 13:11:24)
* No quorum reached. (giannisk, 13:11:40)
* gnokii sends regrets. (giannisk, 13:11:57)
* Rest of FAmSCo members, please review current tickets on famsco
trac. (giannisk, 13:14:03)
* LINK: http://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/gmt (giannisk,
13:18:39)
* 4/7 FAmSCo members currently present. Quorum reached. (giannisk,
14:05:46)
* Chair re-elections (giannisk, 14:07:28)
* Deadline for nominations is today at 15:59 UTC. (giannisk,
14:08:28)
* Current nominations: cwickert and potty. (giannisk, 14:09:15)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/393 (giannisk,
14:10:04)
* 2016-03-30 UTC 16:00 – 2016-04-06 UTC 15:59:59 (giannisk, 14:10:16)
* ACTION: giannisk follow-up on trac with final nominations and a
reminder to vote. (giannisk, 14:13:10)
* F24 Readiness (giannisk, 14:15:30)
* the current timeline can be found at
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-24/f-24-ambassadors-tasks.html
(cwickert, 14:19:23)
* the current timeline can be found at
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-24/f-24-ambassadors-tasks.html
(cwickert, 14:20:38)
* ACTION: tuanta to provide updates during our next meeting on behalf
of APAC. These would be related to F24 tasks. (giannisk, 14:24:43)
* Lazy consensus proposal (giannisk, 14:26:59)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/390 (giannisk,
14:27:06)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/390#comment:19
(giannisk, 14:27:42)
* ACTION: cwickert to update #390 and address gnokii's concerns. He'll
have one more week to state additional concerns, but the case will
be closed as there is a majority already. (cwickert, 14:55:53)
* meeting time (cwickert, 14:56:44)
* if we cannot find a new meeting time, FAmSCo will continue with the
current slot (cwickert, 14:58:16)
* ACTION: everybody please consider updating your votes at
http://whenisgood.net/new-famsco-meeting/ (cwickert, 14:59:01)
* Roll Call (giannisk, 15:00:12)
Meeting ended at 15:03:01 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* giannisk follow-up on trac with final nominations and a reminder to
vote.
* tuanta to provide updates during our next meeting on behalf of APAC.
These would be related to F24 tasks.
* cwickert to update #390 and address gnokii's concerns. He'll have one
more week to state additional concerns, but the case will be closed as
there is a majority already.
* everybody please consider updating your votes at
http://whenisgood.net/new-famsco-meeting/
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* cwickert
* cwickert to update #390 and address gnokii's concerns. He'll have
one more week to state additional concerns, but the case will be
closed as there is a majority already.
* giannisk
* giannisk follow-up on trac with final nominations and a reminder to
vote.
* tuanta
* tuanta to provide updates during our next meeting on behalf of APAC.
These would be related to F24 tasks.
* **UNASSIGNED**
* everybody please consider updating your votes at
http://whenisgood.net/new-famsco-meeting/
People Present (lines said)
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* giannisk (97)
* cwickert (76)
* potty (34)
* tuanta (23)
* jflory7 (14)
* zodbot (11)
* mailga (11)
* decause (1)
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#fedora-diversity: Fedora Diversity Meeting
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Meeting started by tatica at 13:16:58 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-diversity/2016-03-30/fedora_divers…
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Meeting summary
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* roll call (tatica, 13:17:08)
* Fedora Women Day - July (tatica, 13:20:32)
* ACTION: add a wiki page for the activity (tatica, 13:21:02)
* Fedora Women Day - July (tatica, 13:21:37)
* LINK: https://thegnomejournal.wordpress.com/2009/11/ (tatica,
13:25:33)
* ACTION: Create article about female participans of GSoC (Mentors and
Students) (tatica, 13:27:36)
* Magazine Article (tatica, 13:32:41)
* ACTION: pull a list of females to interview for the GSoC experience
article (tatica, 13:35:08)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Riecatnor (Amita,
13:37:08)
* ACTION: women to ask to write articles: mizmo, Amita, tatica,
labbott, reicatnor, emily (marinaz, 13:37:54)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Diversity_Adviser#Current_Activities
(tatica, 13:38:15)
* flock (tatica, 13:52:17)
* ACTION: Amita will lead the Fedora Women talk proposal for Flock and
email us her abstract to provide feedback (tatica, 13:59:38)
* ACTION: start a mail thread for discussing talk submission in flock
(Amita, 13:59:51)
* Survey (tatica, 14:05:40)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Riecatnor is my favorite
(Amita, 14:08:55)
* ACTION: email the list to reach potential speakers for the diversity
panel (tatica, 14:10:07)
* Open Floor (tatica, 14:11:10)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GSOC_2016/Student_Application_bee2502
(jflory7, 14:12:20)
* ACTION: tatica wrote an email to diversity list about Diversity
Panel, please share up! (tatica, 14:16:14)
* ACTION: decause create limesurvey account for OSAS with jzb
(decause, 14:20:11)
* AGREED: Amita and marinaz will start working on the Fedora Women
article of GSoC participation (jflory7, 14:22:08)
* AGREED: flock: amita send us the abstract for feedback - email about
panel is up, waiting for response and submit proposal (jflory7,
14:22:11)
* AGREED: leave Fedora Women Day planning for next week once we finish
flock tasks (jflory7, 14:22:18)
Meeting ended at 14:27:38 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* add a wiki page for the activity
* Create article about female participans of GSoC (Mentors and Students)
* pull a list of females to interview for the GSoC experience article
* women to ask to write articles: mizmo, Amita, tatica, labbott,
reicatnor, emily
* Amita will lead the Fedora Women talk proposal for Flock and email us
her abstract to provide feedback
* start a mail thread for discussing talk submission in flock
* email the list to reach potential speakers for the diversity panel
* tatica wrote an email to diversity list about Diversity Panel, please
share up!
* decause create limesurvey account for OSAS with jzb
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* Amita
* women to ask to write articles: mizmo, Amita, tatica, labbott,
reicatnor, emily
* Amita will lead the Fedora Women talk proposal for Flock and email
us her abstract to provide feedback
* decause
* decause create limesurvey account for OSAS with jzb
* mizmo
* women to ask to write articles: mizmo, Amita, tatica, labbott,
reicatnor, emily
* tatica
* women to ask to write articles: mizmo, Amita, tatica, labbott,
reicatnor, emily
* tatica wrote an email to diversity list about Diversity Panel,
please share up!
* **UNASSIGNED**
* add a wiki page for the activity
* Create article about female participans of GSoC (Mentors and
Students)
* pull a list of females to interview for the GSoC experience article
* start a mail thread for discussing talk submission in flock
* email the list to reach potential speakers for the diversity panel
People Present (lines said)
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* tatica (139)
* Amita (114)
* marinaz (62)
* jflory7 (46)
* mizmo (26)
* decause (25)
* zodbot (22)
* meskarune (19)
* mieko (12)
* cialu (3)
* mailga (1)
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#fedora-meeting: g11n
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Meeting started by pravins at 06:00:30 UTC. The full logs are available
at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2016-03-30/g11n.2016-03-30…
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Meeting summary
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* agenda and roll call (pravins, 06:00:30)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2016-03-30
(pravins, 06:01:48)
* Upcoming schedule (pravins, 06:02:09)
* 2016-04-05 Software Translation Deadline (pravins, 06:02:09)
* 2016-04-19 Beta Freeze (*) (pravins, 06:02:10)
* 2016-04-19 Change Checkpoint: 100% Code Complete Deadline
(pravins, 06:02:10)
* 2016-05-03 Beta Release (pravins, 06:02:10)
* LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/fedora-24-alpha-released/
(pravins, 06:03:00)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/6378 (pravins,
06:07:17)
* F24 L10N test day planning (pravins, 06:08:10)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/18 (pravins, 06:08:11)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2016-03-29_Translation_Test_Day
(pravins, 06:08:47)
* Need to update comps testcase, not very clear.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA-L10N:comps (pravins, 06:17:34)
* F24 I18N Test day planning (pravins, 06:19:35)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/60 (pravins, 06:19:36)
* TODO list for i18n test day
https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/60#comment:3 (pravins,
06:24:58)
* Fedora Translation sprint (pravins, 06:28:25)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/5 (pravins, 06:28:25)
* We have draft ready in http://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/ now.
(pravins, 06:29:02)
* ACTION: Ping FPL for adding Translation sprint news in Weekly 5
news. (pravins, 06:33:14)
* ACTION: Discuss with Jona on outreach plan. (pravins, 06:33:31)
* ACTION: pravins to ping mleonova again today for badge design.
(pravins, 06:34:15)
* Translation sprint happening from 1st to 5th April 2016. (pravins,
06:35:02)
* Live media with langpacks included (pravins, 06:35:13)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/G11N/ticket/17 (pravins, 06:35:14)
* F24 change planning (pravins, 06:42:38)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/57 (pravins, 06:42:39)
* ACTION: Satya to work with FLTG and change proposal owners to
improve test cases. (pravins, 06:45:37)
* FTBFS bugs for Rawhide (pravins) (pravins, 06:47:07)
* LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/i18n/ticket/61 (pravins, 06:47:08)
* Open Floor (pravins, 06:50:50)
Meeting ended at 07:00:34 UTC.
Action Items
------------
* Ping FPL for adding Translation sprint news in Weekly 5 news.
* Discuss with Jona on outreach plan.
* pravins to ping mleonova again today for badge design.
* Satya to work with FLTG and change proposal owners to improve test
cases.
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* pravins
* pravins to ping mleonova again today for badge design.
* Satya
* Satya to work with FLTG and change proposal owners to improve test
cases.
* **UNASSIGNED**
* Ping FPL for adding Translation sprint news in Weekly 5 news.
* Discuss with Jona on outreach plan.
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* pravins (134)
* jibecfed (23)
* zodbot (11)
* juhp (10)
* paragan (5)
* Satya (3)
* tagoh_ (1)
* ueno (1)
* epico (1)
* fujiwarat (1)
* suanand (1)
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#fedora-blocker-review: F24-blocker-review
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:00:10 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2016-03-29/f24-bloc…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 16:00:10)
* Introduction (adamw, 16:03:10)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (adamw, 16:03:10)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:03:11)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(adamw, 16:03:11)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:03:13)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw,
16:03:15)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw,
16:03:17)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_24_Alpha_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:03:21)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_24_Beta_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:03:23)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_24_Final_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:03:25)
* kparal to secretarialize, thanks kparal (adamw, 16:06:39)
* (1315494) C.UTF-8 doesn't actually work as a default locale (adamw,
16:07:07)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1315494 (adamw,
16:07:07)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (adamw, 16:07:07)
* AGREED: 1315494 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this clearly violates the
criteria (installer fails to run at all) and it's unlikely we can
make the Beta release with the same anaconda build we used for Alpha
(which did not suffer from the bug) (adamw, 16:11:54)
* (1318067) [anaconda] non-bootable system after fresh install of
current F24 on bare metal (adamw, 16:12:01)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1318067 (adamw,
16:12:01)
* Proposed Blocker, grub2, NEW (adamw, 16:12:01)
* AGREED: 1318067 - punt (delay decision) - we're generally inclined
to take this as a Beta or Final blocker, but we'd like to try and
gather some more precise data to be sure how wide the impact is
first (adamw, 16:20:10)
* (1321330) on i.mx6 systems the console does not start correctly
(adamw, 16:20:15)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1321330 (adamw,
16:20:15)
* Proposed Blocker, kernel, NEW (adamw, 16:20:16)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/Supported_Platforms
lists only Fedora 21 and older :) (kparal, 16:25:45)
* AGREED: 1321330 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - violates Alpha criterion
"All release-blocking images must boot in their supported
configurations" on several supported ARM platforms (see "Supported
ARM platforms" footnote) (adamw, 16:31:07)
* (1262556) AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute
'get_data' (adamw, 16:32:34)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1262556 (adamw,
16:32:34)
* Proposed Blocker, NetworkManager, NEW (adamw, 16:32:35)
* AGREED: 1262556 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - testing indicates that
this bug violates "When using a dedicated installer image, the
installer must be able to complete an installation using the text,
graphical and VNC installation interfaces." (and other 'complete an
install' criteria) for at least some affected systems, likely
wifi-only installs from netinst / DVD (adamw, 16:41:48)
* (1320395) No 'favorites' in F24 KDE menu (adamw, 16:41:59)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1320395 (adamw,
16:41:59)
* Proposed Blocker, plasma-desktop, ON_QA (adamw, 16:41:59)
* AGREED: 1320395 - RejectedBlocker (Beta), AcceptedBlocker (Final) -
we agreed this isn't really severe enough to constitute "entirely
non-functional" (the Beta wording) but does violate the Final
criterion "All elements of the default panel (or equivalent)
configuration in all release-blocking desktops must function
correctly in typical use." (adamw, 16:54:03)
* that's all for Beta, moving onto Final (adamw, 16:54:38)
* (1320396) [abrt] gnome-software: magazine_chain_pop_head():
gnome-software killed by SIGSEGV (adamw, 16:54:43)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1320396 (adamw,
16:54:43)
* Proposed Blocker, gnome-software, NEW (adamw, 16:54:43)
* AGREED: 1320396 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this appears to violate
"Release-blocking desktops must notify the user of available
updates, but must not do so when running as a live image." (adamw,
17:00:33)
* (1320666) Show correct Fedora 24 background in KDE (adamw, 17:00:42)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1320666 (adamw,
17:00:43)
* Proposed Blocker, kde-settings, ASSIGNED (adamw, 17:00:43)
* AGREED: 1320666 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - clear violation of "The
proposed final Fedora artwork must be included and used as the
background on release-blocking desktops." (adamw, 17:09:33)
* (1314637) SELinux is preventing fwupd from 'write' accesses on the
directory 0000:00:02.0. (adamw, 17:09:43)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1314637 (adamw,
17:09:43)
* Proposed Blocker, selinux-policy, MODIFIED (adamw, 17:09:44)
* AGREED: 1314637 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - violates "There must be
no SELinux denial notifications or crash notifications on boot of or
during installation from a release-blocking live image, or at first
login after a default install of a release-blocking desktop." It's
not clear whether this is at all hardware-dependent, but even if it
is, it's clear many people are hitting it, enough to take it as a
blocker (adamw, 17:15:55)
* (1316514) SELinux is preventing colord from 'read' accesses on the
file /etc/udev/hwdb.bin. (adamw, 17:18:34)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1316514 (adamw,
17:18:34)
* Proposed Blocker, selinux-policy, MODIFIED (adamw, 17:18:34)
* AGREED: 1316514 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - clear violation of
"There must be no SELinux denial notifications or crash
notifications on boot of or during installation from a
release-blocking live image, or at first login after a default
install of a release-blocking desktop." (adamw, 17:22:39)
* (1318045) Incorrect keymap when decrypting encrypted partitions
(adamw, 17:23:03)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1318045 (adamw,
17:23:04)
* Proposed Blocker, systemd, NEW (adamw, 17:23:04)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=681250
(pschindl, 17:28:23)
* AGREED: 1318045 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - as described, this is a
clear violation of "If a particular keyboard layout has been
configured for the system, that keyboard layout must be used: ...
When unlocking encrypted storage volumes during boot" (adamw,
17:37:21)
Meeting ended at 17:42:21 UTC.
Action Items
------------
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* adamw (185)
* kparal (53)
* RaphGro (39)
* danofsatx (28)
* jkurik (22)
* pwhalen (21)
* garretraziel (21)
* pschindl (21)
* lbrabec (12)
* satellit_e (10)
* dgilmore (9)
* zodbot (8)
* kparal2 (3)
* lupinix (1)
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