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#ansible-meeting: Testing Working Group
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Meeting started by gundalow at 17:04:05 UTC. The full logs are available
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Meeting summary
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* Agenda https://github.com/ansible/community/issues/114 (gundalow,
17:04:26)
* What should qualify as a destructive test? (gundalow, 17:04:31)
*
https://github.com/ansible/ansible/blob/devel/docs/docsite/rst/dev_guide/te…
(gundalow, 17:04:40)
* Though we may want to change this based on
https://github.com/ansible/ansible/blob/devel/docs/docsite/rst/dev_guide/te…
(gundalow, 17:04:49)
* ACTION: mattclay to clarify in docs what qualifies as a destructive
test (mattclay, 17:49:07)
* ACTION: mattclay to add `destructive` alias to tests as needed
(mattclay, 17:49:27)
* ACTION: mattclay to update ansible-test and tests to make
destructive the default (mattclay, 17:51:45)
* Open Floor (mattclay, 17:57:07)
* LINK:
https://github.com/ansible/ansibullbot/blob/master/ansibullbot/utils/extrac…
(Pilou, 17:59:08)
Meeting ended at 18:11:10 UTC.
Action Items
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* mattclay to clarify in docs what qualifies as a destructive test
* mattclay to add `destructive` alias to tests as needed
* mattclay to update ansible-test and tests to make destructive the
default
Action Items, by person
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* mattclay
* mattclay to clarify in docs what qualifies as a destructive test
* mattclay to add `destructive` alias to tests as needed
* mattclay to update ansible-test and tests to make destructive the
default
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#fedora-diversity: Fedora Diversity Hack Session - Flock 2017 edition
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Meeting started by jwf at 13:38:28 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-diversity/2017-08-31/diversity.201…
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Meeting summary
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* Introduction (jwf, 13:40:58)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Diversity_Events (jwf,
13:43:27)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Diversity_Events (jonatoni,
14:02:37)
* LINK:
https://etherpad.persephone.cloud/p/fedora-diversity-flock-2017-hack-session
(jwf, 14:10:16)
* Events (jwf, 14:11:07)
* Specificity is key - "disability day" won't attract people who don't
see / identify as having a "disability", e.g. for deaf /
hard-of-hearing communities (jwf, 14:12:34)
* === Event organizing strategy === (jwf, 14:39:37)
* Engaging with / reaching out to local tech communities that focus on
underrepresented groups to save our time on organizing and bandwidth
on creating custom events (jwf, 14:40:10)
* Examples: Women Who Code, Black Girls Code, etc. (jwf, 14:40:25)
* Benefits from working with community organizers with lots of
experience in working with specific underrepresented groups (who are
usually always looking for people to deliver free content / info),
saves budget on us creating and executing entire events (meaning we
can do more for less and ideally have similar impact) (jwf,
14:41:41)
* LINK:
https://etherpad.persephone.cloud/p/fedora-diversity-flock-2017-hack-session
(jwf, 14:46:17)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Diversity/Join (jonatoni,
15:13:06)
Meeting ended at 18:05:27 UTC.
Action Items
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* (none)
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#ansible-meeting: Network Working Group
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Meeting started by gundalow at 16:00:51 UTC. The full logs are available
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Meeting summary
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* Open Floor (gundalow, 16:08:23)
* No IRC meetings next week as most staff will be at AnsibleFest SF
(gundalow, 16:08:47)
* LINK:
https://github.com/ansible/ansible/blob/devel/docs/docsite/rst/playbooks_fi…
(privateip, 16:13:15)
* There will be a networking session as part of Contributors Summit
(gundalow, 16:31:28)
* Reminder no IRC meetings next week, see some of you at AnsibleFest
San Francisco (gundalow, 17:26:02)
Meeting ended at 17:26:05 UTC.
Action Items
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* (none)
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* dag1 (27)
* privateip (25)
* itdependsnetwork (8)
* zodbot (6)
* rcarrillocruz (6)
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#gluster-meeting: Community Meeting 2017-08-30
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Meeting started by kshlm at 15:02:33 UTC. The full logs are available at
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Meeting summary
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* Docs updates and long-term strategy (kshlm, 15:07:24)
* New website launching soon: gluster.wpengine.com is the current
staging URL. (kshlm, 15:20:04)
Meeting ended at 15:54:56 UTC.
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
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* nigelb (41)
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#ansible-meeting: ansible public core meeting
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Meeting started by bcoca at 19:05:12 UTC. The full logs are available at
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Meeting summary
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* A common practice I have seen in modules is that the input parameters
are put in the result output dictionary (abadger1999, 19:14:23)
* ACTION: dag to PR a guideline to say "do not place params into the
module's return value" (abadger1999, 19:17:14)
* From time to time new parameters are proposed with the unit as part of
the parameter name, (abadger1999, 19:17:19)
* LINK:
https://github.com/ansible/ansible/issues/20160#issuecomment-272053518
(abadger1999, 19:19:43)
* LINK: https://golang.org/pkg/time/#ParseDuration (sivel, 19:27:08)
* AGREED: no 'unit' postfix on options (bcoca, 19:29:15)
* ACTION: implement duration and datetime types for argspec (bcoca,
19:29:31)
* ACTION: add duration/datetime argtypes to 2.5 roadmap (nitzmahone,
19:30:00)
* ACTION: migrate existing 'unit suffixed' options to aliases and make
'unitless' the main focus (bcoca, 19:30:03)
* required_by (bcoca, 19:31:29)
* LINK: https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/28662 (dag1,
19:31:37)
* ACTION: tabled till 2.5 (bcoca, 19:54:27)
* open floor (bcoca, 19:54:46)
Meeting ended at 20:00:25 UTC.
Action Items
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* dag to PR a guideline to say "do not place params into the module's
return value"
* implement duration and datetime types for argspec
* add duration/datetime argtypes to 2.5 roadmap
* migrate existing 'unit suffixed' options to aliases and make
'unitless' the main focus
* tabled till 2.5
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* dag
* dag to PR a guideline to say "do not place params into the module's
return value"
* **UNASSIGNED**
* implement duration and datetime types for argspec
* add duration/datetime argtypes to 2.5 roadmap
* migrate existing 'unit suffixed' options to aliases and make
'unitless' the main focus
* tabled till 2.5
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#fedora-blocker-review: F27-blocker-review
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Meeting started by adamw at 16:01:19 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2017-08-21/f27-bloc…
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Meeting summary
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* Roll Call (adamw, 16:01:20)
* Introduction (adamw, 16:08:15)
* Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and
nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor
the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have
bugs. (adamw, 16:08:15)
* We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:08:16)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
(adamw, 16:08:16)
* The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:08:17)
* LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw,
16:08:19)
* The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw,
16:08:21)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_27_Alpha_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:08:25)
* LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_27_Beta_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:08:27)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_27_Final_Release_Criteria
(adamw, 16:08:29)
* For the Fedora 27 cycle there is no Alpha release; the first
milestone is Beta. Alpha criteria are all in effect for Beta, until
we change the criteria layout on the wiki. (adamw, 16:09:00)
* 8 Proposed Blockers (Beta), 5 Proposed Blockers (Final) (adamw,
16:09:50)
* 3 Accepted Blockers (Beta), 1 Accepted Blocker (Final) (adamw,
16:10:07)
* kparal will secretarialize (adamw, 16:14:59)
* starting with the proposed Beta blockers (adamw, 16:15:12)
* (1439411) AttributeError: 'LUKS' object has no attribute 'hasKey'
(adamw, 16:15:19)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1439411 (adamw,
16:15:19)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (adamw, 16:15:19)
* current openQA test results indicate this is fixed, we will close it
(adamw, 16:18:29)
* (1470552) Kickstarted Fedora 26 installation always uses public
repositorys (adamw, 16:19:10)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1470552 (adamw,
16:19:10)
* Proposed Blocker, anaconda, MODIFIED (adamw, 16:19:10)
* AGREED: 1470552 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) - this doesn't seem like a
clear enough violation to block the Beta on. We considered it might
be appropriate as a Final blocker, but decided not to make a
decision on that as the fix is imminent in any case (adamw,
16:24:45)
* (1477916) Workstation boot.iso is 1.8 GB, seems to be ostree iso
(adamw, 16:24:53)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1477916 (adamw,
16:24:54)
* Proposed Blocker, distribution, NEW (adamw, 16:24:54)
* AGREED: 1477916 - punt (delay decision) - there was a general
feeling in favour of this being a blocker, but it does not clearly
violate any existing criteria. we're delaying the decision until
there are more folks to help come up with a plan, including release
engineering (adamw, 16:52:30)
* (1483159) Server deployment still sets up Firefox extension, this is
no longer necessary and broken on F27+ (adamw, 16:52:44)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1483159 (adamw,
16:52:45)
* Proposed Blocker, freeipa, NEW (adamw, 16:52:45)
* AGREED: 1483159 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - breaks deployment of
FreeIPA servers, clear violation of Alpha criterion
"Release-blocking roles and the supported role configuration
interfaces must meet the core functional Role Definition
Requirements to the extent that supported roles can be successfully
deployed, started..." for the domain controller role (adamw,
16:56:56)
* (1479825) Install of Fedora 27 Rawhide 20170804.n.1 Workstation live
image fails with the following error - boot loader install failed
(adamw, 16:57:05)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1479825 (adamw,
16:57:05)
* Proposed Blocker, grub2, MODIFIED (adamw, 16:57:05)
* AGREED: 1479825 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this seems to cause all
BIOS live installs to fail, which is a clear violation of several
"must be able to complete an installation" Alpha criteria for the
Workstation and KDE live images (adamw, 17:01:40)
* (1464556) [abrt] PackageKit: pk_backend_refresh_cache_thread():
packagekitd killed by signal 11 (adamw, 17:02:03)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1464556 (adamw,
17:02:03)
* Proposed Blocker, PackageKit, ASSIGNED (adamw, 17:02:03)
* 1464556 - it looks like this is resolved already; indeed latest
openQA test did not run into the crash (though it failed due to a
needle mismatch). we will close this as a duplicate of the resolved
bug (adamw, 17:08:27)
* (1480929) SELinux is preventing journalctl from 'map' accesses on the
file
/var/log/journal/e0215049b3ad4b45be988a3894bb0931/system(a)000555eff2a070fa-00d74fe76412519e.journal~.
(adamw, 17:09:36)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1480929 (adamw,
17:09:36)
* Proposed Blocker, selinux-policy, POST (adamw, 17:09:37)
* 1480929 - testing indicates that selinux-policy 3.13.1-272 resolves
this denial, so we will close this bug as fixed (adamw, 17:15:05)
* (1483170) 'map' denial for comm 'ns-slapd' path
'/run/dirsrv/slapd-DOMAIN-LOCAL.stats' (breaks FreeIPA deployment)
(adamw, 17:16:51)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1483170 (adamw,
17:16:51)
* Proposed Blocker, selinux-policy-targeted, NEW (adamw, 17:16:51)
* AGREED: 1483170 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - breaks deployment of
FreeIPA servers, clear violation of Alpha criterion
"Release-blocking roles and the supported role configuration
interfaces must meet the core functional Role Definition
Requirements to the extent that supported roles can be successfully
deployed, started..." for the domain controller role (adamw,
17:21:00)
* that's all the proposed Beta blockers, moving onto proposed Final
blockers (adamw, 17:21:44)
* all 5 proposed Final blockers are SELinux denials encountered during
boot of several release-blocking package sets (adamw, 17:23:49)
* to speed things up, we will vote on them as a block (adamw,
17:23:57)
* AGREED: 1451377 1451379 1451381 1451385 1459081 - all
AcceptedBlocker (Final) - clear violations of Final criterion "There
must be no SELinux denial notifications or crash notifications on
boot of or during installation from a release-blocking live image,
or at first login after a default install of a release-blocking
desktop." (adamw, 17:28:14)
* LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1438495 was just
marked as an accepted blocker by Dennis back in April, i will ping
him about that one (adamw, 17:29:37)
* Open floor (adamw, 17:33:32)
Meeting ended at 19:24:12 UTC.
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* (none)
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