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Nicosss's meeting titled "Fedora-fr" ended in #fedora-meeting-1
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30 Sep '19

Notification time stamped 2019-09-30 19:05:20 UTC ============================ #fedora-meeting-1: Fedora-fr ============================ Meeting started by Nicosss at 18:41:55 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2019-09-30/fedora-fr.201… . Meeting summary --------------- * Association Borsalinux-fr (Nicosss, 18:42:39) * ACTION: répondre à l'invitation pour parler de Fedora à la Ubuntu Party les 16/17 novembre (Nicosss, 18:47:31) * Fedora-Fr.org (Nicosss, 18:48:57) * ACTION: Aborder le sujet de migrer le Framaboard sous une instance hébergée par Borsalinux suite à fermeture de certains services Framasoft (Nicosss, 18:51:00) * Marketing (Nicosss, 18:52:05) * Documentation (Nicosss, 18:54:30) * ACTION: Nicosss relancer les articles en cours sur la ML (Nicosss, 18:55:37) * Traduction (Nicosss, 18:56:06) * Projet Fedora (Nicosss, 18:57:20) * Premier samedi à la Cité des Sciences (Nicosss, 18:59:13) * POSS (Nicosss, 18:59:48) * ACTION: eseyman faire une annonce sur le forum, le planet et la liste (Nicosss, 19:02:27) * Discussions Libres (Nicosss, 19:03:30) Meeting ended at 19:05:20 UTC. Action Items ------------ * répondre à l'invitation pour parler de Fedora à la Ubuntu Party les 16/17 novembre * Aborder le sujet de migrer le Framaboard sous une instance hébergée par Borsalinux suite à fermeture de certains services Framasoft * Nicosss relancer les articles en cours sur la ML * eseyman faire une annonce sur le forum, le planet et la liste Action Items, by person ----------------------- * eseyman * eseyman faire une annonce sur le forum, le planet et la liste * Nicosss * Nicosss relancer les articles en cours sur la ML * **UNASSIGNED** * répondre à l'invitation pour parler de Fedora à la Ubuntu Party les 16/17 novembre * Aborder le sujet de migrer le Framaboard sous une instance hébergée par Borsalinux suite à fermeture de certains services Framasoft People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * Nicosss (51) * eseyman (24) * zodbot (13) * come_ (4) * kvfy (3) * come (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2019-09-30/fedora-fr.201… -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorapro…

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adamwill's meeting titled "F31-blocker-review" ended in #fedora-blocker-review
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30 Sep '19

Notification time stamped 2019-09-30 18:45:35 UTC ========================================== #fedora-blocker-review: F31-blocker-review ========================================== Meeting started by adamw at 16:00:04 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2019-09-30/f31-bloc… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (adamw, 16:00:04) * Introduction (adamw, 16:06:37) * Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (adamw, 16:06:37) * We'll be following the process outlined at: (adamw, 16:06:37) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (adamw, 16:06:40) * The bugs up for review today are available at: (adamw, 16:06:40) * LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (adamw, 16:06:42) * The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (adamw, 16:06:44) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:06:46) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_31_Beta_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:06:49) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_31_Final_Release_Criteria (adamw, 16:06:50) * for F31 Final, we have: (adamw, 16:06:57) * 12 Proposed Blockers (adamw, 16:06:57) * 7 Accepted Blockers (adamw, 16:06:57) * 3 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (adamw, 16:07:01) * coremodule will secretarialize (adamw, 16:09:26) * we'll start with proposed Final blockers (adamw, 16:09:45) * (1755813) bios boot partition can't be created at the disk beginning, if a partition already exists in the middle of the disk (adamw, 16:09:54) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1755813 (adamw, 16:09:54) * Proposed Blocker, blivet-gui, ASSIGNED (adamw, 16:09:54) * AGREED: 1755813 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a violation of "The installer must be able to create and install to any workable partition layout using any file system and/or container format combination offered in a default installer configuration" for installs done via 'advanced custom' partitioning (adamw, 16:17:40) * (1751103) [abrt] dnf: configure_upgrade(): system_upgrade.py:410:configure_upgrade:TypeError: argument of type 'NoneType' is not iterable (adamw, 16:17:48) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1751103 (adamw, 16:17:49) * Proposed Blocker, dnf, ON_QA (adamw, 16:17:49) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1756105 has more on the gnome-software interaction (adamw, 16:26:27) * AGREED: 1751103 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - as reported in dupe 1756105 it seems this can be triggered simply by running a normal GNOME update, causing the update to fail silently, so this is accepted as a violation of "The installed system must be able appropriately to install, remove, and update software with the default tool for the relevant software type in all release-blocking desktops (e.g. default graphical package manager)..." (adamw, 16:34:01) * (1757089) /usr/lib64/samba/pdb/ipasam.so: undefined symbol: unixid_from_gid, version SAMBA_PASSDB_0.2.0 (adamw, 16:34:12) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1757089 (adamw, 16:34:12) * Proposed Blocker, freeipa, ASSIGNED (adamw, 16:34:12) * AGREED: 1757089 - RejectedBlocker (Final), AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - this is rejected as a blocker as it breaks only if a non-default feature not in the criteria (AD trust) is enabled, but accepted as a freeze exception to help minimize the number of affected upgrades (adamw, 16:39:30) * (1754630) Automatic workspaces are seriously broken (adamw, 16:39:40) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1754630 (adamw, 16:39:40) * Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 16:39:40) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1754630#c12 (frantisekz, 16:43:02) * AGREED: 1754630 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted with reference to both "All elements of the default panel (or equivalent) configuration in all release-blocking desktops must function correctly in typical use" and "All known bugs that can cause corruption of user data must be fixed or documented at Common F31 bugs" (as any Shell crash on Wayland can cause data loss/corruption) (adamw, 16:46:41) * (1755898) numlock handling is seriously broken (adamw, 16:46:47) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1755898 (adamw, 16:46:48) * Proposed Blocker, gnome-shell, NEW (adamw, 16:46:48) * ACTION: bcotton and/or kparal and/or anyone else who feels strongly to propose a criterion for this (adamw, 16:53:40) * AGREED: 1755898 - punt (delay decision) for blocker status, AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - there's some support for blocking on this but it really doesn't seem to violate any current criterion; we agreed to allow time to propose and discuss a new criterion. In the mean time it's accepted as an FE issue as a prominent bug that can't be fixed fully with an update (adamw, 16:55:45) * (1749868) GNOME Software doesn't prepare offline updates (adamw, 16:56:02) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1749868 (adamw, 16:56:02) * Proposed Blocker, gnome-software, NEW (adamw, 16:56:02) * AGREED: 1749868 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - we are still waiting to check the status of this with the dnf default changed back, but to avoid it clogging up the list we're going to assume for now that it'll be fine once that change happens; if it turns out still to be a problem it can be re-proposed (adamw, 17:01:19) * (1703700) Newer kernels do not boot and have invalid grub.cfg entries (adamw, 17:01:37) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1703700 (adamw, 17:01:37) * Proposed Blocker, grub2, NEW (adamw, 17:01:37) * AGREED: 1703700 - punt (delay decision) - the details of the issue here are not yet entirely clear so it's hard to decide if it's a blocker, also we're not sure yet if we intend to complete the criterion change to block only on ec2 rather than all xen guest functionality (adamw, 17:14:17) * (1752961) After upgrading to Fedora 31 got a kernel panic loading 5.3.0 kernel (adamw, 17:14:22) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1752961 (adamw, 17:14:22) * Proposed Blocker, kernel, NEW (adamw, 17:14:22) * AGREED: 1752961 - punt (delay decision) on blocker, AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - this is clearly worthy of an FE, we're not sure if it will affect enough systems to qualify as a blocker yet (adamw, 17:23:14) * (1751646) Images to clipboard don't work, clipboard doesn't contain any data (adamw, 17:23:19) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1751646 (adamw, 17:23:20) * Proposed Blocker, mutter, NEW (adamw, 17:23:20) * LINK: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/issues/789 has more detailed reproduction steps (adamw, 17:28:07) * AGREED: 1751646 - RejectedBlocker (Final) AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - we agreed this is an unfortunate bug but it doesn't clearly violate an existing criterion and we don't think it's serious enough to consider writing a new one. Accepted as an FE as it will affect lives and so cannot be fully fixed with an update (adamw, 17:35:27) * (1750123) blivet unable to use all the usable freespace regions (adamw, 17:35:38) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1750123 (adamw, 17:35:38) * Proposed Blocker, python-blivet, NEW (adamw, 17:35:38) * AGREED: 1750123 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - this seems to be more a design limitation in the custom partitioning UI than a clear bug, and is not a regression; it's not really suitable for treatment as a blocker bug. We'll hold that it doesn't violate the criterion as the installer is not "offering" to create the layout in question (adamw, 17:41:16) * (1755038) VM clipboard integration wipes clipboard contents randomly and frequently (X11 host) (adamw, 17:41:22) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1755038 (adamw, 17:41:22) * Proposed Blocker, spice-vdagent, NEW (adamw, 17:41:22) * AGREED: 1755038 - RejectedBlocker (Final) AcceptedFreezeException (Final) - we think a bug of this nature could conceivably be a blocker under various criteria, but as this one only manifests when using an X11 session (not default in most cases) *and* running a virtual machine, we agreed it's slightly too limited in impact. Accepted as an FE as it can't be fixed for lives with an update (adamw, 17:55:30) * (1755733) Gnome Xorg session stuck immediately after login (adamw, 17:55:41) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1755733 (adamw, 17:55:41) * Proposed Blocker, xorg-x11-server, NEW (adamw, 17:55:41) * ACTION: adamw to send out call for testing on 1755733 (adamw, 18:02:23) * AGREED: 1755733 - punt (delay decision) - so far we can only be sure one system has a problem here; we need to test more systems to assess blocker and FE status (adamw, 18:03:52) * Proposed freeze exceptions (adamw, 18:04:13) * moving onto Proposed freeze exception issues (adamw, 18:04:20) * we already accepted 1757089 earlier (adamw, 18:04:44) * (1754875) nm-connection-editor not available in overview (adamw, 18:04:50) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1754875 (adamw, 18:04:50) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, network-manager-applet, NEW (adamw, 18:04:50) * AGREED: 1754875 - RejectedFreezeException (Final) - we're generally agreed that the risk/reward for changing this during a freeze period would not be worthwhile (adamw, 18:11:47) * (1756024) Qt applications cannot be maximized with double click in title bar (adamw, 18:11:57) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1756024 (adamw, 18:11:57) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, qgnomeplatform, NEW (adamw, 18:11:57) * AGREED: 1756024 - RejectedFreezeException (Final) - we're not aware of any prominent Qt apps on the Workstation live image, so we think this can be fixed just as well with an update as a freeze exception (adamw, 18:21:07) * (1756771) f31 sugar fails to install (adamw, 18:21:43) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1756771 (adamw, 18:21:43) * Proposed Freeze Exceptions, sugar, NEW (adamw, 18:21:43) * AGREED: 1756771 - punt (delay decision) - we believe this should be fixed 'magically' with the next compose as the package was unretired. if not, we will re-evaluate next week (adamw, 18:27:42) * that's all proposed blockers and FEs (adamw, 18:27:54) * Accepted blockers (adamw, 18:27:58) * most accepted blockers are in a straightforward state - mainly waiting on developers (adamw, 18:28:14) * (1747408) Cannot upgrade to Fedora 31: package exa-0.9.0-2.module_f31+5365+04413d87.x86_64 requires libgit2.so.28()(64bit), but none of the providers can be installed (adamw, 18:28:25) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1747408 (adamw, 18:28:26) * Accepted Blocker, distribution, NEW (adamw, 18:28:26) * ACTION: bcotton to follow up on 1747408 and try to get some movement (adamw, 18:31:43) * (1752249) Revert skip_if_unavailable default back to true (adamw, 18:31:52) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1752249 (adamw, 18:31:52) * Accepted Blocker, dnf, ASSIGNED (adamw, 18:31:52) * this seems fairly straightforward but has been hanging for weeks (adamw, 18:32:14) * ACTION: adamw and bcotton to prod dnf team into taking care of 1752249 (adamw, 18:32:35) * (1728240) Cannot start Fedora-KDE-Live (F31) in basic graphics mode on BIOS machine (adamw, 18:34:04) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1728240 (adamw, 18:34:04) * Accepted Blocker, sddm, NEW (adamw, 18:34:04) * there is one pretty clear-cut issue here, that sddm simply fails to start when doing a BIOS nomodeset boot, but there doesn't seem to be clear progress towards a resolution (adamw, 18:34:45) * ACTION: frantisekz to file an upstream report for #1728240 (adamw, 18:36:40) * Open floor (adamw, 18:37:47) Meeting ended at 18:45:35 UTC. Action Items ------------ * bcotton and/or kparal and/or anyone else who feels strongly to propose a criterion for this * adamw to send out call for testing on 1755733 * bcotton to follow up on 1747408 and try to get some movement * adamw and bcotton to prod dnf team into taking care of 1752249 * frantisekz to file an upstream report for #1728240 Action Items, by person ----------------------- * adamw * adamw to send out call for testing on 1755733 * adamw and bcotton to prod dnf team into taking care of 1752249 * bcotton * bcotton and/or kparal and/or anyone else who feels strongly to propose a criterion for this * bcotton to follow up on 1747408 and try to get some movement * adamw and bcotton to prod dnf team into taking care of 1752249 * frantisekz * frantisekz to file an upstream report for #1728240 * kparal * bcotton and/or kparal and/or anyone else who feels strongly to propose a criterion for this * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * adamw (337) * frantisekz (106) * kparal (102) * bcotton (56) * pwhalen (32) * lruzicka (32) * zodbot (23) * coremodule (18) * cmurf (10) * tablepc (9) * Southern_Gentlem (5) * satellit_ (3) * Son_Goku (3) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-blocker-review/2019-09-30/f31-bloc… -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorapro…

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sgallagh's meeting titled "FESCO (2019-09-30)" ended in #fedora-meeting-1
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30 Sep '19

Notification time stamped 2019-09-30 16:59:02 UTC ===================================== #fedora-meeting-1: FESCO (2019-09-30) ===================================== Meeting started by sgallagh at 15:00:12 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2019-09-30/fesco.2019-09… . Meeting summary --------------- * init process (sgallagh, 15:00:12) * #2231 F32 System-Wide Change: Firewalld Default to nftables (sgallagh, 15:03:22) * AGREED: Change is approved. The maintainers of moby-engine are responsible for how that turns out for them. (+6, 0, -1) (sgallagh, 15:32:08) * #2236 Default Stream for Eclipse module (sgallagh, 15:32:25) * LINK: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/uWICYrVLx-nQCYRvrw2Ceg (bookwar, 16:33:34) * LINK: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/Jdobm6RBKrFm5bMk9h13CQ — that's from dnf list --enabled (zbyszek, 16:34:17) * LINK: https://src.fedoraproject.org/modules/maven/blob/3.5/f/maven.yaml#_186 (sgallagh, 16:36:36) * AGREED: 1) have a bug filed and propose it as a blocker for the release 2) figure out details in the bugreport, especially the doble ownership, 3) get fesco to vote again on resolution (+5, 0, -0) (sgallagh, 16:51:21) * #2238 GIMP: exception to continue using Python 2 (sgallagh, 16:51:29) * AGREED: GIMP is granted an exception to continue using Python 2 (+6, 0, -0) (sgallagh, 16:56:55) * Next week's chair (sgallagh, 16:57:03) * ACTION: zbyszek will chair next meeting (sgallagh, 16:57:21) * Open Floor (sgallagh, 16:57:29) Meeting ended at 16:59:02 UTC. Action Items ------------ * zbyszek will chair next meeting Action Items, by person ----------------------- * zbyszek * zbyszek will chair next meeting * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * sgallagh (125) * mhroncok (78) * nirik (70) * mbooth (56) * zbyszek (55) * bookwar (43) * zodbot (20) * jforbes (16) * otaylor (15) * mhroncok_mobile1 (5) * bookwar1 (2) * ignatenkobrain (0) * contyk (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2019-09-30/fesco.2019-09… -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorapro…

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Goneri's meeting titled "VMware weekly sync" ended in #ansible-vmware
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30 Sep '19

Notification time stamped 2019-09-30 16:23:51 UTC =================================== #ansible-vmware: VMware weekly sync =================================== Meeting started by Goneri at 16:03:05 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-vmware/2019-09-30/vmware_weekly_s… . Meeting summary --------------- Meeting ended at 16:23:51 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * zodbot (7) * Goneri (4) * mariolenz (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/ansible-vmware/2019-09-30/vmware_weekly_s… -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorapro…

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adamwill's meeting titled "Fedora QA Meeting" ended in #fedora-meeting
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30 Sep '19

Notification time stamped 2019-09-30 16:04:13 UTC ================================== #fedora-meeting: Fedora QA Meeting ================================== Meeting started by adamw at 15:02:48 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-09-30/fedora-qa.2019-… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (adamw, 15:02:58) * Previous meeting follow-up (adamw, 15:06:50) * "adamw to create and fill out common bugs page" - that's done, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F31_bugs (adamw, 15:07:23) * "adamw to add a short note to each relevant wiki page (automatic blockers and 'last minute' blockers) to explain the relationship between them" - also done, see https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process&diff… (adamw, 15:08:05) * "adamw to resolve all discontinuities" - also done, unfortunately there were some minor side effects like exploding bcottons (adamw, 15:08:37) * Fedora 31 status (adamw, 15:12:57) * there aren't any huge break-the-world bugs in F31 right now really, but there are *lots* of outstanding blockers, which worries us a bit (adamw, 15:17:08) * ACTION: adamw to check with desktop team that they're confident about resolving all the outstanding GNOME-related blockers (adamw, 15:17:41) * Final freeze is on October 8, so we have just over a week till then (adamw, 15:21:35) * Criteria proposals status (adamw, 15:23:34) * xen/ec2 proposal: on hold till f31 cycle is complete, but for F31 let's make sure we *do* work on ec2 (adamw, 15:29:13) * btrfs proposal: also on hold till f31 cycle is complete, fortunately we have no known btrfs install issues at present (adamw, 15:30:13) * podman / container management proposal status: waiting on dustymabe to respond to all feedback (adamw, 15:30:51) * proposal to move image size criterion from Beta to Final: dropped for now, may be revived if we still have problems with this in future (adamw, 15:31:39) * ACTION: adamw to go ahead and add the basic desktop background criterion to 'automatic blockers' as that proposal received no objections (adamw, 15:32:15) * Test Day / community event status, onboarding call planning (adamw, 15:39:16) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2019-09-30_Kernel_5.3_Test_Week (sumantrom, 15:40:08) * LINK: http://testdays.fedorainfracloud.org/events/73 (sumantrom, 15:40:58) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1752961 is causing kernel panic in a lot of systems (sumantrom, 15:41:36) * kernel 5.3 test week is ongoing at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2019-09-30_Kernel_5.3_Test_Week (adamw, 15:45:26) * onboarding call scheduling is being worked out at present, please reply to https://forms.gle/DzP7q45Tfvv52BSz7 with your availability if you're interested in joining (adamw, 15:52:38) * this time we will try to run an IRC onboarding meeting alongside the call (adamw, 15:55:15) * Open floor (adamw, 15:59:25) * blocker review meeting will start in 10 seconds in #fedora-blocker-review (adamw, 15:59:47) Meeting ended at 16:04:13 UTC. Action Items ------------ * adamw to check with desktop team that they're confident about resolving all the outstanding GNOME-related blockers * adamw to go ahead and add the basic desktop background criterion to 'automatic blockers' as that proposal received no objections Action Items, by person ----------------------- * adamw * adamw to check with desktop team that they're confident about resolving all the outstanding GNOME-related blockers * adamw to go ahead and add the basic desktop background criterion to 'automatic blockers' as that proposal received no objections * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * adamw (79) * zodbot (16) * sumantrom (15) * kparal (12) * tablepc (11) * satellit_ (9) * lruzicka (7) * bcotton (4) * coremodule (4) * dustymabe (3) * cmurf (3) * frantisekz (3) * linuxmodder (2) * nirik (1) * sumantro (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2019-09-30/fedora-qa.2019-… -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorapro…

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mcatanzaro's meeting titled "Workstation WG" ended in #fedora-meeting-2
by notifications＠fedoraproject.org 30 Sep '19

30 Sep '19

Notification time stamped 2019-09-30 14:03:40 UTC ================================= #fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG ================================= Meeting started by mcatanzaro at 13:00:27 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2019-09-30/workstation.2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll call (mcatanzaro, 13:00:34) * Attendance (mcatanzaro, 13:09:20) * ACTION: aday to create a ticket to continue this discussion (mcatanzaro, 13:30:24) * Automatically install the OpenH264 codecs (mcatanzaro, 13:31:43) * LINK: https://paste.gnome.org/potu4skdo (mcatanzaro, 13:33:42) * ACTION: cschalle to comment in ticket and look into question about license terms (mcatanzaro, 13:34:16) * Workstation repos are not available for Branched and Rawhide (mcatanzaro, 13:34:30) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/102 (petersen, 13:36:16) * ACTION: cschalle to ping repo maintainers (mcatanzaro, 13:41:22) * Workstation x86_64 live image is over size target (mcatanzaro, 13:42:17) * Ship fedora-workstation-repositories on install media (mcatanzaro, 13:51:22) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/106 < mailing list discussion (etc) (aday, 13:51:38) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/105 (petersen, 13:54:38) * Open floor (mcatanzaro, 13:59:55) * LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/76#comment-598430 (cmurf, 13:59:59) Meeting ended at 14:03:40 UTC. Action Items ------------ * aday to create a ticket to continue this discussion * cschalle to comment in ticket and look into question about license terms * cschalle to ping repo maintainers Action Items, by person ----------------------- * aday * aday to create a ticket to continue this discussion * cschalle * cschalle to comment in ticket and look into question about license terms * cschalle to ping repo maintainers * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * mcatanzaro (79) * petersen (54) * aday (22) * cmurf (21) * zodbot (17) * otaylor (13) * langdon (8) * cschalle (6) * sgallagh (4) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2019-09-30/workstation.2… -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorapro…

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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2019-09-26 16:00 - 17:00 UTC)
by Miro Hrončok 26 Sep '19

26 Sep '19

====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by mhroncok at 16:00:07 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2019-09-26/fpc.2019-09-2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (mhroncok, 16:00:07) * Open Floor (mhroncok, 16:08:35) * SELinux people approached me to ask what they can do to move https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/pull-request/814 forward (mhroncok, 16:09:30) * Schedule (mhroncok, 16:18:11) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org… (mhroncok, 16:18:17) * #902 Cleanup & enhance spec files (mhroncok, 16:18:25) * LINK: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/902 (mhroncok, 16:18:25) * We should document that man pages are automatically marked as %doc and the packagers don't need to mark them as such (mhroncok, 16:30:04) * #904 Caret versioning (mhroncok, 16:31:24) * LINK: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/904 (mhroncok, 16:31:25) * #907 Which %__foo macros for executables are acceptable? (mhroncok, 16:35:50) * LINK: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/907 (mhroncok, 16:35:50) * we should revisit our use of %__* macros in the guidelines, at least (possibly removing it where appropriate) (mhroncok, 16:38:15) * ACTION: mhroncok to update the https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-rpm-macros/pull-request/27 in a line of what was said on this meeting (tl;dr use %python3, %python3_version, %python3_sitearch... to GET information, redefine %__python3 to SET information) (mhroncok, 16:47:36) * #909 Suggest that linting/measuring-coverage is not for %check (mhroncok, 16:47:50) * LINK: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/909 (mhroncok, 16:47:50) * LINK: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/909#comment-584794 (decathorpe, 16:48:59) * AGREED: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/909#comment-584794 (+5,0,-0) (mhroncok, 16:50:36) * #914 Automatic R runtime dependencies (mhroncok, 16:50:53) * LINK: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/914 (mhroncok, 16:50:53) * LINK: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/914#comment-588089 (mhroncok, 16:52:52) * We'd like to see an example about filtering the extra suggest, so we can document it (mhroncok, 16:58:37) * FPC has no problem with dangling suggests as long as approved by legal and FESCo (mhroncok, 16:59:10) * Open Floor (mhroncok, 16:59:41) Meeting ended at 17:00:59 UTC. Action Items ------------ * mhroncok to update the https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-rpm-macros/pull-request/27 in a line of what was said on this meeting (tl;dr use %python3, %python3_version, %python3_sitearch... to GET information, redefine %__python3 to SET information) Action Items, by person ----------------------- * mhroncok * mhroncok to update the https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-rpm-macros/pull-request/27 in a line of what was said on this meeting (tl;dr use %python3, %python3_version, %python3_sitearch... to GET information, redefine %__python3 to SET information) * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * mhroncok (106) * tibbs (35) * decathorpe (21) * zodbot (18) * ignatenkobrain (14) * limburgher (5) * jlebon (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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churchyard's meeting titled "fpc" ended in #fedora-meeting-1
by notifications＠fedoraproject.org 26 Sep '19

26 Sep '19

Notification time stamped 2019-09-26 17:00:59 UTC ====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by mhroncok at 16:00:07 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2019-09-26/fpc.2019-09-2… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (mhroncok, 16:00:07) * Open Floor (mhroncok, 16:08:35) * SELinux people approached me to ask what they can do to move https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/pull-request/814 forward (mhroncok, 16:09:30) * Schedule (mhroncok, 16:18:11) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org… (mhroncok, 16:18:17) * #902 Cleanup & enhance spec files (mhroncok, 16:18:25) * LINK: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/902 (mhroncok, 16:18:25) * We should document that man pages are automatically marked as %doc and the packagers don't need to mark them as such (mhroncok, 16:30:04) * #904 Caret versioning (mhroncok, 16:31:24) * LINK: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/904 (mhroncok, 16:31:25) * #907 Which %__foo macros for executables are acceptable? (mhroncok, 16:35:50) * LINK: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/907 (mhroncok, 16:35:50) * we should revisit our use of %__* macros in the guidelines, at least (possibly removing it where appropriate) (mhroncok, 16:38:15) * ACTION: mhroncok to update the https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-rpm-macros/pull-request/27 in a line of what was said on this meeting (tl;dr use %python3, %python3_version, %python3_sitearch... to GET information, redefine %__python3 to SET information) (mhroncok, 16:47:36) * #909 Suggest that linting/measuring-coverage is not for %check (mhroncok, 16:47:50) * LINK: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/909 (mhroncok, 16:47:50) * LINK: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/909#comment-584794 (decathorpe, 16:48:59) * AGREED: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/909#comment-584794 (+5,0,-0) (mhroncok, 16:50:36) * #914 Automatic R runtime dependencies (mhroncok, 16:50:53) * LINK: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/914 (mhroncok, 16:50:53) * LINK: https://pagure.io/packaging-committee/issue/914#comment-588089 (mhroncok, 16:52:52) * We'd like to see an example about filtering the extra suggest, so we can document it (mhroncok, 16:58:37) * FPC has no problem with dangling suggests as long as approved by legal and FESCo (mhroncok, 16:59:10) * Open Floor (mhroncok, 16:59:41) Meeting ended at 17:00:59 UTC. Action Items ------------ * mhroncok to update the https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-rpm-macros/pull-request/27 in a line of what was said on this meeting (tl;dr use %python3, %python3_version, %python3_sitearch... to GET information, redefine %__python3 to SET information) Action Items, by person ----------------------- * mhroncok * mhroncok to update the https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/python-rpm-macros/pull-request/27 in a line of what was said on this meeting (tl;dr use %python3, %python3_version, %python3_sitearch... to GET information, redefine %__python3 to SET information) * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * mhroncok (106) * tibbs (35) * decathorpe (21) * zodbot (18) * ignatenkobrain (14) * limburgher (5) * jlebon (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2019-09-26/fpc.2019-09-2… -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorapro…

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MeWjOr's meeting titled "NeuroFedora 2019-09-26" ended in #fedora-neuro
by notifications＠fedoraproject.org 26 Sep '19

26 Sep '19

Notification time stamped 2019-09-26 16:04:17 UTC ===================================== #fedora-neuro: NeuroFedora 2019-09-26 ===================================== Meeting started by MeWjOr at 15:01:22 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-neuro/2019-09-26/neurofedora.2019-… . Meeting summary --------------- * Agenda Summary (MeWjOr, 15:02:47) * https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/neuro-sig@lists.fedoraproject… (MeWjOr, 15:03:16) * Introductions and roll call (MeWjOr, 15:03:25) * Tasks from last meeting (MeWjOr, 15:03:38) * Pagure tickets (MeWjOr, 15:03:48) * Bugs (MeWjOr, 15:03:53) * Neuroscience query of the week (MeWjOr, 15:04:01) * Open floor (MeWjOr, 15:04:05) * Introductions and roll call (MeWjOr, 15:04:26) * Tasks from last meeting on 2019-09-12 (MeWjOr, 15:07:03) * Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-neuro/2019-09-19/neurofedora.2019-… (MeWjOr, 15:07:36) * FranciscoD to close #274 on Pagure : Pending (MeWjOr, 15:07:52) * Closed #274 now (FranciscoD, 15:08:34) * FranciscoD add zotero and Jabref to docs : Done (MeWjOr, 15:08:59) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1741624 offtopic (I finish it the weekend) (LoKoMurdoK, 15:09:59) * FranciscoD file ticket with infra requesting fedorapeople space to host our test lab image : Done (MeWjOr, 15:10:01) * https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/issue/8225 -> we have /project/neuro-sig now on fedorapeople at https://fedorapeople.org/groups/neuro-sig/ (FranciscoD, 15:10:30) * FranciscoD poke/ping comps PR in 2 weeks. : Done (MeWjOr, 15:11:33) * FranciscoD write OSB workshop event report : Pending (MeWjOr, 15:12:30) * Everyone try: `sudo dnf groupinstall --with-optional "Neuron Modelling Simulators" --skip-broken` (FranciscoD, 15:12:44) * fedorapeople access to neuro-sig space is given to those in the neuro-sig FAS group only (FranciscoD, 15:13:28) * So you must be a packager also to use this space (since that is a requirement of the neuro-sig FAS group) (FranciscoD, 15:13:53) * Pagure tickets (MeWjOr, 15:15:42) * Pagure tickets marked for this meeting: https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issues?status=Open&tags=S%3A+Next+m… (MeWjOr, 15:16:27) * Issue #294: Add modelling groups to the docs - https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/294 (MeWjOr, 15:16:51) * zbyszek will look into the bug with moose. (MeWjOr, 15:21:59) * Issue #246: Policy - To support or not to support non free tools - https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/246 (MeWjOr, 15:22:46) * AGREED: Only list non FOSS if no FOSS alternatives are available (MeWjOr, 15:27:10) * ACTION: MeWjoR Update the issue on Pagure and close it (MeWjOr, 15:27:37) * Issue #274: Flock conference reports - https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/274 (MeWjOr, 15:28:50) * Issue #250: Figure out badges rule to award badge automatically to pagure group members - NeuroFedora - waiting on Badges #678 (MeWjOr, 15:29:25) * https://pagure.io/fedora-badges/issue/678#comment-59773 (MeWjOr, 15:31:35) * PR#410: Add neuro-fedora related groups and categories - fedora-comps - https://pagure.io/fedora-comps/pull-request/410 (MeWjOr, 15:33:41) * ACTION: FranciscoD add dnf groupinstall command to docs (FranciscoD, 15:34:31) * Open bugs (MeWjOr, 15:35:09) * Open bugs: https://tinyurl.com/neurofedora-bugs (MeWjOr, 15:35:17) * New bug: Broken dependency of moose - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1754997 (MeWjOr, 15:36:11) * ACTION: LoKoMurdoK will work on some update bugs (MeWjOr, 15:36:53) * If you are working on update bugs, please change the status to "ASSIGNED" and "take" the bug---so everyone knows who is working on what (FranciscoD, 15:37:52) * Neuroscience query of the week (MeWjOr, 15:40:57) * Let's go though the paper shared here, and we will discuss it in the next meeting. https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issue/293 (MeWjOr, 15:46:27) * Next meeting time and chair (MeWjOr, 15:46:58) * ACTION: bt0 will chair the next meeting (MeWjOr, 15:54:09) * we will have the next meeting on 2019-10-03 same time (MeWjOr, 15:54:51) * ACTION: bt0 Send a meeting reminder on devel ML on Tuesday (MeWjOr, 15:55:19) * ACTION: bt0 setup an agenda -- head over to pagure tickets and mark the ones that need to be discussed (MeWjOr, 15:56:02) * ACTION: bt0 Ping folks here about an hour earler. (MeWjOr, 15:56:26) * Open floor (MeWjOr, 15:56:51) * ACTION: bt0 will upload a working lab image and mail the list (FranciscoD, 16:02:04) Meeting ended at 16:04:17 UTC. Action Items ------------ * MeWjoR Update the issue on Pagure and close it * FranciscoD add dnf groupinstall command to docs * LoKoMurdoK will work on some update bugs * bt0 will chair the next meeting * bt0 Send a meeting reminder on devel ML on Tuesday * bt0 setup an agenda -- head over to pagure tickets and mark the ones that need to be discussed * bt0 Ping folks here about an hour earler. * bt0 will upload a working lab image and mail the list Action Items, by person ----------------------- * bt0 * bt0 will chair the next meeting * bt0 Send a meeting reminder on devel ML on Tuesday * bt0 setup an agenda -- head over to pagure tickets and mark the ones that need to be discussed * bt0 Ping folks here about an hour earler. * bt0 will upload a working lab image and mail the list * FranciscoD * FranciscoD add dnf groupinstall command to docs * LoKoMurdoK * LoKoMurdoK will work on some update bugs * **UNASSIGNED** * MeWjoR Update the issue on Pagure and close it People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * MeWjOr (136) * FranciscoD (93) * zodbot (33) * LoKoMurdoK (17) * bt0 (16) * mhough (14) * fm-neuro (6) * zbyszek (4) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-neuro/2019-09-26/neurofedora.2019-… -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorapro…

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smooge's meeting titled "Infrastructure (2019-09-26)" ended in #fedora-meeting-1
by notifications＠fedoraproject.org 26 Sep '19

26 Sep '19

Notification time stamped 2019-09-26 15:59:45 UTC ============================================== #fedora-meeting-1: Infrastructure (2019-09-26) ============================================== Meeting started by smooge at 15:04:57 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2019-09-26/infrastructur… . Meeting summary --------------- * aloha (smooge, 15:04:57) * Next chair (smooge, 15:06:27) * magic eight ball says: (smooge, 15:06:27) * cverna will chair the next meeting (smooge, 15:07:30) * New folks introductions (smooge, 15:07:38) * This is a place where people who are interested in Fedora Infrastructure can introduce themselves (smooge, 15:07:38) * Getting Started Guide: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/GettingStarted (smooge, 15:07:38) * announcements and information (smooge, 15:10:42) * We are looking for people to maintain Fedocal and Nuancier - mkonecny (smooge, 15:10:42) * Koschei prod was moved to OpenSift - mizdebsk (mizdebsk, 15:10:50) * Final freeze starts soon (smooge, 15:10:52) * Oncall (smooge, 15:14:39) * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Oncall (smooge, 15:14:39) * Summary of last week: (from bowlofeggs ) (smooge, 15:14:39) * nirik is on call 2019-09-26 -> 2019-10-03 (smooge, 15:18:36) * cverna is on call 2019-10-03 -> 2019-10-10 (smooge, 15:19:50) * pingou is on call 2019-10-10->2019-10-17 (smooge, 15:20:24) * smooge is on call 2019-10-17->2019-10-?? (smooge, 15:20:35) * Monitoring discussion (smooge, 15:22:04) * https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios (smooge, 15:22:04) * Go over existing out items and fix (smooge, 15:22:04) * Monitoring discussion (smooge, 15:24:50) * https://nagios.fedoraproject.org/nagios (smooge, 15:24:50) * Go over existing out items and fix (smooge, 15:24:50) * backlog discussion (smooge, 15:25:21) * go over our backlog and discuss and determine priority (smooge, 15:25:21) * Fedora CoreOS related tickets (smooge, 15:51:31) * for 2019-09-26 meeting (smooge, 15:51:31) * https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/blob/master/Fedora-Requests… (smooge, 15:51:31) * Open Floor (smooge, 15:53:06) * LINK: https://hackmd.io/5uB7hOJKSjGUt65iLgPnbA (dustymabe, 15:54:53) Meeting ended at 15:59:45 UTC. Action Items ------------ Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * nirik (80) * smooge (67) * cverna (20) * pingou (20) * dustymabe (15) * zodbot (11) * mkonecny (7) * mizdebsk (7) * mboddu (3) * relrod (2) * bowlofeggs (1) * austinpowered (1) * tflink (0) * abompard (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2019-09-26/infrastructur… -- You received this message due to your preference settings at https://apps.fedoraproject.org/notifications/fmnmeetingminutes.id.fedorapro…

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