Hi Aaron,
Just noticed that Mono-Zeroconf bundles NDesk.DBus (I'm not the Fedora maintainer for it, and just noticed since due to a glibc bug, we're having to turn off all but the AvahiDBus transport).
Since this, unfortunately, is not allowed (without special approval) in our packages, I'm thinking of updating our system NDesk.DBus to incorporate your patches. Do you happen to know who maintains NDesk.DBus right now? The copyright notice is unfortunately totally out of date (2006!)
Also, is there any compatibility problem (beyond ABI changes) introduced by your changes?
I guess we'd have to think up a new version number too..
Thanks,
Looping in upstream and peer packaging lists.
On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 19:25 -0400, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote:
Hi Aaron,
Just noticed that Mono-Zeroconf bundles NDesk.DBus (I'm not the Fedora maintainer for it, and just noticed since due to a glibc bug, we're having to turn off all but the AvahiDBus transport).
Since this, unfortunately, is not allowed (without special approval) in our packages, I'm thinking of updating our system NDesk.DBus to incorporate your patches. Do you happen to know who maintains NDesk.DBus right now? The copyright notice is unfortunately totally out of date (2006!)
Also, is there any compatibility problem (beyond ABI changes) introduced by your changes?
I guess we'd have to think up a new version number too..
Thanks,
2009/10/23 Michel Alexandre Salim salimma@fedoraproject.org
Hi Aaron,
Just noticed that Mono-Zeroconf bundles NDesk.DBus (I'm not the Fedora maintainer for it, and just noticed since due to a glibc bug, we're having to turn off all but the AvahiDBus transport).
Since this, unfortunately, is not allowed (without special approval) in our packages, I'm thinking of updating our system NDesk.DBus to incorporate your patches. Do you happen to know who maintains NDesk.DBus right now? The copyright notice is unfortunately totally out of date (2006!)
Alp Toker is still upstream for ndesk-dbus - I believe there is work
ongoing on a new release but slowly.
Also, is there any compatibility problem (beyond ABI changes) introduced by your changes?
I guess we'd have to think up a new version number too..
Thanks,
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2009/10/23 David Nielsen gnomeuser@gmail.com:
2009/10/23 Michel Alexandre Salim salimma@fedoraproject.org
Hi Aaron,
Just noticed that Mono-Zeroconf bundles NDesk.DBus (I'm not the Fedora maintainer for it, and just noticed since due to a glibc bug, we're having to turn off all but the AvahiDBus transport).
Since this, unfortunately, is not allowed (without special approval) in our packages, I'm thinking of updating our system NDesk.DBus to incorporate your patches. Do you happen to know who maintains NDesk.DBus right now? The copyright notice is unfortunately totally out of date (2006!)
Alp Toker is still upstream for ndesk-dbus - I believe there is work ongoing on a new release but slowly.
Yes; bug filed here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ndesk-dbus/+bug/458687
What disturbs me is that there does not appear to be an attempt by either Zeroconf and Sugar# to upstream their patches; meanwhile, Zeroconf ships with an internal copy (bad!) and Sugar# persuaded Fedora, somehow, to change the public interface of NDesk.DBus without an API bump.
2009/10/23 Michel Alexandre Salim michael.silvanus@gmail.com
2009/10/23 David Nielsen gnomeuser@gmail.com:
2009/10/23 Michel Alexandre Salim salimma@fedoraproject.org
Hi Aaron,
Just noticed that Mono-Zeroconf bundles NDesk.DBus (I'm not the Fedora maintainer for it, and just noticed since due to a glibc bug, we're having to turn off all but the AvahiDBus transport).
Since this, unfortunately, is not allowed (without special approval) in our packages, I'm thinking of updating our system NDesk.DBus to incorporate your patches. Do you happen to know who maintains NDesk.DBus right now? The copyright notice is unfortunately totally out of date (2006!)
Alp Toker is still upstream for ndesk-dbus - I believe there is work
ongoing
on a new release but slowly.
Yes; bug filed here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ndesk-dbus/+bug/458687
What disturbs me is that there does not appear to be an attempt by either Zeroconf and Sugar# to upstream their patches; meanwhile, Zeroconf ships with an internal copy (bad!) and Sugar# persuaded Fedora, somehow, to change the public interface of NDesk.DBus without an API bump.
When I originally spoke to the sugar guys in relation to their patch they said that they had submitted patches to upstream, this one was a critical fix for them with a test case attached, it also withstood testing for a while without gathering complaints so it felt safe. I judged that allowing Mono development on Sugar was a worthwhile benefit for the risk such a change presented especially given it was my understanding the patch was bound upstream.
I think the issue is an overextended maintainer and a project that fundamentally works in it's current form.
- David
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