packaging November 2014

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arched BuildRequires?
by Björn Esser 28 Jan '15

28 Jan '15

Hi there! I have a question about this review: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889261 Is it ok to havearched BuildRequires? In my opinion they should NOT be arched, because of the reasons given in the comments of the bug. Cheers, Björn

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Soft dependencies guidelines
by Miroslav Suchý 06 Jan '15

06 Jan '15

Hi, rpm 4.12, which include soft dependencies landed in F21. Are there plan to reflect this in our current Packaging Guidelines? Or we will wait till this feature will be recognized by dnf, PackageKit and others? -- Miroslav Suchy, RHCE, RHCDS Red Hat, Senior Software Engineer, #brno, #devexp, #fedora-buildsys

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vim add-on and arch-dependent-file-in-usr-share
by Michele Baldessari 24 Nov '14

24 Nov '14

Hi all, I am packaging vim-unite [1] and vim-proc [2] (will submit review BZs some later time). vim-proc needs a shared object for its functionality and places it here: /usr/share/vim/vimfiles/autoload/vimproc_unix.so Since /usr/share is generally for arch-independent data [3], I thought this was a no-no (rpmlint complains with arch-dependent-file-in-usr-share). I did notice that at least pitivi, coccinelle and rubygem-gherkin all ship such .so files under /usr/share so I wondered if this is tolerated when it makes sense (arch-independent plugins which also need a shared object) or should I see if there are different approaches ? >From a quick look on Debian as well, I could not find a single VIM plugin that ships a .so file, so I'd need to see where I'd actually place it. Create /usr/lib64/vim/add-ons/vim-proc or something similar? This will probably need some coordination with the vim maintainers in such case. Any thoughts on this? cheers, Michele [1] http://acksyn.org/files/rpms/vim-unite/ [2] http://acksyn.org/files/rpms/vim-proc/ [3] http://www.linuxbase.org/betaspecs/fhs/fhs.html#usrshareArchitectureindepen… -- Michele Baldessari <michele(a)acksyn.org> C2A5 9DA3 9961 4FFB E01B D0BC DDD4 DCCB 7515 5C6D

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Packaging of /usr/share/doc/{%name}-{%version} directories not 100% clear
by Alexander Todorov 21 Nov '14

21 Nov '14

Hi guys, I was looking into bug #1114586 and it reveals a significant number (400+) of RPM packages which leave empty directories under /usr/share/doc when installed with --excludedocs. I've looked at a few of them and they had either %dir %{_docdir}/%{name}-%{version} %doc %{_docdir}/%{name}-%{version}/some_file or %doc %{_docdir}/%{name}-%{version} in their spec files. The ones which don't leave behind empty directories specify only the documentation files, not the name-version directories as part of the file list. In my test all 400+ directories under /usr/share/doc are empty, no files in them. Obviously we don't need these directories either. It is very likely people who use --excludedocs will complain about these empty directories as well. The Packaging Guide doesn't say anything about these name-version directories, whether they should be specified in the spec file or only the indivisual files specified. I'd like to hear your opinion on this packaging situation before I go ahead and file hundreds of bugs into Bugzilla. Thanks, Alex

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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2014-11-20 17:00 - 18:30 UTC)
by James Antill 20 Nov '14

20 Nov '14

====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by geppetto at 17:00:23 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014-11-20/fpc.2014-11-20… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (geppetto, 17:00:23) * #469 Unified bootstrapping (geppetto, 17:01:49) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/469 (geppetto, 17:01:54) * LINK: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/d2nV4zZM5V (mirek-hm, 17:38:13) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/469 ... section "Bootstrapping" ... %{!? with_bootstrap: %global bootstrap 1} (racor, 17:48:29) * ACTION: Unified bootstrapping, with edits during meeting. (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 18:06:41) * Open Floor (geppetto, 18:07:48) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/14 (tibbs|w, 18:13:51) Meeting ended at 18:30:09 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Unified bootstrapping, with edits during meeting. (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Unified bootstrapping, with edits during meeting. (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * geppetto (76) * mirek-hm (33) * tibbs|w (30) * mbooth (26) * racor (16) * tomspur (13) * orionp (11) * zodbot (10) * Rathann (9) * limburgher (8) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-11-20 17:00 UTC)
by James Antill 19 Nov '14

19 Nov '14

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2014-11-20 17:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2014-11-20 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PST 2014-11-20 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EST 2014-11-20 17:00 Thu UTC <- 2014-11-20 17:00 Thu Europe/London <- 2014-11-20 18:00 Thu Europe/Paris CET 2014-11-20 18:00 Thu Europe/Berlin CET 2014-11-20 22:30 Thu Asia/Calcutta IST ------------------new day---------------------- 2014-11-21 01:00 Fri Asia/Singapore SGT 2014-11-21 01:00 Fri Asia/Hong_Kong HKT 2014-11-21 02:00 Fri Asia/Tokyo JST 2014-11-21 03:00 Fri Australia/Brisbane EST Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/12 = Followups = #topic #382 Go Packaging Guidelines Draft .fpc 382 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/382 (more info. needed) #topic #454 Bundling exception for php-phpoffice-phpexcel .fpc 454 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/454 (needed policy, feature not accepted yet) #topic #466 recommend Privatedevices and PrivateNetwork in systemd guidelines .fpc 466 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/466 (needinfo, just package dep?) #topic #468 Temporary modernizr packing exception for kimchi .fpc 468 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/468 = New business = #topic #469 Unified bootstrapping .fpc 469 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/469 = Open Floor = For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/12 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fpc, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2014-11-13 17:00 - 18:40 UTC)
by James Antill 13 Nov '14

13 Nov '14

====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by geppetto at 17:01:19 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014-11-13/fpc.2014-11-13… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (geppetto, 17:01:20) * #467 Consider requiring all files in /usr to be world-readable (geppetto, 17:06:06) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/467 (geppetto, 17:06:15) * LINK: http://fpaste.org/150547/89981314/ (tibbs, 17:30:28) * LINK: http://fpaste.org/150558/01488141/ (geppetto, 17:58:30) * #468 Temporary modernizr packing exception for kimchi (geppetto, 18:14:12) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/468 (geppetto, 18:14:18) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1126990 is the review for kimchi (orionp, 18:16:24) * ACTION: Just package modernizr, instead of bundling it. (geppetto, 18:17:33) * ACTION: If still desire to bundle it, please answer the std. bundling questions. (geppetto, 18:18:02) * Open Floor (geppetto, 18:18:16) * #471 Bootstrap exception for Gradle (geppetto, 18:21:13) * ACTION: Bootstrap exception for Gradle (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 18:27:30) * Open Floor (geppetto, 18:27:36) * LINK: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/activemq-cpp.git/tree/activemq-cpp.spec?… :/ (tomspur, 18:31:18) Meeting ended at 18:40:18 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Just package modernizr, instead of bundling it. * If still desire to bundle it, please answer the std. bundling questions. * Bootstrap exception for Gradle (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Just package modernizr, instead of bundling it. * If still desire to bundle it, please answer the std. bundling questions. * Bootstrap exception for Gradle (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * geppetto (94) * tibbs (53) * Rathann (29) * orionp (17) * mbooth (16) * tomspur (16) * limburgher (15) * racor (13) * zodbot (11) * SmootherFrOgZ (2) * jsmith (2) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-11-13 17:00 UTC)
by James Antill 12 Nov '14

12 Nov '14

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2014-11-13 17:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2014-11-13 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PST 2014-11-13 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EST 2014-11-13 17:00 Thu UTC <- 2014-11-13 17:00 Thu Europe/London <- 2014-11-13 18:00 Thu Europe/Paris CET 2014-11-13 18:00 Thu Europe/Berlin CET 2014-11-13 22:30 Thu Asia/Calcutta IST ------------------new day---------------------- 2014-11-14 01:00 Fri Asia/Singapore SGT 2014-11-14 01:00 Fri Asia/Hong_Kong HKT 2014-11-14 02:00 Fri Asia/Tokyo JST 2014-11-14 03:00 Fri Australia/Brisbane EST Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/12 = Followups = #topic #382 Go Packaging Guidelines Draft .fpc 382 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/382 (more info. needed) #topic #454 Bundling exception for php-phpoffice-phpexcel .fpc 454 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/454 (needed policy, feature not accepted yet) #topic #466 recommend Privatedevices and PrivateNetwork in systemd guidelines .fpc 466 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/466 = New business = #topic #467 Consider requiring all files in /usr to be world-readable .fpc 467 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/467 #topic #468 Temporary modernizr packing exception for kimchi .fpc 468 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/468 = Open Floor = For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/12 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fpc, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-11-06 17:00 UTC)
by James Antill 06 Nov '14

06 Nov '14

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2014-11-06 17:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2014-11-06 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PST 2014-11-06 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EST 2014-11-06 17:00 Thu UTC <- 2014-11-06 17:00 Thu Europe/London <- 2014-11-06 18:00 Thu Europe/Paris CET 2014-11-06 18:00 Thu Europe/Berlin CET 2014-11-06 22:30 Thu Asia/Calcutta IST ------------------new day---------------------- 2014-11-07 01:00 Fri Asia/Singapore SGT 2014-11-07 01:00 Fri Asia/Hong_Kong HKT 2014-11-07 02:00 Fri Asia/Tokyo JST 2014-11-07 03:00 Fri Australia/Brisbane EST Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/12 = Followups = #topic #382 Go Packaging Guidelines Draft .fpc 382 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/382 (more info. needed) #topic #454 Bundling exception for php-phpoffice-phpexcel .fpc 454 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/454 (needed policy, feature not accepted yet) #topic #466 recommend Privatedevices and PrivateNetwork in systemd guidelines .fpc 466 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/466 = New business = #topic #467 Consider requiring all files in /usr to be world-readable .fpc 467 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/467 #topic #468 Temporary modernizr packing exception for kimchi .fpc 468 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/468 = Open Floor = For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/12 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fpc, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

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Expanding RPM macros
by Peter Lemenkov 02 Nov '14

02 Nov '14

Hello All! One of my packages defines an essential information regarding the API (API version string) during the %build stage. It's possible to extract this information by invoking a binary from the %{buildroot} with certain parameters. I'd love to add this information to the spec-file during to Provides. Something like Provides: %{name}_api_ver = %(%{buildroot}/bin/app --some params) Unfortunately it seems that rpmbuild tries to expand all macros at the very initial stage when this binary isn't available yet (not built yet). I've tied playing with %{eval: ...} but without any luck. Could anyone tell me if it's possible at all? And if possible how could this be achieved? Also I wonder why even rpmbuild -bs performs macro expansion? I thought it should just pack spec-file and sources/patches together. -- With best regards, Peter Lemenkov.

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