packaging September 2014

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arched BuildRequires?
by Björn Esser 28 Jan '15

28 Jan '15

Hi there! I have a question about this review: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889261 Is it ok to havearched BuildRequires? In my opinion they should NOT be arched, because of the reasons given in the comments of the bug. Cheers, Björn

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Soft dependencies guidelines
by Miroslav Suchý 06 Jan '15

06 Jan '15

Hi, rpm 4.12, which include soft dependencies landed in F21. Are there plan to reflect this in our current Packaging Guidelines? Or we will wait till this feature will be recognized by dnf, PackageKit and others? -- Miroslav Suchy, RHCE, RHCDS Red Hat, Senior Software Engineer, #brno, #devexp, #fedora-buildsys

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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2014-09-25 16:00 - 17:15 UTC)
by James Antill 25 Sep '14

25 Sep '14

====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by geppetto at 16:02:04 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014-09-25/fpc.2014-09-25… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (geppetto, 16:02:05) * FPC is not working: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1346 (geppetto, 16:11:50) * Open Floor (geppetto, 16:34:45) * #455 Policy for embedding private copies of valgrind.h (geppetto, 16:36:17) * ACTION: No packages should be bundling valgrind.h, FPC approves bundling requests (exactly so things like this don't happen) and hasn't approved any for valgrind.h. (geppetto, 16:39:18) * ACTION: Open BZs against the packages. If bundling is requested/approved, then the packages should have "Provides: bundled(valgrind.h)" (geppetto, 16:41:11) * #453 Changes/SystemdSysusers updates for Packaging:UsersAndGroups (geppetto, 16:42:26) * Open Floor (geppetto, 16:53:59) Meeting ended at 17:12:57 UTC. Action Items ------------ * No packages should be bundling valgrind.h, FPC approves bundling requests (exactly so things like this don't happen) and hasn't approved any for valgrind.h. * Open BZs against the packages. If bundling is requested/approved, then the packages should have "Provides: bundled(valgrind.h)" Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * No packages should be bundling valgrind.h, FPC approves bundling requests (exactly so things like this don't happen) and hasn't approved any for valgrind.h. * Open BZs against the packages. If bundling is requested/approved, then the packages should have "Provides: bundled(valgrind.h)" People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * geppetto (78) * tibbs|w (30) * nirik (25) * zodbot (6) * RemiFedora (2) * tibbs (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Open Seats on the Fedora Packaging Committee
by Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski 24 Sep '14

24 Sep '14

The Fedora Packaging Committee has two open seats and is accepting submissions from interested candidates to serve on the FPC. This position involves not only reviewing Packaging Guideline drafts submitted to the FPC for consideration, but also rewriting drafts (sometimes from scratch) to resolve the issue in a more acceptable fashion. Additionally, the FPC reviews bundling exceptions (and UID/GID soft static assignment). The FPC meets on IRC weekly, Wednesdays at 1600 UTC, for approximately an hour. FPC members serve for as long as they are willing, there are currently no term limits. All decisions are voted on using a +1 (for), 0 (abstain), and -1 (against) mechanism, and all decisions must be approved by a majority (+5). FPC Meetings do not happen if quorum (5) is not present. Candidates who are interested should provide the following details to the FPC for consideration, by emailing it directly to me (dominik(a)greysector.net). The FPC will consider all candidates, but strongly prefers candidates who have extensive experience packaging in Fedora. We will accept applications for the next week (deadline Wednesday Oct 1, 2014). Name: FAS Account: Provenpackager? (Yes/No): Main area of packaging interest/expertise: Reason(s) for willing to join the FPC: Thanks in advance, Dominik -- Fedora http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Rathann RPMFusion http://rpmfusion.org "Faith manages." -- Delenn to Lennier in Babylon 5:"Confessions and Lamentations"

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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-09-25 16:00 UTC)
by James Antill 24 Sep '14

24 Sep '14

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2014-09-25 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2014-09-25 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PDT 2014-09-25 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EDT 2014-09-25 16:00 Thu UTC <- 2014-09-25 17:00 Thu Europe/London BST 2014-09-25 18:00 Thu Europe/Paris CEST 2014-09-25 18:00 Thu Europe/Berlin CEST 2014-09-25 21:30 Thu Asia/Calcutta IST ------------------new day---------------------- 2014-09-26 00:00 Fri Asia/Singapore SGT 2014-09-26 00:00 Fri Asia/Hong_Kong HKT 2014-09-26 01:00 Fri Asia/Tokyo JST 2014-09-26 02:00 Fri Australia/Brisbane EST Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/12 = Followups = (comment #16 is the current winner) #topic #341 How to replace "docker" package with an entirely different package of the same name? .fpc 341 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/341 #topic #382 Go Packaging Guidelines Draft .fpc 382 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/382 (more info. needed) #topic #452 Crypto policies packaging guideline .fpc 452 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/452 (needs votes) #topic #453 Changes/SystemdSysusers updates for Packaging:UsersAndGroups .fpc 453 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/453 (more info. needed) #topic #454 Bundling exception for php-phpoffice-phpexcel .fpc 454 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/454 = New business = #topic #455 Policy for embedding private copies of valgrind.h .fpc 455 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/455 = Open Floor = For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/12 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fpc, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

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Re: [Fedora-packaging] Source0 for github ?
by Jeff Backus 22 Sep '14

22 Sep '14

> > interesting, I used a different commit id today and it works. > However if I use the instructions on the page to get the right commit > it doesn't. > > Ie if I use git rev-parse $TAG I get a commit id which will not work > when substituted above. Intead if I do git log -1 $TAG and use the > commit id of the tagged commit it works. > I wonder if the instructions have always been wrong or if they change > something subtler in github and now only the tag ids do not work > anymore ... > > Hi Simo, Interesting. I can't speak to the use of get rev-parse vs. git log since I always grabbed the commit hash from the webpage (I know, I know, I'll hand in my l33t h4x0r card next meeting, I swear). Regards, Jeff -- Jeff Backus jeff.backus(a)gmail.com http://github.com/jsbackus

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Source0 for github ?
by Simo Sorce 22 Sep '14

22 Sep '14

I was looking at this: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:SourceURL?rd=Packaging/SourceURL#G… But it doesn't look like the URL constructed with these instructions lead to a download-able tarball. I guess Github has changed things again, is there any new guideline for Github Sources ? What I can see is that while this: https://github.com/$OWNER/$PROJECT/archive/%{commit}/$PROJECT-%{commit}.tar… does not work, this: https://github.com/$OWNER/$PROJECT/archive/%{commit}.tar.gz works, and the content headers tell the browser that the file name should be $PROJECT-%{commit}.tar.gz Any direction would be appreciated. Simo. -- Simo Sorce * Red Hat, Inc * New York

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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2014-09-11 16:00 - 17:45 UTC)
by James Antill 11 Sep '14

11 Sep '14

====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by geppetto at 16:03:01 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2014-09-11/fpc.2014-09-11… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (geppetto, 16:03:02) * #448 Copylib exception for fastlz (geppetto, 16:15:40) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/448 (geppetto, 16:15:45) * CLOSED. * #454 Bundling exception for php-phpoffice-phpexcel (geppetto, 16:16:39) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/454 (geppetto, 16:16:44) * #452 Crypto policies packaging guideline (geppetto, 16:17:20) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/452 (geppetto, 16:17:25) * Need more info. about the configuration files, what they look like, where they'd be located, etc. (geppetto, 16:28:00) * We need some kind of number on how many packages this would affect. 6 affected would be different than 666. (geppetto, 16:55:18) * Worries that if security team can't be the gatekeepers, then random reviewers wouldn't be good gatekeepers either. (geppetto, 16:56:00) * Also, as a quick example, PHP seems non-trivial to make compliant with this proposal … and it's not obvious how upstream would react if it was changed. (geppetto, 16:56:43) * #453 Changes/SystemdSysusers updates for Packaging:UsersAndGroups (geppetto, 16:57:12) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/453 (geppetto, 16:57:17) * ACTION: Needs votes: #453 Small number of packages to test new sysusers user creation code (+1:4, 0:1, -1:0) (systemd marketing joy gets the non-pass, atm.) (geppetto, 17:28:29) * Open Floor (geppetto, 17:29:34) Meeting ended at 17:45:43 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Needs votes: #453 Small number of packages to test new sysusers user creation code (+1:4, 0:1, -1:0) (systemd marketing joy gets the non-pass, atm.) Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Needs votes: #453 Small number of packages to test new sysusers user creation code (+1:4, 0:1, -1:0) (systemd marketing joy gets the non-pass, atm.) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * geppetto (89) * Rathann (24) * tibbs|w (21) * walters (18) * racor (17) * RemiFedora (15) * zodbot (7) * sgallagh (4) * tibbs (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-09-11 16:00 UTC)
by James Antill 11 Sep '14

11 Sep '14

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2014-09-11 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2014-09-11 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PDT 2014-09-11 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EDT 2014-09-11 16:00 Thu UTC <- 2014-09-11 17:00 Thu Europe/London BST 2014-09-11 18:00 Thu Europe/Paris CEST 2014-09-11 18:00 Thu Europe/Berlin CEST 2014-09-11 21:30 Thu Asia/Calcutta IST ------------------new day---------------------- 2014-09-12 00:00 Fri Asia/Singapore SGT 2014-09-12 00:00 Fri Asia/Hong_Kong HKT 2014-09-12 01:00 Fri Asia/Tokyo JST 2014-09-12 02:00 Fri Australia/Brisbane EST Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/12 = Followups = (approval and retirement sections already passed, /opt exception passed, basename passed) #topic #339 software collections in Fedora .fpc 339 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/339 (comment #16 is the current winner) #topic #341 How to replace "docker" package with an entirely different package of the same name? .fpc 341 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/341 #topic #382 Go Packaging Guidelines Draft .fpc 382 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/382 (more votes needed, or defer to FESCO?) #topic #444 Officially recommend to releng that SCLs be placed in separate packages rather than separate branches in git .fpc 444 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/444 (speak to memcached upstream/maintainer, everyone happier if it was a real lib.) #topic #448 Copylib exception for fastlz .fpc 448 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/448 (more info. needed) #topic #454 Bundling exception for php-phpoffice-phpexcel .fpc 454 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/454 = New business = #topic #452 Crypto policies packaging guideline .fpc 452 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/452 #topic #453 Changes/SystemdSysusers updates for Packaging:UsersAndGroups .fpc 453 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/453 = Open Floor = For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/12 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fpc, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

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Language file handling in Django packages
by Matthias Runge 11 Sep '14

11 Sep '14

Hello, recently, I stumbled upon the question, how to handle django.mo and django.po files in Django packages. I haven't been able to find anything about that. In my understanding, django projects provide translations in django.po files, and most projects provide django.mo files as well. The latter are produced by compiling the former. So, ideally, this compile step would be executed during package build, right? What about .po files? Do we have a policy to ship them? Or don't we? Currently, most (all) Django packages remove them in %prep section. I found a single bug about this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=529188 Thoughts? -- Matthias Runge <mrunge(a)matthias-runge.de>

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