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Proposal: Remove BuildRequires: exceptions from the guidelines
by Jason L Tibbitts III 08 May '15

08 May '15

TL;DR: There's a proposal for nuking the list of BuildRequires exceptions from the packaging guidelines. Important note: this is just an idea. We're not currently changing the guidelines based on this. Nothing is set in stone. It may end up that nothing happens. Don't panic. A couple of times recently, people have floated proposals to the FPC about removing certain things from the buildroot. (Specifically, perl and gcc*.) And the bottom line for these is that while FPC tries to maintain a list of BuildRequires: exceptions, this is really up to releng and whatever rpm happens to pull in at any particular time. This means that whatever list FPC maintains, it's going to get outdated eventually, and giving packagers the idea that they don't have to actually specify all of their dependencies restricts what releng can do and, perhaps, what dependencies the RPM package can drop without breaking builds. So, the generally stated proposal: I would like to get FPC out of the business of specifying this list of exceptions, and instead just indicate that packagers should completely specify their dependencies. My specific proposal can be seen in https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/497; the draft is at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tibbs/BuildReqDraft2. You can use the history tab to see the differences between that and the current guidelines. Now, the real issue is in what packagers can depend upon. Obviously you have RPM and an environment necessary to build a package (which means you have to have a shell to execute the scripts that make up the RPM sections, and redhat-rpm-config, and whatever RPM happens to use to execute %patch, which I guess could be some internal library if the RPM devs wanted). But what else? That's the open question. The draft currently says: --- You may assume that you have everything necessary for RPM to function and process your spec file (so of course RPM is present, along with redhat-rpm-config and what is necessary for RPM to apply patches, unpack archives, and run the shell scripts which make up the spec file sections.) You should not assume any other packages are present, as RPM dependencies and anything brought into the buildroot by the build system may change over time. --- Honestly, I'm not completely satisfied with that but I can't come up with anything better. Polite discussion is welcomed and encouraged. - J<

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questions about license file migration
by Björn Persson 02 Mar '15

02 Mar '15

Hi, I'm working to update my packages to use %license, and I have two questions: 1: Must license files be placed in /usr/share/licenses/<package>, or is it only required that they are tagged as license files in the package? For example, if a package's build system installs a license in /usr/share/doc/<package>, is the spec required to move it from there to /usr/share/licenses/<package>, or is it enough to tag it with %license in the file list? 2: When a package has a list of authors separate from the license file, should that list also be tagged as a license file, or is it considered regular documentation? It seems to me that *who* gives out a license is important information that belongs together with the license. Björn Persson

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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2015-02-26 17:00 - 18:20 UTC)
by James Antill 26 Feb '15

26 Feb '15

====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by geppetto at 17:01:00 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2015-02-26/fpc.2015-02-26… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (geppetto, 17:01:01) * Schedule (geppetto, 17:04:17) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/packaging/2015-February/010483.ht… (geppetto, 17:04:23) * #501 Fix bootstrap guidelines (geppetto, 17:05:08) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/501 (geppetto, 17:05:12) * ACTION: Proposal: Reverse conditionals in bootstrap examples, to make it less confusing (+1:7, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 17:13:49) * #435 %py3dir not removed by rpmbuild --clean (geppetto, 17:13:58) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/435 (geppetto, 17:14:03) * ACTION: Policy change to remove py3dir from python policy (+1:6, 0:1, -1:0) (geppetto, 17:22:30) * ACTION: Extra note about copies (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 17:39:12) * #338 %doc and %_pkgdocdir duplicate files and cause conflicts (geppetto, 17:39:21) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/338 (geppetto, 17:39:26) * ACTION: %doc and %_pkgdocdir duplicate files and cause conflicts (+1:6, 0:0, -1:1) (geppetto, 17:58:15) * #325 Temporary bundling exception of yajl library (geppetto, 17:58:28) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/325 (geppetto, 17:58:33) * ACTION: Can you carry the patches within Fedora, to use the system library from ruby and alter jajl? If not we need a clearer timeline on when upstream is going to do something. (geppetto, 18:14:46) * Open Floor (geppetto, 18:15:15) Meeting ended at 18:20:40 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Proposal: Reverse conditionals in bootstrap examples, to make it less confusing (+1:7, 0:0, -1:0) * Policy change to remove py3dir from python policy (+1:6, 0:1, -1:0) * Extra note about copies (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) * %doc and %_pkgdocdir duplicate files and cause conflicts (+1:6, 0:0, -1:1) * Can you carry the patches within Fedora, to use the system library from ruby and alter jajl? If not we need a clearer timeline on when upstream is going to do something. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Proposal: Reverse conditionals in bootstrap examples, to make it less confusing (+1:7, 0:0, -1:0) * Policy change to remove py3dir from python policy (+1:6, 0:1, -1:0) * Extra note about copies (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) * %doc and %_pkgdocdir duplicate files and cause conflicts (+1:6, 0:0, -1:1) * Can you carry the patches within Fedora, to use the system library from ruby and alter jajl? If not we need a clearer timeline on when upstream is going to do something. People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * geppetto (79) * Rathann (36) * tibbs (32) * tomspur (23) * racor (17) * orionp (16) * zodbot (10) * limburgher (10) * mbooth (7) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2015-02-26 17:00 UTC) Followup:7 New:1
by James Antill 25 Feb '15

25 Feb '15

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2015-02-26 17:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2015-02-26 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PST 2015-02-26 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EST 2015-02-26 17:00 Thu UTC <- 2015-02-26 17:00 Thu Europe/London <- 2015-02-26 18:00 Thu Europe/Paris CET 2015-02-26 18:00 Thu Europe/Berlin CET 2015-02-26 22:30 Thu Asia/Calcutta IST ------------------new day---------------------- 2015-02-27 01:00 Fri Asia/Singapore SGT 2015-02-27 01:00 Fri Asia/Hong_Kong HKT 2015-02-27 02:00 Fri Asia/Tokyo JST 2015-02-27 03:00 Fri Australia/Brisbane EST Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/13 = Followups = #topic #126 bundling exception for scintilla .fpc 126 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/126 #topic #248 python-feedgenerator - a standalone version of a bundled library .fpc 248 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/248 #topic #303 Consider reverting decision to ban %{?_isa} in BuildRequires .fpc 303 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/303 #topic #325 Temporary bundling exception of yajl library .fpc 325 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/325 #topic #338 %doc and %_pkgdocdir duplicate files and cause conflicts .fpc 338 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/338 #topic #435 %py3dir not removed by rpmbuild --clean .fpc 435 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/435 #topic #497 Clean up BuildRequires section; don't try to define the minimal build env .fpc 497 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/497 = New business = #topic #501 Fix bootstrap guidelines .fpc 501 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/501 = Open Floor = For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/13 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fpc, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

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rpmbuild changes in Fedora 23 Rawhide?
by Michael Schwendt 24 Feb '15

24 Feb '15

Been running into a Rawhide rebuild failure caused by a strangely packaged libcanberra-devel: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/1195363 First observation: The -devel package does not explicitly depend on all three library base packages. => Two of the three .so symlinks on the -devel pkg point to non-existing targets. Closer look: There used to be _automatic_ Requires on the library SONAMEs. Those are missing in the recently rebuilt libcanberra-devel package. Is this an expected change in rpmbuild for Rawhide?

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Can %license be inside folder specified in %doc?
by Miro Hrončok 24 Feb '15

24 Feb '15

Hi, consider the foollowing %files section %files %license %{_datadir}/%{name}/docs/LICENSE %doc %{_datadir}/%{name}/docs Is it OK? Building the RPM nly generates warning about a file being listed twice. Rpmlint is silent. The thing I want to avoid is to use the following instead: %files %license %{_datadir}/%{name}/docs/LICENSE %doc %{_datadir}/%{name}/docs/every %doc %{_datadir}/%{name}/docs/other %doc %{_datadir}/%{name}/docs/file %doc %{_datadir}/%{name}/docs/in %doc %{_datadir}/%{name}/docs/here %doc %{_datadir}/%{name}/docs/one %doc %{_datadir}/%{name}/docs/by %doc %{_datadir}/%{name}/docs/1 Thanks for your help. -- Miro Hrončok -- Phone: +420777974800 IRC: mhroncok

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Few questions regarding spec file standard
by Eric Griffith 24 Feb '15

24 Feb '15

Hey everyone, first message to the mailing list and a new packager in general. I've gone over the wiki and the docs but a few things are still unclear to me. 1) rpmlint complains about source0 not being a valid URL, but it rpmbuild can't find the source if I have it correct... Currently it says: Source0: https://github.com/01org/thermal_daemon/archive/v%{version}.tar.gz But when I do "rpmbuild -ba thermal_daemon.spec" (following Fedora Documentation http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora_Draft_Documentation/0.1/html/RPM… ) then rpmbuild complains about: error: File /home/egriffith/rpmbuild/SOURCES/v1.30.tar.gz: No such file or directory presumably because its just looking at "v%{version}.tar.gz". What is the appropriate fix here? The upstream source is in fact: https://github.com/01org/thermal_daemon/archive/v%{version}.tar.gz (in this case v1.30.tar.gz) but the download link gives you "thermal_daemon-1.3.tar.gz" which is in my SOURCES directory. So do I rename thermal_daemon-1.3.tar.gz to be "v1.30.tar.gz" or do I modify "Source0" to not be 100% faithful to the actual URL? Or is there an override I can use to specify that the downloaded files have a different name than the upstream source URL? 2) %build section. The original spec file had 'autoreconf' the compilation instructions had ./autogen.sh. Which is the correct one to use? Current spec uses autogen.sh 3) Is a "BuildRequires: systemd" necessary or is it just redundant? 4) Can someone link or explain the Requires(post)/(preun)/(postun), same with %post, %preun, %postun 5) %files does every single file need to be listed here or just 'important ones? I left out /usr/share/src, /usr/lib and a couple others. 6) Upstream name is "thermal_daemon" but I see it packaged elsewhere as "thermald" and the binary / .service is thermald. Preference goes to...?

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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2015-02-19 17:00 - 18:45 UTC)
by James Antill 19 Feb '15

19 Feb '15

====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by geppetto at 17:00:46 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2015-02-19/fpc.2015-02-19… . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (geppetto, 17:00:46) * Schedule (geppetto, 17:04:19) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/packaging/2015-February/010471.ht… (geppetto, 17:04:21) * #492 Reverse weak dependencies (geppetto, 17:04:37) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/492 (geppetto, 17:04:43) * ACTION: Create a real policy in the ticket, probably as a new page that is linked to, using the information provided by the dnf maintainer. Include examples for packagers, and how to change the dnf settings. (geppetto, 17:21:33) * ACTION: Also include "normal" weak deps., so we can at least make sure they both line up correctly. Although we'll probably vote on them separately. (geppetto, 17:22:25) * #493 Bundling exception: python-execnet bundles python-apipkg (geppetto, 17:23:12) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/493 (geppetto, 17:23:35) * ACTION: apipkg is in rawhide, check back if you need anything else. If we don't hear anything we'll close the ticket in a few weeks. (geppetto, 17:32:17) * #495 Proposal: Package Guidelines: PreupgradeAssistant contents packages (geppetto, 17:32:26) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/495 (geppetto, 17:32:30) * ACTION: PreupgradeAssistant contents packages (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 17:57:49) * LINK: https://github.com/phracek/preupgrade-assistant (tibbs|w, 17:57:55) * #497 Clean up BuildRequires section; don't try to define the minimal build env (geppetto, 18:01:03) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/497 (geppetto, 18:01:09) * ACTION: tibbs Tweak email with feedback and post again, will look at voting on something next week. (geppetto, 18:13:45) * #498 Seeking guidance: Apps using default Python in Fedora vs. EPEL (geppetto, 18:14:02) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/498 (geppetto, 18:14:08) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tomspur/Unversioned_Python_Macros#Bytec… (tibbs|w, 18:26:51) * ACTION: Apps using default Python in Fedora vs. EPEL (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 18:28:12) * Open Floor (geppetto, 18:28:35) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/packaging/2015-February/010471.ht… … we've got 7 anchient tickets (geppetto, 18:29:52) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/221 (tibbs|w, 18:30:36) * #221 Bundling exception request: numptyphysics and Box2D (geppetto, 18:31:02) * LINK: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/221 (geppetto, 18:31:10) * ACTION: retiring package, so doesn't matter. (geppetto, 18:33:54) * Open Floor (geppetto, 18:34:44) Meeting ended at 18:45:42 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Create a real policy in the ticket, probably as a new page that is linked to, using the information provided by the dnf maintainer. Include examples for packagers, and how to change the dnf settings. * Also include "normal" weak deps., so we can at least make sure they both line up correctly. Although we'll probably vote on them separately. * apipkg is in rawhide, check back if you need anything else. If we don't hear anything we'll close the ticket in a few weeks. * PreupgradeAssistant contents packages (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) * tibbs Tweak email with feedback and post again, will look at voting on something next week. * Apps using default Python in Fedora vs. EPEL (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) * retiring package, so doesn't matter. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Create a real policy in the ticket, probably as a new page that is linked to, using the information provided by the dnf maintainer. Include examples for packagers, and how to change the dnf settings. * Also include "normal" weak deps., so we can at least make sure they both line up correctly. Although we'll probably vote on them separately. * apipkg is in rawhide, check back if you need anything else. If we don't hear anything we'll close the ticket in a few weeks. * PreupgradeAssistant contents packages (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) * tibbs Tweak email with feedback and post again, will look at voting on something next week. * Apps using default Python in Fedora vs. EPEL (+1:6, 0:0, -1:0) * retiring package, so doesn't matter. People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * geppetto (121) * tibbs|w (113) * tomspur (34) * mbooth (19) * limburgher (19) * orionp (10) * zodbot (8) * hhorak (2) * tomspur_ (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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[rfc][icedtea-web] make threads in ResourceTracker's ExecutorService daemon
by Jiri Vanek 19 Feb '15

19 Feb '15

As described in http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/distro-pkg-dev/2015-February/030792.… (long thread) javaws do not close. The reason is that the trheads in ExecutorService are never shut down. One solution is to make them daemn (attached) I prefer this solution above others described in the thread. J.

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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2015-02-19 17:00 UTC) Followup:12 New:0
by James Antill 19 Feb '15

19 Feb '15

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2015-02-19 17:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2015-02-19 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PST 2015-02-19 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EST 2015-02-19 17:00 Thu UTC <- 2015-02-19 17:00 Thu Europe/London <- 2015-02-19 18:00 Thu Europe/Paris CET 2015-02-19 18:00 Thu Europe/Berlin CET 2015-02-19 22:30 Thu Asia/Calcutta IST ------------------new day---------------------- 2015-02-20 01:00 Fri Asia/Singapore SGT 2015-02-20 01:00 Fri Asia/Hong_Kong HKT 2015-02-20 02:00 Fri Asia/Tokyo JST 2015-02-20 03:00 Fri Australia/Brisbane EST Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/13 = Followups = #topic #492 Reverse weak dependencies .fpc 492 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/492 #topic #493 Bundling exception: python-execnet bundles python-apipkg .fpc 493 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/493 #topic #495 Proposal: Package Guidelines: PreupgradeAssistant contents packages .fpc 495 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/495 #topic #497 Clean up BuildRequires section; don't try to define the minimal build env .fpc 497 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/497 #topic #498 Seeking guidance: Apps using default Python in Fedora vs. EPEL .fpc 498 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/498 = Ye Ancient tickets (zombie followups) = #topic #126 bundling exception for scintilla .fpc 126 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/126 #topic #221 Bundling exception request: numptyphysics and Box2D .fpc 221 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/221 #topic #248 python-feedgenerator - a standalone version of a bundled library .fpc 248 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/248 #topic #303 Consider reverting decision to ban %{?_isa} in BuildRequires .fpc 303 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/303 #topic #325 Temporary bundling exception of yajl library .fpc 325 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/325 #topic #338 %doc and %_pkgdocdir duplicate files and cause conflicts .fpc 338 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/338 #topic #435 %py3dir not removed by rpmbuild --clean .fpc 435 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/435 = Open Floor = For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/13 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fpc, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

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