packaging November 2016

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Re: Broken dependencies: vim-syntastic
by Pavel Raiskup 14 Nov '16

14 Nov '16

On Wednesday, September 21, 2016 12:16:39 PM CEST buildsys(a)fedoraproject.org wrote: > vim-syntastic has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: > On aarch64: > vim-syntastic-lisp-3.7.0-6.fc26.noarch requires clisp > On aarch64: > vim-syntastic-cs-3.7.0-6.fc26.noarch requires mono-core > On aarch64: > vim-syntastic-d-3.7.0-6.fc26.noarch requires ldc > On armhfp: > vim-syntastic-d-3.7.0-6.fc26.noarch requires ldc > Please resolve this as soon as possible. What's should packager do in such case? Recap: noarch package depends on arch-dependant package, which is not available everywhere. Pavel

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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2016-09-22 17:00 UTC)
by Jason L Tibbitts III 09 Nov '16

09 Nov '16

Note the time change! Also note that James is out this week so I'll be bumbling the way through the meeting process. Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2016-11-03 17:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. (Local time info omitted at I can't make rktime give me the output James uses.) = New Tickets = There have been no new tickets this week. = Pending business = #topic #650 Suggested Change for Python Guidelines about Alternate Python Interpreters .fpc 650 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/650 #topic #656 pre/post-release version guidelines need major simplification for the git era .fpc 656 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/656 #topic #657 Keeping packager tooling in sync with our guidelines .fpc 657 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/657 = Open Floor = For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/13 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fpc, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

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Summary/Minutes from today's FPC Meeting (2016-11-03 16:00 - 17:25 UTC)
by James Antill 03 Nov '16

03 Nov '16

====================== #fedora-meeting-1: fpc ====================== Meeting started by geppetto at 16:00:18 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2016-11-03/fpc.2016- 11-03-16.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * Roll Call (geppetto, 16:00:19) * Schedule (geppetto, 16:05:59) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/packaging@lists.fedor aproject.org/message/AN2CB4KC25BIUHZ2SVHKK34GVQXU3JJE/ (geppetto, 16:06:01) * #650 Alternate Python Interpreters (geppetto, 16:09:28) * ACTION: Packages to add leaf-only(%name) = %version to not be required by other packages (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) (geppetto, 16:15:28) * "No package can Require or BuildRequire any package that provides "leaf-only" (geppetto, 16:24:52) * #657 Keeping packager tooling in sync with our guidelines (geppetto, 16:36:07) * Open Floor (geppetto, 17:01:19) Meeting ended at 17:28:44 UTC. Action Items ------------ * Packages to add leaf-only(%name) = %version to not be required by other packages (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) Action Items, by person ----------------------- * **UNASSIGNED** * Packages to add leaf-only(%name) = %version to not be required by other packages (+1:5, 0:0, -1:0) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * tibbs (126) * geppetto (112) * orionp (26) * limburgher (18) * zodbot (14) * Rathann (8) * racor (7) * mbooth (3) * handsome_pirate (2) * mboddu (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2016-11-03 16:00 UTC)
by James Antill 02 Nov '16

02 Nov '16

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2016-11-03 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2016-11-03 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PDT 2016-11-03 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EDT 2016-11-03 16:00 Thu UTC <- 2016-11-03 16:00 Thu Europe/London <- 2016-11-03 17:00 Thu Europe/Paris CET 2016-11-03 17:00 Thu Europe/Berlin CET 2016-11-03 21:30 Thu Asia/Calcutta IST ------------------new day---------------------- 2016-11-04 00:00 Fri Asia/Singapore SGT 2016-11-04 00:00 Fri Asia/Hong_Kong HKT 2016-11-04 01:00 Fri Asia/Tokyo JST 2016-11-04 02:00 Fri Australia/Brisbane AEST Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/13 = Followups = #topic #398 Tilde in version .fpc 398 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/398 #topic #558 Application/Library distinction and package splitting .fpc 558 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/558 #topic #610 Packaging guidelines: Check upstream tarball signatures .fpc 610 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/610 #topic #650 Alternate Python Interpreters .fpc 650 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/650 #topic #654 glibc file triggers .fpc 654 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/654 #topic #655 meson buildsystem guidelines .fpc 655 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/655 #topic #656 pre/post-release version guidelines need major simplification .fpc 656 https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/656 = Open Floor = For more complete details, please visit each individual ticket. The report of the agenda items can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/report/13 If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fpc, e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during the open floor topic. Note that added topics may be deferred until the following meeting.

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Re: Many directories without owning packages
by Dridi Boukelmoune 02 Nov '16

02 Nov '16

Hi, This is mass bug filing material, I have been under the weather shortly after the first message on this thread but I have made more progress now. Enough to CC the packaging list too. On Fri, Oct 7, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski <dominik(a)greysector.net> wrote: > On Thursday, 06 October 2016 at 18:58, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I was surprised to see /usr/share/texlive on my system although I >> remembered very well removing it months ago. It turned out to be >> caused by two rpmsave files, although some *empty* directories weren't >> removed: > [...] > That's normal rpm behaviour. It only deletes directories if they're > owned by the removed package and empty. It was so obvious after you pointed it out that not figuring it out myself felt quite embarrassing :) >> But then I decided to check my whole /usr tree and found more orphans >> than I expected. > > Feel free to open bugs against the offending packages. Complete file and > directory ownership is mandated in the packaging guidelines. Around the same time I had two ongoing reviews and realized that the fedora-review tool warns about incomplete ownership inside built packages, so I figured I could do something with DNF's filenames databases via repoquery or something else. However this approach has a high space and time complexity, because for every single binary package it must check that all directories are owned by the package or one of its dependencies with the exception of directories owned by the filesystems package (and maybe others?) So instead I wrote a proof of concept shell script that relies on installed RPMs, because unless you purposefully install packages with missing dependencies, a missing ownership of a directory _with owned contents_ is evidence of a packaging bug. The script took about 30 minutes to run on my laptop, so I rewrote it in bash to avoid forking and got below the 10 minutes mark. I then added some cute reporting capabilities. Example output for the /boot sub-tree on my daily driver: grub2-efi-2.02-0.34.fc24.x86_64 └── /boot/efi/EFI/fedora mactel-boot-0.9-13.fc24.x86_64 ├── /boot/efi/.VolumeIcon.icns ├── /boot/efi/System/Library/CoreServices/SystemVersion.plist ├── /boot/efi/System/Library/CoreServices/boot.efi └── /boot/efi/mach_kernel shim-0.8-9.x86_64 ├── /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI └── /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT/fallback.efi For each package, the files that are listed have at least one parent directory not owned. Example's first culprits: $ sudo rpm -qf /boot /boot/efi /boot/efi/EFI filesystem-3.2-37.fc24.x86_64 file /boot/efi is not owned by any package file /boot/efi/EFI is not owned by any package For my RPMs sample, results are incomplete because: - legacy pre-UsrMove paths are ignored - symbolic links aren't followed - no dependencies check I did check dozens of results to refine the exceptions until I could no longer find a false positive at random. The overall algorithm is dead simple, so simple that I could implement it in bourne shell. It overlooks many cases and probably has a high false-negative rate, but even with such limitations the results are telling. On my system, I found 2991 files "not fully owned" in 354 packages: $ egrep '^\W' not-owned.txt | wc -l 2991 $ egrep '^\w' not-owned.txt | wc -l 354 I don't know how many directories are missing an owner. The PoC can most likely be pushed further and even be comprehensive, using a much much faster approach like DNF did for package resolution. At this point it can only point out what's partially wrong, accurately. The script is available [1] for anyone to try and review. It would work best if people using different spins could try it, because I have less than 5000 packages installed. Thoughts? Cheers, Dridi PS. yes, I enjoy shell scripting, a lot [1] https://dridi.fedorapeople.org/devel/not-fully-owned.sh

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