Hi guys,
We will be working on importing JPackage.org Tomcat 6 RPM into Fedora 9 (will be submitted as a new package).
I'd like to keep the tomcat5 package around as well, as some people may want to use the old version still. The packages have versioned names so they can be installed in parallel. Would that be OK?
Regards to all, Fernando
"FN" == Fernando Nasser fnasser@redhat.com writes:
FN> I'd like to keep the tomcat5 package around as well, as some FN> people may want to use the old version still. The packages have FN> versioned names so they can be installed in parallel. Would that FN> be OK?
I don't see why that would be a problem, although I'm not really sure of the implications of how the parallel installations would interact with initscripts. I guess since tomcat 5 uses "tomcat5" for its initscript there wouldn't be any conflict, but is there any point to running both versions at the same time?
Also, I can't help but point out that we still really need someone from (one of) the Java team(s) to help us write some Java guidelines. Without guidelines, review tickets for Java packages have been piling up, and it's taken me a lot of time just to get answers to basic questions that have cropped up during a package review.
- J<
Hi,
On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 13:14 -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
I guess since tomcat 5 uses "tomcat5" for its initscript there wouldn't be any conflict, but is there any point to running both versions at the same time?
I think what Fernando proposes is ability to install both versions at the same time -- not running them at the same time, right? Yeah, they will conflict in the default port settings, etc, but this will probably not be an issue.
Regards,
Devrim GÜNDÜZ wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 13:14 -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
I guess since tomcat 5 uses "tomcat5" for its initscript there wouldn't be any conflict, but is there any point to running both versions at the same time?
I think what Fernando proposes is ability to install both versions at the same time -- not running them at the same time, right? Yeah, they will conflict in the default port settings, etc, but this will probably not be an issue.
You actually can. You just need to config the ports to different numbers. One can run more than one instance of the same tomcat5 version BTW, it was added in one of the latest revisions.
The installation of parallel versions of tomcat exists for several years already, that is why they are called tomcat3, tomcat4, tomcat5 and tomcat6 instead of just tomcat. It happens that we started shipping a tomcat5 in Fedora, so we never noticed that.
Cheers, Fernando
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Jason L Tibbitts III wrote:
"FN" == Fernando Nasser fnasser@redhat.com writes:
FN> I'd like to keep the tomcat5 package around as well, as some FN> people may want to use the old version still. The packages have FN> versioned names so they can be installed in parallel. Would that FN> be OK?
I don't see why that would be a problem, although I'm not really sure of the implications of how the parallel installations would interact with initscripts. I guess since tomcat 5 uses "tomcat5" for its initscript there wouldn't be any conflict, but is there any point to running both versions at the same time?
The applications may need changes to run in a different version. Also there are some pre-packaged things that one does not know how to re-config but still wants to run. Last but not least, some bits are BuildRequires and tomcat6 has a different level of the APIs. I wanted to give people at least a release or two to adapt any dependnecies.
Also, I can't help but point out that we still really need someone from (one of) the Java team(s) to help us write some Java guidelines. Without guidelines, review tickets for Java packages have been piling up, and it's taken me a lot of time just to get answers to basic questions that have cropped up during a package review.
I ti snot the guidelines that are missing. Several Java-related stuff have been discussed over the last couple of years. Sometimes long and painful threads: ask Jess or Spot.
What we need is people to do the reviews. We only get volunteers when someone is interested in a package (two cases recently). But nobody seems to have the cycle and we cannot review the packages we own ourselves. We need to try and get together some folks for a concentrate effort like we did once.
Regards, Fernando
"FN" == Fernando Nasser fnasser@redhat.com writes:
FN> I ti snot the guidelines that are missing.
Well....
FN> What we need is people to do the reviews.
I have been willing to review Java packages, but there are no guidelines which govern this and some of the practices I've seen in the packages (like the javadoc scriptlets) which I simply cannot approve without seeing a document that went through the guideline procedure saying "yes, it looks terrible but it's OK for Fedora".
So many of those packages would have been reviewed were it not for the lack of guidelines.
- J<
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