Hi,
If an upstream package uses an unusual name, such as brainf*ck, is it okay to use the same for a Fedora package name?
Please let me know.
SK
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From: "Shakthi Kannan" shakthimaan@gmail.com To: "Discussion of RPM packaging standards and practices for Fedora" packaging@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 2:00:33 PM Subject: [Fedora-packaging] Using upstream unusual package name
If an upstream package uses an unusual name, such as brainf*ck, is it okay to use the same for a Fedora package name?
Hi Shakthi,
Please read Naming Guidelines [1] carefully. As you see, "star" (*) character is not allowed in Fedora package name.
[1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:NamingGuidelines#Common_Character_Se...
Kind regards, Tuan
Hi,
--- On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Truong Anh. Tuan tuanta@iwayvietnam.com wrote: | Please read Naming Guidelines [1] carefully. | As you see, "star" (*) character is not allowed in Fedora package name. --
I had referred to:
http://hackage.haskell.org/package/brainfuck
SK
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:42:23PM +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote:
Hi,
--- On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Truong Anh. Tuan tuanta@iwayvietnam.com wrote: | Please read Naming Guidelines [1] carefully. | As you see, "star" (*) character is not allowed in Fedora package name. --
I had referred to:
Ah... so you're actually refering to the obscenity in the package name? That's a good question. We generally want to keep things "family friendly" but in this case both the program and the programming language it implements have that name. I'd lean towards allowing it but you might want to open a ticket here and the full FPC can consider it:
https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/newticket
(You'll need to log in to open the ticket. We meet on Wednesdays so if you can open it ASAp we'll be able to look at it then.)
-Toshio
Hi Toshio,
--- On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.badger@gmail.com wrote: | but in this case both the program and the programming language it implements | have that name. --
Right.
--- | you might want to open | a ticket here and the full FPC can consider it: | | https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/newticket --
I have a filed a new ticket (#212) for review. Thanks for your prompt response.
SK
On 09/25/2012 09:30 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:42:23PM +0530, Shakthi Kannan wrote:
Hi,
--- On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Truong Anh. Tuan tuanta@iwayvietnam.com wrote: | Please read Naming Guidelines [1] carefully. | As you see, "star" (*) character is not allowed in Fedora package name. --
I had referred to:
Ah... so you're actually refering to the obscenity in the package name? That's a good question. We generally want to keep things "family friendly" but in this case both the program and the programming language it implements have that name. I'd lean towards allowing it but you might want to open a ticket here and the full FPC can consider it:
So do I. It's how its parents have named their child. We may like it or not, nevertheless, Fedora should react as grown-ups and respect their choice, unless the name would be illegal in juristictions applicable to Fedora.
That said, I can only guess on the reasons for their choice, probably they haven't quite quit puberty and "find it cool" or they mean their choice as some sort of provocation/attention-teaser.
The later would mean, if Fedora is taking special means, Fedora went into the trap they set up. - IMO, they should be treated with the amount of attention they deserve: An arbitrary package amongst 1000s of others ;)
Ralf
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:15:54PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
That said, I can only guess on the reasons for their choice, probably they haven't quite quit puberty and "find it cool" or they mean their choice as some sort of provocation/attention-teaser.
In a sense, the latter. This project is a toy / programmer's challenge, and is basically meant to be what the name describes. Here, for example, is "Hello World":
++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.>.+++.------.--------.>+.>.
The Haskell implementation is more an example of Haskell than anything else.
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