Hello,
Could it be possible for the packaging commitee to decide on that issue, please? The proposals are:
* prefix with tex- * no specific naming. Prefix with tex- when another package has the same name
Could it be possible to have a vote/decision on that issue?
In any case I think that a (long) period should be left for packagers to change their package names.
-- Pat
On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 00:10 +0200, Patrice Dumas wrote:
Hello,
Could it be possible for the packaging commitee to decide on that issue, please? The proposals are:
- prefix with tex-
- no specific naming. Prefix with tex- when another package has the same name
Could it be possible to have a vote/decision on that issue?
Please pick one and propose it to us. (Or both, as they seem to work well together).
Ideally, also follow our well-documented (although, not always well known) procedure:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Committee#head-bc786fd8400956418c30a...
Thanks,
~spot
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 07:53:32PM -0400, Tom spot Callaway wrote:
On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 00:10 +0200, Patrice Dumas wrote:
Hello,
Could it be possible for the packaging commitee to decide on that issue, please? The proposals are:
- prefix with tex-
- no specific naming. Prefix with tex- when another package has the same name
Could it be possible to have a vote/decision on that issue?
Please pick one and propose it to us. (Or both, as they seem to work well together).
I can't propose one, since there are people that want one and other that want the other. I am asking for a ruling by the packaging commitee.
As for the Guideline change procedure, maybe this is useful in some cases, but what I ask for is a precise question for an existing point in guideline which is now wrong (use of the tetex- prefix), I don't think that bureaucracy is neeed (in that case, it is different for more complex guidelines).
-- Pat
On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 07:45 +0200, Patrice Dumas wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 07:53:32PM -0400, Tom spot Callaway wrote:
On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 00:10 +0200, Patrice Dumas wrote:
Hello,
Could it be possible for the packaging commitee to decide on that issue, please? The proposals are:
- prefix with tex-
- no specific naming. Prefix with tex- when another package has the same name
Could it be possible to have a vote/decision on that issue?
Please pick one and propose it to us. (Or both, as they seem to work well together).
I can't propose one, since there are people that want one and other that want the other. I am asking for a ruling by the packaging commitee.
Fair enough. I propose that we change the prefix from tetex- to tex-, since these packages were prefixed before.
~spot
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Tom "spot" Callaway wrote:
On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 07:45 +0200, Patrice Dumas wrote:
On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 07:53:32PM -0400, Tom spot Callaway wrote:
On Fri, 2007-09-21 at 00:10 +0200, Patrice Dumas wrote:
Hello,
Could it be possible for the packaging commitee to decide on that issue, please? The proposals are:
- prefix with tex-
- no specific naming. Prefix with tex- when another package has the same name
Could it be possible to have a vote/decision on that issue?
Please pick one and propose it to us. (Or both, as they seem to work well together).
I can't propose one, since there are people that want one and other that want the other. I am asking for a ruling by the packaging commitee.
Fair enough. I propose that we change the prefix from tetex- to tex-, since these packages were prefixed before.
If email voting is sufficient for this,
+1 to making the prefix tex-
- -Toshio
On Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:36:01 -0700 Toshio Kuratomi a.badger@gmail.com wrote:
If email voting is sufficient for this,
+1 to making the prefix tex-
+1 from the "just pick one and be consistent" crowd.
On 24 Sep 2007 10:24:29 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III tibbs@math.uh.edu wrote:
"TK" == Toshio Kuratomi a.badger@gmail.com writes:
TK> +1 to making the prefix tex-
+1 here as well.
And me.
Can we also consider adding some virtual provides for making add-on packages TeX distribution agnostic.
On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 17:49 +0100, Jonathan Underwood wrote:
On 24 Sep 2007 10:24:29 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III tibbs@math.uh.edu wrote:
> "TK" == Toshio Kuratomi a.badger@gmail.com writes:
TK> +1 to making the prefix tex-
+1 here as well.
And me.
Can we also consider adding some virtual provides for making add-on packages TeX distribution agnostic.
Such as?
I don't know TeX from a hole in the ground. If you know better, please draft guidelines for it. As long as they don't seem to have come from a haze of bong smoke, we'll probably sign off on them. Deferring to those who know what they're talking about is our secret to success. :)
~spot
On 25/09/2007, Tom spot Callaway tcallawa@redhat.com wrote:
On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 17:49 +0100, Jonathan Underwood wrote:
On 24 Sep 2007 10:24:29 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III tibbs@math.uh.edu wrote:
>> "TK" == Toshio Kuratomi a.badger@gmail.com writes:
TK> +1 to making the prefix tex-
+1 here as well.
And me.
Can we also consider adding some virtual provides for making add-on packages TeX distribution agnostic.
Such as?
I don't know TeX from a hole in the ground. If you know better, please draft guidelines for it. As long as they don't seem to have come from a haze of bong smoke, we'll probably sign off on them. Deferring to those who know what they're talking about is our secret to success. :)
Well, some early proposals are here:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackagingDrafts/TeXNaming
Basically, have texlive-bin Provides: TeX such that add-ons can Require: TeX. That way, if someone needs to install a different (La)TeX distribution than TeXLive (others do exist), she can still use the add-on packages (where it makes sense to do so. Depending on how texlive eventualy ends up being packaged, it may be that we want to add more fine grained virtual provides, eg tex, latex, tex-dvips, tex-pdflatex etc etc. This really needs to be done in consideration of the packaging strategy of texlive though. Input from Jindrich would be useful.
~spot
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