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Mass package change (python2- binary package renaming)
by Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek 05 Apr '18

05 Apr '18

Hello Fedora Python package maintainers! This is an announcement of a mass package renaming: Python 2 binary packages will be renamed to python2-*. This will happen soon after the F27 branching on August 15th. Currently ~1330 source packages already generate a binary package with the python2- prefix, and 835 remain to be updated. The spec files for approximately 740 packages will be renamed, and 95 will be left for fixing by maintainers or proven packagers. At the end of this e-mail are two lists of maintainers and packages: List 1. for those packages which will be taken care of by the mass remaining Patches: https://in.waw.pl/~zbyszek/fedora/pyrename/ Maintainers don't have to do anything. List 2. for the remaining packages Maintainers are encouraged to update packages manually. ### Details of the change ### The change is to ensure that as many as possible python packages which provide a version for python2 have a python2- subpackage as required by the guidelines [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Naming#Python2_binary_package_nami…]. For source packages which do *not* have a python- prefix, but already have a python-foo subpackage, that subpackage will be renamed to python2-foo. For packages which are called python-foo and just build a main binary package python-foo, a new python2-foo subpackage will be created. Provides/Requires/Conflicts/Obsoletes/Recommends/Suggests are moved from the main package to the new subpackage. In all cases, the new python2- subpackage will use lower-case naming. This may lead to a situation where an existing python3- subpackage has a differently-cased name than the python2- subpackage. An effort is made (thanks Miro!) to preserve the style which is used in the spec file, so that if e.g. python-%{real_name} was used originally, this is changed to python2-%{real_name}. If this macro cannot be guessed or if it resolves to a non-lowercase name, a non-macro lower-case string will be used. %{python_provide python2-foobar} are added as required by the guidelines [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Python#The_.25python_provide_macro]. One or two: %{python_provide python2-foobar} is always added, and if the package has a non-lower-case name, %{python_provide python2-FooBar} is also added. This provides backward compatible names to the package (python-foobar, python-FooBar), as long as %{python_provide} is defined as it is now. Once %python_provide macro is switched to prefer python3 subpackages, those compat names will be gone. In case the source package name does not have a python- prefix, a Provides for the old name is also added, with a comment that it should be removed later. Example: +%package -n python2-atpy +Summary: %summary +Requires: numpy python-astropy +%{?python_provide:%python_provide python2-atpy} +# Remove before F30 +Provides: ATpy = %{version}-%{release} Changes are implemented in an automated way using https://pagure.io/pyrenamer. rpmdev-bumpspec is used to add changelog entries will be added that look like: * Sat Aug 05 2017 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <zbyszek(a)in.waw.pl> - 3.3-4 - Python 2 binary package renamed to python2-foobar See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FinalizingFedoraSwitchtoPython3 ### Which packages need to change ### http://fedora.portingdb.xyz/namingpolicy/ "Misnamed subpackage" lists 877 subpackages. The real number is a bit lower, because there are some dead packages and some that have been fixed in the meanwhile on that list. The automated rename currently works for 737 packages, 7 have manual patches, 47 don't need work. The remaining 95 packages will require manual fixes. I do *not* want maintainers to manually fix packages which are covered by the automated changes (list 1 below), since that provides no benefit. Maintainers are of course encouraged to fix packages which are not covered (list 2 below), or to take the automated patch and use it as a basis of their own fix if the automated change is deficient for some reason. Help with the remaining ~95 packages which cannot be done automatically is very much welcome. ### Opting out and independent fixes ### The script skips all packages which already have a python2- subpackage and %python_provide, so all packages which are fixed in the meantime will be skipped. If packages need to be skipped even without that, let me know and I'll add the package to the blacklist. ### Timeline ### 2017-08-08: this e-mail is sent to fedora-announce soon after 2017-08-15 (F27 branching): automatically and manually generated patches are applied, and packages are rebuilt. Depending on the results, I'll fix some and follow up with bugzilla tickets for the remaining packages. ### List 1. Packages handled by the automated rename ### [https://in.waw.pl/~zbyszek/fedora/pyrename/] Maintainers by package: ATpy sergiopr CheMPS2 talcite NLopt besser82 OpenIPMI branto jridky pknirsch OpenImageIO hobbes1069 PyPAM msuchy tmraz PyYAML jeckersb abiword herrold uwog abrt abrt-team jfilak mhabrnal mkutlak mmarusak atomic-reactor bkabrda maxamillion ttomecek twaugh vrutkovs beecrypt robert boost denisarnaud jwakely pmachata brial pcpa brltty jskarvad limb bro fab jtaylor mildew capstone drago01 cashe james catfish mtasaka cjdns sdgathman clearsilver limb cmusphinx3 jjames condor bbockelm bcotton eerlands matt tstclair ttheisen cracklib nalin tmraz criu adrian avagin cryptominisat4 jjames cryptsetup agk mbroz okozina csound pbrobinson dbus-python alexl besser82 caillon caolanm group::alt-gtk-de-sig group::gnome-sig johnp mbarnes phuang rdieter rhughes rstrode ssp stefanok dmlite aalvarez adev andreamanzi rocha dogtail cmeadors jreznik vhumpa dreampie cicku williamjmorenor 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Modularity, container images, and the default Python stack(s)
by Nick Coghlan 29 Aug '17

29 Aug '17

Hi folks, [Note: this may not make much sense to folks that haven't been closely following the Modular Server work for F27. If that's you, sorry - hopefully this will be more comprehensible by the time I officially propose it for F28, as the relevant terminology becomes more widely understood. In the meantime, check out https://docs.pagure.org/modularity/ to learn more] I'm working on a draft proposal for a "Default Python" module (see https://fedora-python.readthedocs.io/en/latest/plans/default-python-module/ for details), and hit an interesting challenge when it comes to defining the containing images that we want to be able to build from our module definitions. A quick summary of what I'm expecting we'll have by F28: - a separate platform-python binary in the Platform module - python2 modules with a full 2.7 stream and a partial interpreter-only 2.6 stream - python3 modules with a full 3.6 stream and a TBD set of other streams - a default-python module to switch between no-default, python2-default and python3-default With those modules defined, a minimal Fedora container image will only include platform-python, but we'd at least also have Python3-F28, and Python2-F28 images that included the respective user Python stack in addition to the platform Python runtime. The part I'm struggling with is this: Python 3.7.0 is expected to be released in June 2018, while Fedora 28 is due out in May 2018. It would be *really nice* to be able to define a Fedora 28 based Python 3.7 container where "/usr/bin/python" and "/usr/bin/python3" were both references to "/usr/bin/python3.7". The challenge with actually doing that lies in the "/usr/bin/python3" symlink: integrated userspace Python applications in F28 are going to expect that to still refer to the Python 3.6 stream. One way I could potentially see this working: * the normal non-conflicting setup is as follows: * the python3 3.6 stream includes a "/usr/bin/python3" symlink * the other python3 3.x streams do *not* include such a symlink & hence don't conflict * the default-python python3-default stream does *not* include such a symlink & hence doesn't conflict We then add some more streams to the default-python module that *do* include a "/usr/bin/python3" symlink: python3.5-default, python3.7-default, etc The trick with these streams is that they would *conflict* with the regular python3 3.6 stream, due to the disagreement over what "/usr/bin/python" means. That dependency resolution conflict would then mean that have a non-default version of Python 3.x configured as the default when defining your container would *prevent* you from including any regular userspace Python components - you'd only be able to include the ones built specifically for that stream. Does that approach sound sufficiently plausible to folks that I can use it to provide feedback to the folks working on the modularity tooling as to the capabilities we think we'll need? Cheers, Nick. -- Nick Coghlan | ncoghlan(a)gmail.com | Brisbane, Australia

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EuroPython 2017 Attende badge
by Tadej Janež 27 Aug '17

27 Aug '17

Hi! We are a little late with the EuroPython Attendee badge this year, but nonetheless, it is available and I'm able to award it. So, if you attended this years EuroPython and would like to have this badge, just write to me. For more information, see: http://tadej.ja.nez.si/fedora-europython2017-attendee-badge.html Regards, Tadej

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Python 3.5.4 in Fedora 25
by Petr Viktorin 24 Aug '17

24 Aug '17

Hello, Python 3.5.4 for Fedora 25 is now waiting in Bodhi; see more info here: https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/python3-3.5.4-1.fc25 Please test and provide karma :) -- Petr Viktorin

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Self-introduction
by Elliott Sales de Andrade 23 Aug '17

23 Aug '17

Hello, My name is Elliott, but you may know me as QuLogic on IRC/FAS/GitHub/etc. I am interested in Python 3 porting, scientific libraries, Jupyter, etc., some of which you can find in my coprs [1]. I am also an upstream developer on libraries such as Matplotlib and Cartopy. I have opened a few review requests for such things: * python-click-plugins: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1468873 * python-descartes: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1468872 * python-fiona: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1468877 * python-geopandas: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1468995 Any reviews on these packages would be greatly appreciated. I am also looking for a sponsor. I have left a comment referencing some informal review work I've done on all the above bugs. [1] https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/qulogic/ -- Elliott

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Setting up a fedora-python pagure.io group
by Nick Coghlan 21 Aug '17

21 Aug '17

While working on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ncoghlan/Default_python_module, I started getting annoyed at the lack of decent review and commenting features in MediaWiki, so prompted by https://docs.pagure.org/modularity/ I went ahead and started a fedora-python repo at https://pagure.io/fedora-python/fedora-python, so we'll be able to use https://docs.pagure.org/fedora-python/ as a custom docs site. I deliberately chose the Pagure group name to match the existing GitHub one, but since my main intended use case is to review & discuss Fedora design proposals before they make their way into the formal Fedora change management processes, it seemed more appropriate to host the repo on Fedora managed infrastructure. Currently myself & Petr Viktorin are the only group members, but that's just because I haven't added anyone else yet, not because I expect the member list to actually stay that small. I also haven't actually *done* anything with the repo yet, but after PyCon Australia this weekend I'll look at moving my draft design doc for a default Python module over there, and potentially turning that doc into a general design proposal for how we want to handle the Python modules for the F27 Modular Server in general (aside from the "default-python" module idea, I expect most of that will just be writing down folks existing plans in a single place though) Cheers, Nick. P.S. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FinalizingFedoraSwitchtoPython3 could potentially move over to the new repo as well, allowing folks to submit suggested amendments as PRs -- Nick Coghlan | ncoghlan(a)gmail.com | Brisbane, Australia

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Need advice on packaging with python-pip
by Richard Shaw 17 Aug '17

17 Aug '17

I'm not a python developer but I do maintain several packages that use python and I've been unable to find clear documentation / guidelines for Fedora on how to package software that requires pip... The closest I've found is: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PythonWheels Traditionally building a package should not require internet access as everything needed to build the package is supposed to be in the source RPM. It looks like with the increase in use of things like GO, nodejs, and now pip, that's no longer appears to be really practical. Am I missing something that google hasn't helped me find? Or are the packaging guidelines struggling to keep up with how fast things are changing? Thanks, Richard

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Re: ENOTIME
by Petr Viktorin 14 Aug '17

14 Aug '17

On 07/20/2017 05:04 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: > My workload at $dayjob$ has increased significantly so I'm afraid I have much > less time to devote to packaging work. Now more than ever I could use help > maintaining my packages (listed below). If you are interested, please add > yourself as co-maintainers in pkgdb. Thanks! Hello Orion! Sorry for the late reply; I'm behind in my e-mails. First of all, thank you very much for all your work! I knew you maintained a lot of Python packages, but seeing the whole list is very impressive. Would you like to hand over (some of) your Python packages to the Python SIG? Pagure doesn't allow groups as package owners, but I hope I can represent Python SIG here, at least for administrative tasks. (Among other things, I lead Red Hat's python-maint team, which includes many active Python SIGgers.) If you add me as admin, I'll add Python SIG to the committers list, try to search for contributors, and handle any emergencies. (I can't promise we'll handle day-to-day packaging for all the packages, but some of them are interesting to me presonally.) Unfortunately, in Pagure I can't request access for myself. But if you agree, I can file ticket with a Fedora infra for some kind of mass update. Python packages where you're an admin seem to be: netcdf4-python oct2spec pyhoca-cli pyhoca-gui pymongo python-AppTools python-Traits python-backports_abc python-clyent python-cytoolz python-ecdsa python-envisage python-gflags python-google-apputils python-iptools python-ipython_genutils python-jupyter_core python-locket python-nbformat python-numpydoc python-optcomplete python-pamela python-pkgconfig python-process-tests python-pycosat python-pyface python-pytest-cache python-pytest-cov python-pytest-flakes python-pytest-pep8 python-rpm-macros python-scp python-setuptools_scm python-sphinx-gallery python-sphinxcontrib-issuetracker python-spur python-terminado python-toolz python-traitlets python-traitsui python-workerpool python-x2go python3-Cython python3-PyYAML python3-coverage python3-dbus python3-decorator python3-docutils python3-idna python3-jinja2 python3-markupsafe python3-netaddr python3-netifaces python3-nose python3-numpy python3-ply python3-py python3-pycparser python3-pycurl python3-pygments python3-pytest python3-pytz python3-requests python3-scipy python3-setuptools python3-six python3-sqlalchemy python3-suds python3-tornado python3-urllib3 -- Petr Viktorin

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Naming policy for application vs library packages in Python
by Ben Rosser 11 Aug '17

11 Aug '17

Hi, This is following up on a brief conversation I was part of in IRC (#fedora-devel) earlier: I've never been quite sure how to name packages written in Python when they are just applications. Many "applications" written in Python still install themselves using distutils or setuptools, and so install a "module" into the site_packages directory. By a strict interpretation of our Python packaging guidelines [1] [2], python 3 "modules" MUST be packaged as "python3-name". Since technically any nontrivial Python application that can be installed via distutils or setuptools likely installs a module, this strict interpretation of the guidelines would mean that software that happens to be written in Python but does not intend to provide a library must be named with the python3-* prefix. I am not sure that this is intended (since there's definitely software in the distribution written in Python not named with a python prefix). If this is not intended, then it would be nice if we could reword the guideline to be more clear. If it is intended, I'm prepared to argue that the current guideline is too strict and should be revisited, both from a practical position (users looking for software called "foobar" who many not care whether or not it's written in Python will be confused if it is packaged under the name "python-foobar" in Fedora), and from a philosophical one (we don't put the "lib" prefix on every library package if upstream doesn't use that as their name because we generally try to respect the way upstream names their software). As a counter-proposal I would suggest that, as we currently do, we require the python3-prefix to be provided by the package, but explicitly leave it to the packager+reviewer's discretion whether or not the prefix must be part of the real name, too. Some other languages do already do this: nodejs [3] and ocaml [4] both explicitly have "if this primarily provides a tool or application" clauses in their naming guidelines. I think it makes sense to have something similar for Python, to help avoid confusion. Ben Rosser [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Naming#Python_modules [2] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Python#Provides [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Node.js?rd=Node.js/#Naming_Guideli… [4] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Naming#OCaml_modules

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Re: Mass package change (python2- binary package renaming)
by Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek 09 Aug '17

09 Aug '17

On Wed, Aug 09, 2017 at 04:48:42PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 10:14:26PM +0000, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > Hello Fedora Python package maintainers! > > > > This is an announcement of a mass package renaming: > > Python 2 binary packages will be renamed to python2-*. > > > > This will happen soon after the F27 branching on August 15th. > > > > > > Currently ~1330 source packages already generate a binary package with > > the python2- prefix, and 835 remain to be updated. The spec files for > > approximately 740 packages will be renamed, and 95 will be left for > > fixing by maintainers or proven packagers. > > > > > > At the end of this e-mail are two lists of maintainers and packages: > > > > List 1. for those packages which will be taken care of by the mass remaining > > Patches: https://in.waw.pl/~zbyszek/fedora/pyrename/ > > > > Maintainers don't have to do anything. > > > Example: > > +%package -n python2-atpy > > +Summary: %summary > > +Requires: numpy python-astropy > > +%{?python_provide:%python_provide python2-atpy} > > +# Remove before F30 > > +Provides: ATpy = %{version}-%{release} > > This looks incomplete & broken to me. > > The Provides satisfies any dependancies on the old name, but you're > missing an Obsoletes to tell RPM the upgrade path. Trying to installing > the new python2-libvirt RPM on an existing system fails because it > clashes with libvirt-python. Good catch. Obsoletes: python-libvirt is generated by %python_provide, but I forgot to add Obsoletes: libvirt-python. Thanks, I'll fix this and other packages in the same situation. > A further flaw in your script is that its changed libvirt-python to > python2-libvirt, but not changed libvirt-python3 to python3-libvirt, > so the naming inconsistency is worse than before your proposed change. Yeah, that was a conscious decision. In the draft I sent to fedora-devel last week I asked if python3 subpackages should be renamed, but nobody answered, so I assumed that people don't care that much either way. My motivation for not touching this right now was to limit the number of changes and potential for screwups. > Also the %_description stuff is just ugly Not the prettiest, but rpm just doesn't give us nice tools. The alternative is to repeat the description text three times, which is not only at least as ugly, but also harder to maintain. Zbyszek

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