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Server SIG Weekly Meeting Minutes (2015-06-30)
by Stephen Gallagher 30 Jun '15

30 Jun '15

========================================================= #fedora-meeting-1: Server SIG Weekly Meeting (2015-06-30) ========================================================= Meeting started by sgallagh at 15:00:37 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2015-06-30/fedora -meeting-1.2015-06-30-15.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (sgallagh, 15:00:38) * Agenda (sgallagh, 15:03:45) * Agenda Item: Change Status Update (sgallagh, 15:04:03) * Agenda Item: Trimming the Server DVD (sgallagh, 15:05:10) * Change Status Update (sgallagh, 15:06:41) * Cockpit Domain Controller Change is going to be deferred due to insufficient resources (sgallagh, 15:12:00) * Automatic ABI-break detection is moving along, but will not be ready in time for F23 (sgallagh, 15:12:15) * Containerization of Server Roles is proceeding mostly on schedule (sgallagh, 15:13:49) * rolekit to transition to Python 3 soon (sgallagh, 15:14:41) * Domain Controller Replica Promotion work is ongoing (sgallagh, 15:16:12) * Trimming the Server DVD (sgallagh, 15:17:47) * LINK: http://docs.ansible.com/faq.html (stefw, 15:31:22) * AGREED: Fedora 23 Server DVD will no longer carry OpenLMI (+5, 0, -0) (sgallagh, 15:48:04) * ACTION: sgallagh to update comps.xml to remove OpenLMI packages (sgallagh, 15:48:22) * ACTION: sgallagh to split the Virtualization group into virt and virt-headless (sgallagh, 15:51:20) * ACTION: sgallagh to remove nmap-frontend, system-config-samba and PyGreSQL from comps groups (sgallagh, 16:17:16) * Open Floor (sgallagh, 16:20:27) Meeting ended at 16:21:27 UTC. Action Items ------------ * sgallagh to update comps.xml to remove OpenLMI packages * sgallagh to split the Virtualization group into virt and virt -headless * sgallagh to remove nmap-frontend, system-config-samba and PyGreSQL from comps groups Action Items, by person ----------------------- * sgallagh * sgallagh to update comps.xml to remove OpenLMI packages * sgallagh to split the Virtualization group into virt and virt-headless * sgallagh to remove nmap-frontend, system-config-samba and PyGreSQL from comps groups * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * sgallagh (129) * rkuska (69) * adamw (30) * misc (24) * simo (24) * mitr (12) * stefw (9) * zodbot (6) * tuanta (2) * mstuchli (1) * mizmo (1) * nirik (0) * danofsatx (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Server group meetup at FUDCon Pune?
by Truong Anh Tuan 24 Jun '15

24 Jun '15

Hi there, I am travelling to FUDCon Pune now so I could not attend the Server WG meeting today. There are a lot of Fedora contributors going to Pune, and also Server group members. Would you like to have a Server group meetup there? Rgds, Tuan

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Server SIG Weekly Meeting Minutes (2015-06-23)
by Miloslav Trmač 23 Jun '15

23 Jun '15

========================================================= #fedora-meeting-1: Server SIG Weekly Meeting (2015-06-23) ========================================================= Meeting started by sgallagh at 15:03:04 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2015-06-23/fedora-meeting… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (sgallagh, 15:03:09) * Agenda (sgallagh, 15:09:11) * Agenda Item: GSOC Cockpit Progress (sgallagh, 15:09:39) * Agenda Item: Python 3 status update (sgallagh, 15:09:52) * Agenda Item: Summary of F23 Change Proposals (sgallagh, 15:10:03) * Agenda Item: File Sharing Role (sgallagh, 15:10:46) * GSOC Cockpit Progress (sgallagh, 15:13:11) * Python 3 status update (sgallagh, 15:18:28) * LINK: http://reviewboard-fedoraserver.rhcloud.com/r/158/ (sgallagh, 15:19:37) * ACTION: adamw volunteers to figure out what is left of python 2 in the F23 default install (sgallagh, 15:25:44) * Change Proposals (sgallagh, 15:29:30) * File Sharing Role (sgallagh, 15:37:52) * Open Floor (sgallagh, 15:44:03) * LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1234653 basically stops all media booting in most cases (adamw, 15:47:55) * adamw working towards adding Fedora Server-specific OpenQA tests for F23. (sgallagh, 15:51:55) Meeting ended at 15:55:01 UTC. Action Items ------------ * adamw volunteers to figure out what is left of python 2 in the F23 default install Action Items, by person ----------------------- * adamw * adamw volunteers to figure out what is left of python 2 in the F23 default install * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * sgallagh (83) * adamw (31) * simo (13) * nirik (12) * zodbot (6) * mitr (4) * Corey84 (1) * stefw (0) * danofsatx (0) * tuanta (0) * mizmo (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Soliciting agenda for Server SIG Weekly Meeting (2015-06-23)
by Stephen Gallagher 22 Jun '15

22 Jun '15

SSIA, what do we have to discuss this week?

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Agenda for Server SIG Weekly Meeting (2015-06-16) (Cancel?)
by Stephen Gallagher 16 Jun '15

16 Jun '15

I don't have anything pressing on the agenda for this week. If anyone else would like to bring something up, please reply. Otherwise we will cancel the meeting for this week.

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Hardware support on Fedora Server DVD
by Stephen Gallagher 13 Jun '15

13 Jun '15

So yesterday a bug[1] showed up where someone installed Fedora Server on a laptop using the network install media over a WiFI connection and after startup did not have the proper packages to use WiFI in the installed system. This was part of a conscious decision in the past that WiFI was not commonly present on server hardware. That being said, do we want to make it available as an optional comps group and include it on the DVD media? This will likely increase the size of the DVD (though probably not by much, since most of the required packages are already required by Anaconda). I'm leaning towards yes, but the alternative would be to somehow document the lack of WiFI out-of-the-box better. [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1230223

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Server SIG Weekly Meeting Minutes (2015-06-09)
by Stephen Gallagher 09 Jun '15

09 Jun '15

========================================================= #fedora-meeting-1: Server SIG Weekly Meeting (2015-06-09) ========================================================= Meeting started by sgallagh at 15:00:04 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2015-06-09/fedora -meeting-1.2015-06-09-15.00.log.html . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (sgallagh, 15:00:04) * Agenda (sgallagh, 15:05:29) * Agenda Item: PRD Refresh (sgallagh, 15:05:55) * Agenda Item: Change Proposals (sgallagh, 15:05:55) * Agenda Item: Local DNS Resolver (sgallagh, 15:07:03) * PRD Refresh (sgallagh, 15:08:35) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=User%3ASgallagh%2FServe r_PRD_Draft&diff=current&oldid=415115 (sgallagh, 15:09:27) * simo raises concerns about the migration requirement added to the role upgrade path requirements (sgallagh, 15:12:40) * simo recommends that planning for future migrations should be done at the beginning of role implementation to avoid future surprises (sgallagh, 15:15:23) * AGREED: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sgallagh/Server_PRD_Draft to be submitted to the Fedora Council for ratification (+5, 2, -0)\ (sgallagh, 15:29:30) * Change Proposals (sgallagh, 15:29:40) * LINK: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/server/2015-June/001911.html (sgallagh, 15:29:57) * AGREED: File Sharing Server Role is deferred to a future release due to lack of volunteers. (+5, 2, -0) (sgallagh, 15:38:42) * ACTION: sgallagh and (tentatively) stefw to act as owners of the "Cockpit GUI for Domain Controller Role" Change Proposal (sgallagh, 15:41:59) * ACTION: sgallagh to act as owner of the "Containerized Server Roles" Change Proposal (sgallagh, 15:43:41) * First containerized role: memcached (sgallagh, 15:44:12) * Second containerized role: updated Database Server Role (sgallagh, 15:44:33) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/23/Schedule (sgallagh, 15:47:25) * No coordinator from the Server WG selected for the "ABI Break Detection" Change. Will reach out to Base Design WG for a co-owner. (sgallagh, 15:53:03) * "FreeIPA Replica Role" Change Proposal will be deferred to Fedora 24 due to upstream uncertainty. (sgallagh, 15:56:49) * "Stable API Documentation" will be filed as a Change Proposal if an owner can be found (sgallagh, 16:06:06) * Local DNS Resolver (sgallagh, 16:06:29) * AGREED: Fedora Server SIG is broadly in favor of enabling DNSSEC by default on the Fedora Server Edition. (Lazy consensus) (sgallagh, 16:17:52) * Open Floor (sgallagh, 16:19:27) Meeting ended at 16:29:41 UTC. Action Items ------------ * sgallagh and (tentatively) stefw to act as owners of the "Cockpit GUI for Domain Controller Role" Change Proposal * sgallagh to act as owner of the "Containerized Server Roles" Change Proposal Action Items, by person ----------------------- * sgallagh * sgallagh and (tentatively) stefw to act as owners of the "Cockpit GUI for Domain Controller Role" Change Proposal * sgallagh to act as owner of the "Containerized Server Roles" Change Proposal * stefw * sgallagh and (tentatively) stefw to act as owners of the "Cockpit GUI for Domain Controller Role" Change Proposal * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * sgallagh (132) * simo (70) * nirik (39) * garrett (25) * danofsatx (22) * zodbot (12) * mitr (10) * stefw (6) * mizmo (4) * hrw (2) * andreasn (2) * twoerner (1) * adamw (0) * tuanta (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.1.4 .. _`MeetBot`: http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot

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Agenda for Server SIG Weekly Meeting (2015-06-09)
by Stephen Gallagher 09 Jun '15

09 Jun '15

Two important items today: 1) Review of changes for the PRD 2) Decision on Change Proposals to file I'm still working on my proposed changes to the PRD; I'll provide a link with the diff at the start of the meeting. For the Change Proposals, it looks like we have resources committed for: * Cockpit GUI for Domain Controller Role * Containerized Server Roles * ABI Break Detection We don't have a commitment of delivery, but have someone working on: * FreeIPA Replica Role * Stable API Documentation We have no one who has stepped up to try to implement the File Sharing Server Role, so this is probably going to be deferred unless someone takes it on. I'd still like for us to find some volunteers to work on the plumbing work so we can deliver this for Fedora 24.

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Change Proposals for Fedora 23
by Stephen Gallagher 05 Jun '15

05 Jun '15

In addition to the PRD refresh that we are all looking at (*ahem*), we also need to figure out what are the major efforts we're going to engage in during the Fedora 23 cycle. Alpha Freeze for Fedora 23 will be on July 28th[1], and that means we need to have at least a prototype of what we want in Fedora 23 ready by that point. I'll list some of the things that have been discussed on the mailing list and in meetings recently and we can work from there. (I'll also include my recommendations inline). ============================== == File-sharing server role == ============================== === Benefits === * Simple, easy-to-use mechanism for producing a file-sharing host using the CIFS and/or NFS protocols. * Clear gap in our offering today. === Requirements === * Development of an API to manage the configuration. * Creation of a server role definition to provide the services. * Graphical interface for manipulating it (likely Cockpit, unless another web-based tool can be adapted without sacrificing usability). === Issues/Risks === * Cockpit developers have indicated they cannot spare the resources to implement the GUI this cycle. === Recommendations === Ask for volunteers to work on the management API for Fedora 23 and postpone cockpit and rolekit work until Fedora 24. ============================================ == Cockpit GUI for Domain Controller Role == ============================================ === Benefits === * Easier setup of initial domain controller. * Demonstration of our commitment to converging capabilities into Cockpit === Requirements === * UI Design of role creation (started; thanks Andreas Nilsson!) * Resources familiar with JavaScript and D-BUS (acquired: we have a GSoC student working on this) === Issues/Risks === * Work is being done by a student as part of Google Summer of Code. Student projects always carry some risk. GSoC schedule is a good fit with the Fedora 23 schedule (recommended pencils-down date is before Fedora 23 Beta) === Recommendations === Let's definitely move ahead with this one. I'm sure our student (Turner England) will be motivated and excited to see his work featured prominently as a deliverable. I will also be personally involved as one of his two mentors (the other being Peter Volpe of the Cockpit team). ================================ == Containerized Server Roles == ================================ === Benefits === * Server roles offered by containers will be unaffected by underlying OS upgrades. * Containers written under the Nulecule specification will be possible to migrate to the Fedora Atomic Platform (and possibly also OpenShift v3) later. === Requirements === * At least one proof-of-concept role (I am proposing memcached for this, as it's very simple). * Ideally convert the Database Server role to a container format. Must handle upgrades (or backup/restore) from F22 DB Role. * Docker package must be built for at least all primary arches (and ideally the secondary arches as well). === Issues/Risks === * More difficult to determine when upgrades are necessary and to apply them. * Docker Hub only supports x86_64, so we will have to either provide a hub of our own or build docker images in rolekit from Dockerfiles. === Recommendations === I will be working on at least the PoC role (memcached) at the direction of my management at Red Hat, so we should probably treat this as a given and go ahead with filing at least one Change Proposal. I recommend for simplicity (and not adding to rel-eng's workload) that we build the images in rolekit from Dockerfiles based on the latest available RPMs in the standard Fedora package collection. I also recommend that we defer attempting to completely solve the docker image upgrade problem to Fedora 24 (there's some work going on in the Atomic space that may be more mature by that point). I think for a first attempt, it will be acceptable to just build the ability to perform upgrades on demand and instead implement the notification of upgrades at a later date. ========================== == FreeIPA Replica Role == ========================== === Benefits === * Ability to set up a resilient domain * Fewer manual steps after the initial domain creation === Requirements === * Mechanism to promote a domain client to a replica * Resources: This needs the heavy involvement of a FreeIPA developer (simo?) === Issues/Risks === * May require plumbing changes that cannot be completed in time. === Recommendations === Feedback needed from FreeIPA team before I can make any recommendations. [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/23/Schedule

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Requesting help with the cloud flyer for F22
by Ankur Sinha 02 Jun '15

02 Jun '15

Hi, I'm one of the folks that help out in the marketing team. I had made a flyer for the F21 workstation product and have updated it for F22 now. I wanted to make a similar one for the server product too - it'll come in handy for the ambassadors to give out at events and so on. Unfortunately, I do not use the server product myself and am not as well informed about it as I need to be to write up a flyer. I was wondering if someone here could please provide me with the text that could go in to the flyer? I generally pick up text from the release announcement, but I'm afraid there isn't much there this time: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F22_release_announcement This is what the workstation flyer looks like, and the server one would look similar: A "notumble" version so you can read the text easily: https://ankursinha.fedorapeople.org/fedora-flyer-workstation/fedora -flyer-workstation-notumble.pdf This is how it'll actually look: https://ankursinha.fedorapeople.org/fedora-flyer-workstation/fedora -flyer-workstation-tumble.pdf I use LaTeX to make these and the sources are here: https://github.com/sanjayankur31/fedora-flyer-server -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD" http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha

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