Hi everyone, I just got my rawhide installed last night. This is pretty good. But there are some issues that I cannot solve myself: 1. I cannot remap my keyboard layout using xmodmap. My xmodmap script is as below: xmodmap -e "remove Lock = Caps_Lock" xmodmap -e "keycode 66 = BackSpace BackSpace BackSpace BackSpace" xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = Tab ISO_Left_Tab Tab ISO_Left_Tab" xmodmap -e "keycode 23 = Escape NoSymbol Escape" xmodmap -e "keycode 9 = Caps_Lock" xmodmap -e "clear control" xmodmap -e "clear mod1" xmodmap -e "remove mod4 = Super_L Super_R" xmodmap -e "keycode 133 = Alt_L Meta_L Alt_L Meta_L" xmodmap -e "keycode 134 = Alt_R Meta_R Alt_R Meta_R" xmodmap -e "keycode 37 = Super_L NoSymbol Super_L" xmodmap -e "keycode 64 = Control_L NoSymbol Control_L" xmodmap -e "keycode 105 = Super_R NoSymbol Super_R" xmodmap -e "keycode 108 = Control_R NoSymbol Control_R" xmodmap -e "add Control = Control_L Control_R" xmodmap -e "add mod1 = Alt_L Meta_L Alt_R Meta_R" xmodmap -e "add mod4 = Super_L Super_R" xmodmap -e "add Lock = Caps_Lock"
I can use this script on all other linux machines. When I put this in fedora rawhide, it didn't work. Some of the keymap can work outside the terminal, for example, some of the remap can work in Firefox, buy not in terminal. I have tried to put this script file in several place: ~/.bashrc ~/.bashrc_profile a file named rc.local in /etc or /usr, sorry I cannot remember ~/.xsession ~/.xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap
They all didn't work. I use the Programmer Dvorak Keyboard Layout. Can anyone help me this out? Thanks.
Sincerely, Bowen Wang
On Sat, 2016-09-24 at 15:06 -0500, Bowen Wang wrote:
Hi everyone, I just got my rawhide installed last night. This is pretty good. But there are some issues that I cannot solve myself:
- I cannot remap my keyboard layout using xmodmap. My xmodmap script is as
below: xmodmap -e "remove Lock = Caps_Lock" xmodmap -e "keycode 66 = BackSpace BackSpace BackSpace BackSpace" xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = Tab ISO_Left_Tab Tab ISO_Left_Tab" xmodmap -e "keycode 23 = Escape NoSymbol Escape" xmodmap -e "keycode 9 = Caps_Lock" xmodmap -e "clear control" xmodmap -e "clear mod1" xmodmap -e "remove mod4 = Super_L Super_R" xmodmap -e "keycode 133 = Alt_L Meta_L Alt_L Meta_L" xmodmap -e "keycode 134 = Alt_R Meta_R Alt_R Meta_R" xmodmap -e "keycode 37 = Super_L NoSymbol Super_L" xmodmap -e "keycode 64 = Control_L NoSymbol Control_L" xmodmap -e "keycode 105 = Super_R NoSymbol Super_R" xmodmap -e "keycode 108 = Control_R NoSymbol Control_R" xmodmap -e "add Control = Control_L Control_R" xmodmap -e "add mod1 = Alt_L Meta_L Alt_R Meta_R" xmodmap -e "add mod4 = Super_L Super_R" xmodmap -e "add Lock = Caps_Lock"
I can use this script on all other linux machines. When I put this in fedora rawhide, it didn't work. Some of the keymap can work outside the terminal, for example, some of the remap can work in Firefox, buy not in terminal. I have tried to put this script file in several place: ~/.bashrc ~/.bashrc_profile a file named rc.local in /etc or /usr, sorry I cannot remember ~/.xsession ~/.xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap
They all didn't work. I use the Programmer Dvorak Keyboard Layout. Can anyone help me this out? Thanks.
Hi Bowen! Just wanted to make sure you're aware Rawhide is the most 'unstable' development version of Fedora; it's more stable and tested than it used to be but we still don't recommend it for everyday use. It's awesome to have people running it (we want more!) but we do recommend you have a stable Fedora release around too just in case Rawhide goes wrong.
As for your problem - if you're running Workstation, then it's probably not working because you're not using X :) Workstation in Fedora 25 and Rawhide now defaults to using Wayland. So if that's your situation, you'll need to look up how to do the equivalent of xmodmap on Wayland - I don't know about this off-hand. I looked it up just quickly with Google, and here are some references that may help:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/501659/how-to-swap-command-and-control-keys-... https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/294286/how-can-i-autoload-xkb-custo... http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2011/05/31/x.html (note: from 2011, so things may have improved)
Basically xmodmap indeed doesn't work on Wayland, you need to customize the xkb configuration instead. xkb is...er...fun to learn about...hope those links help. :) Good luck! Maybe if you're successful you could write up a handy blog post or something explaining your findings?
Thanks a lot!
Thanks! I am currently working on learning xkb. I will post my way if it can work. I know the Rawhide is not very stable, but it provides the cutting-edge features and software. There is another issue I just found: I download the image of Rawhide 20160923 version, then I upgraded my system today. When restarted the laptop again, there seems to be another grub entry. How can I delete the old one? There are 3 entries in my grub list totally, the last is a rescue mode entry. Can you tell me how to delete the old one?
Bowen Wang
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Adam Williamson <adamwill@fedoraproject.org
wrote:
On Sat, 2016-09-24 at 15:06 -0500, Bowen Wang wrote:
Hi everyone, I just got my rawhide installed last night. This is pretty good. But
there
are some issues that I cannot solve myself:
- I cannot remap my keyboard layout using xmodmap. My xmodmap script is
as
below: xmodmap -e "remove Lock = Caps_Lock" xmodmap -e "keycode 66 = BackSpace BackSpace BackSpace BackSpace" xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = Tab ISO_Left_Tab Tab ISO_Left_Tab" xmodmap -e "keycode 23 = Escape NoSymbol Escape" xmodmap -e "keycode 9 = Caps_Lock" xmodmap -e "clear control" xmodmap -e "clear mod1" xmodmap -e "remove mod4 = Super_L Super_R" xmodmap -e "keycode 133 = Alt_L Meta_L Alt_L Meta_L" xmodmap -e "keycode 134 = Alt_R Meta_R Alt_R Meta_R" xmodmap -e "keycode 37 = Super_L NoSymbol Super_L" xmodmap -e "keycode 64 = Control_L NoSymbol Control_L" xmodmap -e "keycode 105 = Super_R NoSymbol Super_R" xmodmap -e "keycode 108 = Control_R NoSymbol Control_R" xmodmap -e "add Control = Control_L Control_R" xmodmap -e "add mod1 = Alt_L Meta_L Alt_R Meta_R" xmodmap -e "add mod4 = Super_L Super_R" xmodmap -e "add Lock = Caps_Lock"
I can use this script on all other linux machines. When I put this in fedora rawhide, it didn't work. Some of the keymap can work outside the terminal, for example, some of the remap can work in Firefox, buy not in terminal. I have tried to put this script file in several place: ~/.bashrc ~/.bashrc_profile a file named rc.local in /etc or /usr, sorry I cannot remember ~/.xsession ~/.xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap
They all didn't work. I use the Programmer Dvorak Keyboard Layout. Can anyone help me this out? Thanks.
Hi Bowen! Just wanted to make sure you're aware Rawhide is the most 'unstable' development version of Fedora; it's more stable and tested than it used to be but we still don't recommend it for everyday use. It's awesome to have people running it (we want more!) but we do recommend you have a stable Fedora release around too just in case Rawhide goes wrong.
As for your problem - if you're running Workstation, then it's probably not working because you're not using X :) Workstation in Fedora 25 and Rawhide now defaults to using Wayland. So if that's your situation, you'll need to look up how to do the equivalent of xmodmap on Wayland - I don't know about this off-hand. I looked it up just quickly with Google, and here are some references that may help:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/501659/how-to-swap- command-and-control-keys-with-xkb-step-by-step https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/294286/how-can- i-autoload-xkb-customisations-in-gnome http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2011/05/31/x.html (note: from 2011, so things may have improved)
Basically xmodmap indeed doesn't work on Wayland, you need to customize the xkb configuration instead. xkb is...er...fun to learn about...hope those links help. :) Good luck! Maybe if you're successful you could write up a handy blog post or something explaining your findings?
Thanks a lot!
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On Sat, 2016-09-24 at 18:55 -0500, Bowen Wang wrote:
Thanks! I am currently working on learning xkb. I will post my way if it can work. I know the Rawhide is not very stable, but it provides the cutting-edge features and software. There is another issue I just found: I download the image of Rawhide 20160923 version, then I upgraded my system today. When restarted the laptop again, there seems to be another grub entry. How can I delete the old one? There are 3 entries in my grub list totally, the last is a rescue mode entry. Can you tell me how to delete the old one?
This is normal, but don't worry, it won't keep growing forever :) The default Fedora config is to keep three kernels installed at once. This is a safety measure to ensure that if you update to a kernel that doesn't work, you can still boot with one of the older kernels. Once you have three kernels installed, you'll find Fedora will start removing the oldest kernel when installing a new kernel.
If you really just want to have one kernel installed at a time you can configure this, I think, but I'd have to look up how. I really recommend sticking with the default, though, it's a helpful safety measure.
On 25/09/16 14:31, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sat, 2016-09-24 at 18:55 -0500, Bowen Wang wrote:
Thanks! I am currently working on learning xkb. I will post my way if it can work. I know the Rawhide is not very stable, but it provides the cutting-edge features and software. There is another issue I just found: I download the image of Rawhide 20160923 version, then I upgraded my system today. When restarted the laptop again, there seems to be another grub entry. How can I delete the old one? There are 3 entries in my grub list totally, the last is a rescue mode entry. Can you tell me how to delete the old one?
This is normal, but don't worry, it won't keep growing forever :) The default Fedora config is to keep three kernels installed at once. This is a safety measure to ensure that if you update to a kernel that doesn't work, you can still boot with one of the older kernels. Once you have three kernels installed, you'll find Fedora will start removing the oldest kernel when installing a new kernel.
If you really just want to have one kernel installed at a time you can configure this, I think, but I'd have to look up how. I really recommend sticking with the default, though, it's a helpful safety measure.
One time about 12 years ago I had a kernel update that had a bug which prevented me connecting to the modem, I was able to reboot to the previous kernel & continue as before. I raised a bug report, & the next kernel I downloaded had that bug fixed.
So Yes, it is good to keep a few previous kernels around just in case ...
Cheers, Gavin
That makes sense. Ok, I think it is better to keep the older kernel because I do need some stable stuff.
Bowen
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 10:34 PM, Gavin Flower < GavinFlower@archidevsys.co.nz> wrote:
On 25/09/16 14:31, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sat, 2016-09-24 at 18:55 -0500, Bowen Wang wrote:
Thanks! I am currently working on learning xkb. I will post my way if it can work. I know the Rawhide is not very stable, but it provides the cutting-edge features and software. There is another issue I just found: I download the image of Rawhide 20160923 version, then I upgraded my system today. When restarted the laptop again, there seems to be another grub entry. How can I delete the old one? There are 3 entries in my grub list totally, the last is a rescue mode entry. Can you tell me how to delete the old one?
This is normal, but don't worry, it won't keep growing forever :) The default Fedora config is to keep three kernels installed at once. This is a safety measure to ensure that if you update to a kernel that doesn't work, you can still boot with one of the older kernels. Once you have three kernels installed, you'll find Fedora will start removing the oldest kernel when installing a new kernel.
If you really just want to have one kernel installed at a time you can configure this, I think, but I'd have to look up how. I really recommend sticking with the default, though, it's a helpful safety measure.
One time about 12 years ago I had a kernel update that had a bug which prevented me connecting to the modem, I was able to reboot to the previous kernel & continue as before. I raised a bug report, & the next kernel I downloaded had that bug fixed.
So Yes, it is good to keep a few previous kernels around just in case ...
Cheers, Gavin
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On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 01:32:12PM -0500, Bowen Wang wrote:
Ok, I think it is better to keep the older kernel because I do need some stable stuff.
On 25/09/16 14:31, Adam Williamson wrote:
If you really just want to have one kernel installed at a time you can configure this, I think, but I'd have to look up how.
In /etc/dnf/dnf.conf there is a line 'installonly_limit=<something>'; the same in yum.conf if you are still using that. A default value is 3 and that is why normally you end up with three kernels in /boot/. You can decrease or increase that number.
As dnf, or yum, will not delete a package for the currently running kernel then usually it does not make much sense to drop that value below 2.
Michal
Hi Adam, I have solved the keyboard remap problem. I will post my solution here. I used to use the xmodmap, but it doesn't work in Wayland anymore. So I dig into the xkb, I found two webpages particularly helpful. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/X_KeyBoard_extension http://www.charvolant.org/~doug/xkb/html/index.html
After reading these webpages, I have solved my problem. But my solution has its limits, I think it can only handle keyboard remap, but if you want to add some more advanced stuff on it, I don't think it will work.
To remap the keys, go to the directory: /usr/share/X11/xkb/keycodes/
The files are mappings from key code that sent from keyboard hardware and the key names that actually prcoessed by the X system. For example, <LALT>=64 This means that when X system received the keycode 64 from the keyboard, I will map it to the left alt key in the X system, and sent <LALT> to other programs in X to get the functions about that key. So the solution is pretty simple, suppose that you want to swap Left Ctrl and Left Alt, the original configuration file is like this: <LALT>=64 <LCTL>=37 What you need to do is just change it into: <LALT>=37 <LCTL>=64 then restart the laptop.
Another thing is that there are several(maybe 10) keycode configuration files in that directory, you don't need to change them all. I think they are for various platforms. I just change the file names evdev.
Another thing is I know that there will updates for Rawhide nearly everyday, how can I get the release history or future schedule of Rawhide? Thanks.
Bowen Wang
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 4:09 PM, Adam Williamson <adamwill@fedoraproject.org
wrote:
On Sat, 2016-09-24 at 15:06 -0500, Bowen Wang wrote:
Hi everyone, I just got my rawhide installed last night. This is pretty good. But
there
are some issues that I cannot solve myself:
- I cannot remap my keyboard layout using xmodmap. My xmodmap script is
as
below: xmodmap -e "remove Lock = Caps_Lock" xmodmap -e "keycode 66 = BackSpace BackSpace BackSpace BackSpace" xmodmap -e "keycode 22 = Tab ISO_Left_Tab Tab ISO_Left_Tab" xmodmap -e "keycode 23 = Escape NoSymbol Escape" xmodmap -e "keycode 9 = Caps_Lock" xmodmap -e "clear control" xmodmap -e "clear mod1" xmodmap -e "remove mod4 = Super_L Super_R" xmodmap -e "keycode 133 = Alt_L Meta_L Alt_L Meta_L" xmodmap -e "keycode 134 = Alt_R Meta_R Alt_R Meta_R" xmodmap -e "keycode 37 = Super_L NoSymbol Super_L" xmodmap -e "keycode 64 = Control_L NoSymbol Control_L" xmodmap -e "keycode 105 = Super_R NoSymbol Super_R" xmodmap -e "keycode 108 = Control_R NoSymbol Control_R" xmodmap -e "add Control = Control_L Control_R" xmodmap -e "add mod1 = Alt_L Meta_L Alt_R Meta_R" xmodmap -e "add mod4 = Super_L Super_R" xmodmap -e "add Lock = Caps_Lock"
I can use this script on all other linux machines. When I put this in fedora rawhide, it didn't work. Some of the keymap can work outside the terminal, for example, some of the remap can work in Firefox, buy not in terminal. I have tried to put this script file in several place: ~/.bashrc ~/.bashrc_profile a file named rc.local in /etc or /usr, sorry I cannot remember ~/.xsession ~/.xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap
They all didn't work. I use the Programmer Dvorak Keyboard Layout. Can anyone help me this out? Thanks.
Hi Bowen! Just wanted to make sure you're aware Rawhide is the most 'unstable' development version of Fedora; it's more stable and tested than it used to be but we still don't recommend it for everyday use. It's awesome to have people running it (we want more!) but we do recommend you have a stable Fedora release around too just in case Rawhide goes wrong.
As for your problem - if you're running Workstation, then it's probably not working because you're not using X :) Workstation in Fedora 25 and Rawhide now defaults to using Wayland. So if that's your situation, you'll need to look up how to do the equivalent of xmodmap on Wayland - I don't know about this off-hand. I looked it up just quickly with Google, and here are some references that may help:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/501659/how-to-swap- command-and-control-keys-with-xkb-step-by-step https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/294286/how-can- i-autoload-xkb-customisations-in-gnome http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2011/05/31/x.html (note: from 2011, so things may have improved)
Basically xmodmap indeed doesn't work on Wayland, you need to customize the xkb configuration instead. xkb is...er...fun to learn about...hope those links help. :) Good luck! Maybe if you're successful you could write up a handy blog post or something explaining your findings?
Thanks a lot!
Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to test-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org
On Sun, 2016-09-25 at 13:44 -0500, Bowen Wang wrote:
Hi Adam, I have solved the keyboard remap problem. I will post my solution here. I used to use the xmodmap, but it doesn't work in Wayland anymore. So I dig into the xkb, I found two webpages particularly helpful. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/X_KeyBoard_extension http://www.charvolant.org/~doug/xkb/html/index.html
After reading these webpages, I have solved my problem. But my solution has its limits, I think it can only handle keyboard remap, but if you want to add some more advanced stuff on it, I don't think it will work.
To remap the keys, go to the directory: /usr/share/X11/xkb/keycodes/
The files are mappings from key code that sent from keyboard hardware and the key names that actually prcoessed by the X system. For example, <LALT>=64 This means that when X system received the keycode 64 from the keyboard, I will map it to the left alt key in the X system, and sent <LALT> to other programs in X to get the functions about that key. So the solution is pretty simple, suppose that you want to swap Left Ctrl and Left Alt, the original configuration file is like this: <LALT>=64 <LCTL>=37 What you need to do is just change it into: <LALT>=37 <LCTL>=64 then restart the laptop.
Glad you figured something out! However, you will probably want to research a bit further.
As a general rule, it's almost never correct to make a local configuration modification by editing a file in /usr . Files under /usr are usually owned by distribution packages and changes to them will not be preserved when the package is updated. So in this case, we can see:
[adamw@adam tmp]$ rpm -qf /usr/share/X11/xkb/keycodes/evdev xkeyboard- config-2.18-1.fc25.noarch
that file is owned by the xkeyboard-config package, and whenever that package gets an update, your edits to it will be overwritten.
If you keep researching on xkb, you should find a way to make your changes in a file under /etc (where system-wide local configuration is stored, by convention) or your home directory (where user-specific location configuration is stored).
Good luck!
Ok, I will try to find how to configure the keyboard remap in /etc directories, it seems that not easy to do.
Bowen On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:56:29PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sun, 2016-09-25 at 13:44 -0500, Bowen Wang wrote:
Hi Adam, I have solved the keyboard remap problem. I will post my solution here. I used to use the xmodmap, but it doesn't work in Wayland anymore. So I dig into the xkb, I found two webpages particularly helpful. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/X_KeyBoard_extension http://www.charvolant.org/~doug/xkb/html/index.html
After reading these webpages, I have solved my problem. But my solution has its limits, I think it can only handle keyboard remap, but if you want to add some more advanced stuff on it, I don't think it will work.
To remap the keys, go to the directory: /usr/share/X11/xkb/keycodes/
The files are mappings from key code that sent from keyboard hardware and the key names that actually prcoessed by the X system. For example, <LALT>=64 This means that when X system received the keycode 64 from the keyboard, I will map it to the left alt key in the X system, and sent <LALT> to other programs in X to get the functions about that key. So the solution is pretty simple, suppose that you want to swap Left Ctrl and Left Alt, the original configuration file is like this: <LALT>=64 <LCTL>=37 What you need to do is just change it into: <LALT>=37 <LCTL>=64 then restart the laptop.
Glad you figured something out! However, you will probably want to research a bit further.
As a general rule, it's almost never correct to make a local configuration modification by editing a file in /usr . Files under /usr are usually owned by distribution packages and changes to them will not be preserved when the package is updated. So in this case, we can see:
[adamw@adam tmp]$ rpm -qf /usr/share/X11/xkb/keycodes/evdev xkeyboard- config-2.18-1.fc25.noarch
that file is owned by the xkeyboard-config package, and whenever that package gets an update, your edits to it will be overwritten.
If you keep researching on xkb, you should find a way to make your changes in a file under /etc (where system-wide local configuration is stored, by convention) or your home directory (where user-specific location configuration is stored).
Good luck!
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