Hi there, I remember a copy paste problem which was (I think at least) solved, but I can see it again using rawhide. When you copy something in an application, by the time you close that application it's being erased from the clipboard. So you should keep the source application open till you paste that somewhere else.
Is it supposed to be normal behavior?
Best, Adrin.
Adrin Jalali wrote:
I remember a copy paste problem which was (I think at least) solved, but I can see it again using rawhide. When you copy something in an application, by the time you close that application it's being erased from the clipboard. So you should keep the source application open till you paste that somewhere else.
Is it supposed to be normal behavior?
This is just how the X11 clipboard works. The X11 clipboard contents are stored within the application "owning" the clipboard, if you close it, poof, there goes the clipboard. You need to run a clipboard manager such as Klipper, Glipper etc., which fixes this by taking ownership of the clipboard automatically.
Kevin Kofler
On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 01:51 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Adrin Jalali wrote:
I remember a copy paste problem which was (I think at least) solved, but I can see it again using rawhide. When you copy something in an application, by the time you close that application it's being erased from the clipboard. So you should keep the source application open till you paste that somewhere else.
Is it supposed to be normal behavior?
This is just how the X11 clipboard works. The X11 clipboard contents are stored within the application "owning" the clipboard, if you close it, poof, there goes the clipboard. You need to run a clipboard manager such as Klipper, Glipper etc., which fixes this by taking ownership of the clipboard automatically.
Adrin is right, though - GNOME's had a built-in clipboard manager for several releases now, so this works with most applications transparently.
However, it still seems to be working for me, with today's Rawhide. I just tested by copying something from gedit, closing gedit, and then pasting it into a gnome-terminal. Worked OK.
I can't find any references for this, though (I learned about it via Planet GNOME eons ago), so I wouldn't know how to tell what's gone wrong for Adrin.
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com wrote:
On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 01:51 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Adrin Jalali wrote:
I remember a copy paste problem which was (I think at least) solved, but I can see it again using rawhide. When you copy something in an application, by the time you close that application it's being erased from the clipboard. So you should keep the source application open till you paste that somewhere else.
Is it supposed to be normal behavior?
This is just how the X11 clipboard works. The X11 clipboard contents are stored within the application "owning" the clipboard, if you close it, poof, there goes the clipboard. You need to run a clipboard manager such as Klipper, Glipper etc., which fixes this by taking ownership of the clipboard automatically.
Adrin is right, though - GNOME's had a built-in clipboard manager for several releases now, so this works with most applications transparently.
However, it still seems to be working for me, with today's Rawhide. I just tested by copying something from gedit, closing gedit, and then pasting it into a gnome-terminal. Worked OK.
I can't find any references for this, though (I learned about it via Planet GNOME eons ago), so I wouldn't know how to tell what's gone wrong for Adrin.
This only works for the Ctrl+C / Ctrl+V way. If you select a text and try to paste using the middle mouse button it only works when the source app is open.
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 9:13 PM, drago01 drago01@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com wrote:
Adrin is right, though - GNOME's had a built-in clipboard manager for several releases now, so this works with most applications transparently.
However, it still seems to be working for me, with today's Rawhide. I just tested by copying something from gedit, closing gedit, and then pasting it into a gnome-terminal. Worked OK.
I can't find any references for this, though (I learned about it via Planet GNOME eons ago), so I wouldn't know how to tell what's gone wrong for Adrin.
This only works for the Ctrl+C / Ctrl+V way. If you select a text and try to paste using the middle mouse button it only works when the source app is open.
Actually glipper is not that bad ;) since I installed it I have no problem, but I think this feature is better to be in GNOME by default to handle clipboard.
Best, Adrin.
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 18:43 +0200, drago01 wrote:
Adrin is right, though - GNOME's had a built-in clipboard manager for several releases now, so this works with most applications transparently.
However, it still seems to be working for me, with today's Rawhide. I just tested by copying something from gedit, closing gedit, and then pasting it into a gnome-terminal. Worked OK.
I can't find any references for this, though (I learned about it via Planet GNOME eons ago), so I wouldn't know how to tell what's gone wrong for Adrin.
This only works for the Ctrl+C / Ctrl+V way. If you select a text and try to paste using the middle mouse button it only works when the source app is open.
I don't think that's a regression, though is it? Hasn't it always been that way?
On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 8:04 PM, Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com wrote:
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 18:43 +0200, drago01 wrote:
Adrin is right, though - GNOME's had a built-in clipboard manager for several releases now, so this works with most applications transparently.
However, it still seems to be working for me, with today's Rawhide. I just tested by copying something from gedit, closing gedit, and then pasting it into a gnome-terminal. Worked OK.
I can't find any references for this, though (I learned about it via Planet GNOME eons ago), so I wouldn't know how to tell what's gone wrong for Adrin.
This only works for the Ctrl+C / Ctrl+V way. If you select a text and try to paste using the middle mouse button it only works when the source app is open.
I don't think that's a regression, though is it? Hasn't it always been that way?
Yeah has always been the case.
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 20:57 +0200, drago01 wrote:
This only works for the Ctrl+C / Ctrl+V way. If you select a text and try to paste using the middle mouse button it only works when the source app is open.
I don't think that's a regression, though is it? Hasn't it always been that way?
Yeah has always been the case.
Right, so AFAICT, nothing's different for F11 - ctrl-c/ctrl-v style pasting works after the app closes (as long as it's sufficiently GNOME-y), and highlight/middle-click style never has.
if ctrl-c / ctrl-v style pasting has stopped working for you in a circumstance where it worked in f10, I think that would be considered a bug worth reporting with sufficient info to identify the problem.
Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2009-05-04 at 20:57 +0200, drago01 wrote:
This only works for the Ctrl+C / Ctrl+V way. If you select a text and try to paste using the middle mouse button it only works when the source app is open.
I don't think that's a regression, though is it? Hasn't it always been that way?
Yeah has always been the case.
Right, so AFAICT, nothing's different for F11 - ctrl-c/ctrl-v style pasting works after the app closes (as long as it's sufficiently GNOME-y), and highlight/middle-click style never has.
if ctrl-c / ctrl-v style pasting has stopped working for you in a circumstance where it worked in f10, I think that would be considered a bug worth reporting with sufficient info to identify the problem.
Middle mouse button paste has worked for me since F7 or so under Gnome with or without the "source" window being open. It even works under Synergy (cut from one machine, paste in another). If it's not so in F11, then yeah, I'd say it's broken.
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On 05/05/2009 01:22 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:
Middle mouse button paste has worked for me since F7 or so under Gnome with or without the "source" window being open. It even works under Synergy (cut from one machine, paste in another). If it's not so in F11, then yeah, I'd say it's broken.
Can you file a bug report, then?
Rahul
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 05/05/2009 01:22 AM, Rick Stevens wrote:
Middle mouse button paste has worked for me since F7 or so under Gnome with or without the "source" window being open. It even works under Synergy (cut from one machine, paste in another). If it's not so in F11, then yeah, I'd say it's broken.
Can you file a bug report, then?
Er, I'm not the OP, just commenting on other peoples' experiences. Sorry, Rahul. Probably shouldn't have stuck my oar in.
However, I may have run into something similar. VERY rarely when using gnome-terminals, middle-mouse-button pastes don't work--even with both the source and destination windows open. A CTRL-V to paste works. If I do a "reset" in the destination gnome-terminal, it works again.
Like I said, that's really rare. I think I've seen it twice in almost a year, and that may have been caused by the cat stomping on some key sequence that gronked it (my cat seems to like my keyboard...probably chasing the mouse around). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ricks@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - I'm afraid my karma just ran over your dogma - ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Rick Stevens wrote:
Middle mouse button paste has worked for me since F7 or so under Gnome with or without the "source" window being open. It even works under Synergy (cut from one machine, paste in another). If it's not so in F11, then yeah, I'd say it's broken.
I think you're mistaken. I can't middle-click paste from gedit to gnome-terminal after quitting gedit in F10, for instance. I'm in agreement with earlier posters, this has never been possible.
Middle mouse has worked for me since, um, 1990 or so under Xfree86 and SunOS before that. It's one of the significant advantages of Linux over Windows etc. (ctrl-C means "send the current process a SIGINT"; this microsoft-emulation is for the birds..)
I just noticed a problem in FC10; I'd left a gnome-terminal running for several days and copy/paste had stopped working reliably - could sometimes paste, but not copy. Starting a new instance seems OK. I think I'd seen that on FC9 too - after using a window for some time, it would screw up and then I'd have to kill it and start a new one. (I had suddenly panicked and thought someone had deliberately broken it, or made it optional or something stupid)
Seriously, middle-mouse paste being broken is a major usability issue.
On Tue, 2009-07-14 at 10:43 +0200, Andrew Daviel (adaviel) wrote:
Middle mouse has worked for me since, um, 1990 or so under Xfree86 and SunOS before that. It's one of the significant advantages of Linux over Windows etc. (ctrl-C means "send the current process a SIGINT"; this microsoft-emulation is for the birds..)
I just noticed a problem in FC10; I'd left a gnome-terminal running for several days and copy/paste had stopped working reliably - could sometimes paste, but not copy. Starting a new instance seems OK. I think I'd seen that on FC9 too - after using a window for some time, it would screw up and then I'd have to kill it and start a new one. (I had suddenly panicked and thought someone had deliberately broken it, or made it optional or something stupid)
Seriously, middle-mouse paste being broken is a major usability issue.
You might want to post this to fedora-list. Fedora-test-list is mostly about Rawhide (future F12).
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