In gnome-shell if I go to restart (upper right corner, power button icon) I have an 'install pending software updates' now for two days, but there's no other notification that there are pending software updates.
Is this change in behavior expected? Seems like a bug. Maybe I'll leave it alone for a couple more days and see if it continues to accumulate updates without any notification.
On Sex, 2016-12-23 at 15:52 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
In gnome-shell if I go to restart (upper right corner, power button icon) I have an 'install pending software updates' now for two days, but there's no other notification that there are pending software updates.
Is this change in behavior expected? Seems like a bug. Maybe I'll leave it alone for a couple more days and see if it continues to accumulate updates without any notification.
pkcon refresh force (should fix it) if yes, we have many bugs reports opened with this problem.
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=763566
in resume is a PackageKit cache age problem , try set cache age fewer in gnome-software ...
Cheers,
On 12/23/2016 11:52 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
In gnome-shell if I go to restart (upper right corner, power button icon) I have an 'install pending software updates' now for two days, but there's no other notification that there are pending software updates.
Is this change in behavior expected? Seems like a bug. Maybe I'll leave it alone for a couple more days and see if it continues to accumulate updates without any notification.
gnome-software notifies only once per week as per design (or more often when there are pending security updates available), but at the same time it does prepare the offline update as soon as it finds new updates so it's possible to install the updates manually more often if you want to, either through the gnome-shell shutdown dialog or from gnome-software itself.
I don't think there's been a behaviour change here, unless there's a bug somewhere of course.
On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 3:48 AM, Kalev Lember kalevlember@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/23/2016 11:52 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
In gnome-shell if I go to restart (upper right corner, power button icon) I have an 'install pending software updates' now for two days, but there's no other notification that there are pending software updates.
Is this change in behavior expected? Seems like a bug. Maybe I'll leave it alone for a couple more days and see if it continues to accumulate updates without any notification.
gnome-software notifies only once per week as per design (or more often when there are pending security updates available), but at the same time it does prepare the offline update as soon as it finds new updates so it's possible to install the updates manually more often if you want to, either through the gnome-shell shutdown dialog or from gnome-software itself.
I don't think there's been a behaviour change here, unless there's a bug somewhere of course.
A side effect of this, is multiple package versions are being downloaded but not installed; only the latest version is installed. a.) this is consuming bandwidth for no purpose and b.) PackageKit only removes the downloaded packages that it installs, anything not installed remains behind to take up space, never being deleted.
On 12/29/2016 07:20 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 3:48 AM, Kalev Lember <kalevlember@gmail.com mailto:kalevlember@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/23/2016 11:52 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > In gnome-shell if I go to restart (upper right corner, power button > icon) I have an 'install pending software updates' now for two days, > but there's no other notification that there are pending software > updates. > > Is this change in behavior expected? Seems like a bug. Maybe I'll > leave it alone for a couple more days and see if it continues to > accumulate updates without any notification. gnome-software notifies only once per week as per design (or more often when there are pending security updates available), but at the same time it does prepare the offline update as soon as it finds new updates so it's possible to install the updates manually more often if you want to, either through the gnome-shell shutdown dialog or from gnome-software itself. I don't think there's been a behaviour change here, unless there's a bug somewhere of course.A side effect of this, is multiple package versions are being downloaded but not installed; only the latest version is installed. a.) this is consuming bandwidth for no purpose and b.) PackageKit only removes the downloaded packages that it installs, anything not installed remains behind to take up space, never being deleted.
Yes, item b) is bad. It's caused a lot of comment over on the users list. IMHO, packagekit should replace any older versions of packages it downloads so that only the latest version of a package is held in the cache. There's no logical reason to hold obsoleted packages unless you have a desire to be a pack rat (or should that be "packagekit rat"?)
Alternately, make holding the old packages optional (with "purge" being the default) or doing something like dnf's "installonly_limit" thing. Not everyone has huge disks to hold masses of outdated content. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, AllDigital ricks@alldigital.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 226437340 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - Never put off 'til tommorrow what you can forget altogether! - ----------------------------------------------------------------------
On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Rick Stevens ricks@alldigital.com wrote:
On 12/29/2016 07:20 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 3:48 AM, Kalev Lember <kalevlember@gmail.com mailto:kalevlember@gmail.com> wrote:
On 12/23/2016 11:52 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > In gnome-shell if I go to restart (upper right corner, power button > icon) I have an 'install pending software updates' now for twodays,
> but there's no other notification that there are pending software > updates. > > Is this change in behavior expected? Seems like a bug. Maybe I'll > leave it alone for a couple more days and see if it continues to > accumulate updates without any notification. gnome-software notifies only once per week as per design (or moreoften
when there are pending security updates available), but at the sametime
it does prepare the offline update as soon as it finds new updates so it's possible to install the updates manually more often if you wantto,
either through the gnome-shell shutdown dialog or from gnome-software itself. I don't think there's been a behaviour change here, unless there's abug
somewhere of course.A side effect of this, is multiple package versions are being downloaded but not installed; only the latest version is installed. a.) this is consuming bandwidth for no purpose and b.) PackageKit only removes the downloaded packages that it installs, anything not installed remains behind to take up space, never being deleted.
Yes, item b) is bad. It's caused a lot of comment over on the users list. IMHO, packagekit should replace any older versions of packages it downloads so that only the latest version of a package is held in the cache. There's no logical reason to hold obsoleted packages unless you have a desire to be a pack rat (or should that be "packagekit rat"?)
Alternately, make holding the old packages optional (with "purge" being the default) or doing something like dnf's "installonly_limit" thing. Not everyone has huge disks to hold masses of outdated content.
Seems complicated.
I think whatever update checking frequency PK/gnome-software is set to use, that it commits to downloading what it needs at that time, installs those items, and cleans them up. I think problem a.) is what sets up problem b.), and it'd be easier to just stop downloading stuff it has no intention of even installing.
OK so today I'm getting notifications there are pending updates but they won't apply.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1409268
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