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[Bug 452488] New: Typo
by Red Hat Bugzilla 17 Sep '08

17 Sep '08

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=452488 Summary: Typo Product: Fedora Localization Version: unspecified Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: low Priority: low Component: Other language AssignedTo: dimitris(a)glezos.com ReportedBy: mgiri(a)redhat.com QAContact: aalam(a)redhat.com CC: fedora-trans-list(a)redhat.com Description of problem: Typo Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): fedora-9 How reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1.Go to the po file of policycoreutils.HEAD ,msgid:362 2.Check the spell of 'Enforcment'in that string 3. Actual results: It is 'Enforcment' Expected results: It should be 'Enforcement' Additional info: -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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[Bug 441332] New: failed to commit new local code "id" for translation
by Red Hat Bugzilla 10 Sep '08

10 Sep '08

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=441332 Summary: failed to commit new local code "id" for translation Product: Fedora Localization Version: unspecified Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: low Priority: low Component: Other language AssignedTo: dimitris(a)glezos.com ReportedBy: dheche(a)songolimo.net QAContact: aalam(a)redhat.com CC: fedora-trans-list(a)redhat.com Description of problem: I tried to commit new legalnotice for local code id, but got error Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): How reproducible: Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3. Actual results: [dheche@boncos common]$ cvs ci -m 'Added legal notices for id' legalnotice-*-id.xml Enter passphrase for key '/home/dheche/.ssh/id_dsa': RCS file: /cvs/docs/docs-common/common/legalnotice-opl-id.xml,v done cvs commit: ERROR: cannot write file /cvs/docs/docs-common/common/legalnotice-opl-id.xml,v: Permission denied RCS file: /cvs/docs/docs-common/common/legalnotice-relnotes-id.xml,v done cvs commit: ERROR: cannot write file /cvs/docs/docs-common/common/legalnotice-relnotes-id.xml,v: Permission denied Expected results: Additional info: -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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[Bug 450682] New: Typo
by Red Hat Bugzilla 09 Sep '08

09 Sep '08

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=450682 Summary: Typo Product: Fedora Localization Version: unspecified Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: low Priority: low Component: Other language AssignedTo: dimitris(a)glezos.com ReportedBy: mgiri(a)redhat.com QAContact: aalam(a)redhat.com CC: fedora-trans-list(a)redhat.com Description of problem: Spelling mistake in file: setroubleshoot.tip string no:86 instead of 'address' it is written 'addess' Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): fedora-9 How reproducible: Always Steps to Reproduce: 1.Download po file named setroubleshoot.tip 2.Go to the string no 86, line no 4 3.Check the spelling of 'address' Actual results: It is addess Expected results: It should be address Additional info: ------- Additional Comments From mgiri(a)redhat.com 2008-06-10 08:46 EST ------- Created an attachment (id=308806) --> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=308806&action=view) downloaded file setroubleshoot.tip -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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[Bug 438158] New: TQSG Needs an update!
by Red Hat Bugzilla 31 Aug '08

31 Aug '08

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=438158 Summary: TQSG Needs an update! Product: Fedora Localization Version: unspecified Platform: All OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: low Priority: low Component: Website AssignedTo: dimitris(a)glezos.com ReportedBy: ankit(a)redhat.com QAContact: diegobz(a)gmail.com CC: aalam@redhat.com,fedora-trans-list@redhat.com Description of problem: I have revisited the TQSG section (http://docs.fedoraproject.org/translation-quick-start-guide/en_US/) for localization after the new Fedora Account System. I found many of the things needs an update. I have no idea, how to edit it, and have limited information on some of the sections. So, can someone here, please help me to update the TQSG or better directly update it? Btw, here are the sections needs an update, I think: 2.4, 2.5, 2.6, 2.7 Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable): How reproducible: Steps to Reproduce: 1. 2. 3. Actual results: Expected results: Additional info: -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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[Bug 433552] New: New Vietnamese translation for system-config-printer
by Red Hat Bugzilla 28 Aug '08

28 Aug '08

Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=433552 Summary: New Vietnamese translation for system-config-printer Product: Fedora Localization Version: unspecified Platform: All URL: http://bugs.debian.org/466377 OS/Version: Linux Status: NEW Severity: low Priority: low Component: Other language AssignedTo: dimitris(a)glezos.com ReportedBy: joss(a)debian.org QAContact: aalam(a)redhat.com CC: fedora-trans-list(a)redhat.com Here is a Vietnamese translation for system-config-printer 0.7.81. ------- Additional Comments From joss(a)debian.org 2008-02-19 18:12 EST ------- Created an attachment (id=295353) --> (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=295353&action=view) New translation from Clytie Siddall -- Configure bugmail: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/userprefs.cgi?tab=email ------- You are receiving this mail because: ------- You are on the CC list for the bug, or are watching someone who is.

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Avahi added to Transifex
by Dimitris Glezos 25 Jun '08

25 Jun '08

I'm happy to say we now have Avahi setup to receive translations through Transifex: https://translate.fedoraproject.org/submit/module/avahi/ Avahi is the second externally-hosted project being added to Transifex after PackageKit. Yay for upstream contributions. Please note that avahi's statistics interface still shows svn because of some minor issues in updating our stats instance. Will look into it once I get some free time, but until then, you can grab your POT/PO like this: git clone git://git.0pointer.de/avahi.git cd avahi/po/ intltool-update --pot cp avahi.pot lang.po <translate, submit through Tx> -d -- Dimitris Glezos Jabber ID: glezos(a)jabber.org, GPG: 0xA5A04C3B http://dimitris.glezos.com/ "He who gives up functionality for ease of use loses both and deserves neither." (Anonymous) --

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which module is
by Domingo Becker 20 Jun '08

20 Jun '08

When I send several documents to a printer, an icon appears by the user's name, in the icon notification area. I can't find the program's name! When I click on it, it doesn't show an "about..." option in the menu. Does anybody know its name? regards Domingo Becker (es)

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Sharing the translation organization between teams
by pablo.martin-gomez 20 Jun '08

20 Jun '08

Although we have a good doc for how the translation individual process works, each team is free to organize itself its workflow/process which is completely normal as the number of translators, the availability of each one, etc. are variables. However, each team creates his own process and so each new team have to reinvent the wheel, or doesn't know which tools to use or how improve the organization. So be open, share your team experience, process, tools, workflow, and all that can be useful to share :-) To quite organize the information, I propose this pseudo-form : * Your team language : * How many (active) members have you ? * How do you do proceed teach/integrate a newbie ? * How do you proceed to report the new untranslated or fuzzy string, and then give them to a translator ? * What is your process to assure a good Q&A of the translation ? * How do you proceed with the big po (as spec or any po with more than 500 strings) and for the po with a deadline (as release-notes) ? * How do you proceed to translate the wiki or the doc ? * How do you proceed to commit the finished po ? * Anything else which could be interesting to share (meetings, dictionaries) : I will send the form filled soon for the french team (unless Thomas want to do it :-)) Regards, Pablo (Bouska) P.S.: sorry to send it again, but I've done an error by responding to Dimitris mail

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FLP Meeting 2008-06-17 IRC Log
by Dimitris Glezos 20 Jun '08

20 Jun '08

* glezos has changed the topic to: /topic Fedora Localization Group meeting -- Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Meetings#agenda -- Init <glezos> hi all <runa_b> hello <glezos> it's da translations time <couf> hi * drago01_ is now known as drago01 <glezos> <meeting> <glezos> rollcall.. <couf> BartCouvreur (nl) <runa_b> Runa Bhattacharjee (bn_IN) <Raven46> Piotr Drąg (pl) * stickster is now known as stickster_afk <glezos> Dimitris Glezos (el) <tombolinux> Francesco Tombolini (it) <G> Nigel Jones (wiki) <glezos> right on <glezos> How is everyone? <rsc> Robert Scheck (de) * MrTom (n=mrtom@fedora/MrTom) has joined #fedora-meeting <MrTom> ThomasCanniot <glezos> A small agenda for today can be found at the usual place: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Meetings#agenda <glezos> Before going on with F10 plans, I'd like to ask if we have any lessons learned from the F9 process <glezos> I think it was mentioned that we still have some issues of transltaions not being shipped <runa_b> And the git submission bugs...they keep cropping up :( <glezos> I'm not sure of an easy solution to this <couf> did we have an extra rebuild of the translations before final freeze? <glezos> couf: that's up to each maintainer. <couf> glezos: yes, but we did want to request that, no? * jeff_hann has quit () <glezos> couf: that's something we keep reminding folks, yes <glezos> The window between translation deadline and feature freeze was 1 day, which this time round we'll increase <glezos> f13: Can we have at least 5 days for this ^? <f13> glezos: drop comments https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/105 please <glezos> f13: okey, thanks <glezos> runa_b: Is that an issue with our toolchain? <glezos> URL/ticket? <runa_b> glezos: i saw a few bugs filed for a few packages...lemme dig them up <glezos> couf: if we want to make sure rebuilds happen, we'll have to find a way to track them. Either manually or automatically <runa_b> glezos: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-May/msg00083.html <glezos> couf: The automagic one sounds like a feature for bodhi (lmacken). <glezos> Ie. show from the n packages we care about, which have (not) received updates between two dates <couf> glezos: F10 target? <glezos> right <glezos> well, let's bring it to the list and a code hacker might be interested in tackling it Raven46 rdieter ricky rnorwood rsc runa_b * MikeC (n=mike@fedora/MikeC) has joined #Fedora-Meeting <glezos> runa_b: I think we have an open ticket for it which hasn't received much attention I'm afraid. <runa_b> glezos: aah ok * JSchmitt has quit ("Konversation terminated!") <glezos> okey -- last meeting's action items: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2008-April/msg00218.html <glezos> The elections results should have appeared on FWN <glezos> ankit is looking into increasing our docs language coverage for F10 with the internally-supported languages <glezos> anything else we should mention? <couf> not really, lets move on <glezos> okey * glezos has changed the topic to: /topic Fedora Localization Group meeting -- Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Meetings#agenda -- Define plan of action for F10 <glezos> What should we be looking for F10? * sm|CPU_ has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)) * sm|CPU (i=sankarsh(a)72.20.2.58) has joined #fedora-meeting <couf> stabilizing our current tools <couf> well maybe "stabilizing" isn't the correct word, but just making them work better <couf> we've got a plaform now, let's start to use it's full potential :) <glezos> couf: What we know about this is that we have a few volunteers working on it <tombolinux> when can we see a localization for transifex? is there a time prevision? <couf> glezos: which is absolutly great <glezos> tombolinux: yes, i18n support has landed on the development branch. By the end of the next month I'd expect to have an update on our instance. <glezos> couf: I think an action list of what Fedora needs from Tx would be highly valuable. There are a few bugs open, anything not addressed there should probably have a ticket opened. <tombolinux> glezos: thanks <couf> glezos: yes, I agree, the fact is we need to "find" thoose needs <glezos> couf: good idea. let's start a discussion on the list. <couf> sure <glezos> For those not following the transifex-devel mailing list, Diego is working on adding a few usability enhancements, and the maintainer of Vertimus, a workflow management layer, decided to port it to Transifex. <glezos> So I expect by September to have a number of major enhacements. <glezos> Including integration of Damned Lies into Transifex <couf> neat <glezos> couf: would you bring this on the list? <couf> glezos: sure <glezos> awesome * johnij (n=janis(a)77-103-220-221.cable.ubr13.croy.blueyonder.co.uk) has joined #fedora-meeting * glezos has changed the topic to: /topic Fedora Localization Group meeting -- Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Meetings#agenda -- Wiki translations (start thread on list) <glezos> G: fire away <tombolinux> https://launchpad.net/vertimus looks cool :) <G> Ahh right, so we are looking at the best way to 'translate' the wiki at the moment, moin had some special voodoo that doesn't exist in Mediawiki to handle multiple languages on one wiki <G> the current plan is to have one instance per language arranged in the format /xx(_XX)/wiki/ which would be manually editable (including translations for pagenames) * J5 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) <glezos> G: and I imagine, each page would link to the respective translated pages that exist, like Wikipedia <G> It'd mean quite a bit of manual work to translate the whole wiki (and some of it doesn't need translating such as user pages) <G> glezos: yes, interwikis are supported * J5 (n=quintice@nat/redhat-us/x-567c27faab70bf7e) has joined #fedora-meeting <G> I just got my test instance (bar auth) workin again, so https://publictest10.fedoraproject.org/en/wiki <G> there is also /fr/wiki on that server <glezos> G: how was /pt/wiki/ selected? <tombolinux> will the current pages automatically migrated to the new system/format? <G> glezos: fits in with the rest of the scheme of things /en/home /fr/home /de/get-fedora etc <glezos> G: ok. makes sense. <G> tombolinux: no, thats still manual work sadly <G> .ticket 609 <zodbot> G: #609 (Wiki i18n/l10n Setup) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/projects/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/609 <glezos> G: good work. <glezos> G: if you'd like some feedback from the teams, drop an email to -trans-list <G> thats the ticket I'm using to track the progress of everything <couf> another idea that involves this, is something that came up in a Docs meeting recently <G> glezos: shall do (router is bricked at the moment but once I get a new one and it's all ready, they I will) <couf> *if* possible: have mediawiki export the most import pages as pot file, add it into transifex and on commit it pushes to the tranlsated wiki <G> couf: ahh yes, I havn't looked into that yet <couf> G: I'd consider that to be secondary, if we have working wikis, we'll be pretty content :) <G> As an outsider to the l10n process etc, I see two problems (minor) <G> a) Would POT-based translation allow translated page titles (a nice feature that Mediawiki has that doesn't break interwikis) b) Lack of 'preview' for editors <G> But it is something that could (and should) be looked into <glezos> I think that unless we can truly provide a robust workflow with mediawiki, any automated process (like POT files) will have problems. <glezos> We should definitely look into it, and I'd be interested in doing so as well <G> Anyway, unless you guys have any questions that's all from me <johnij> when I translate always need a preview or some proofreading <glezos> So to drop my POV here: A good solution for wiki translations would be for the page author to choose if he'd like the page to be translated from a POT file or in-place <glezos> The POT pages are easier to keep up-to-date (a change in the page fuzzifies the PO files, hence draws the attention of the translator) <tombolinux> G: the wiki language shoul be selected by the browser, by a button like in opensuse or is there another method? <glezos> the in-place solution is easier and gives flexibility of altering the content (add paragraphs, etc) but might lose sync <G> tombolinux: right sidebar <glezos> I think the in-place solution, for now, even if it needs manual moving of pages, is sufficient. <couf> well the POT pages would be the more formalized pages imo <G> glezos: spot on, the counteraction for the latter would if we can setup a 'all wiki pages to foo-list@' configuration <glezos> couf: right <G> couf: yeah, and we might be able to get over the hurdle of 'true translations (i.e. page titles as well)' that way <couf> G: right * runa_b has quit ("দ্রুত পলায়ন, পেছনে ভাল্লুক আসিতেছে") * glezos wonders if we need such support quickly and whether sponsoring it might make sense <G> glezos: thats something that I can't really comment on, I'm monolingual and to be honest I have no clue on what works best for you guys <glezos> G: right, this is sth the Community Architecture team or the RH translation teams could comment on. <glezos> anyway <glezos> We covered point 4 of the agenda before * glezos has changed the topic to: /topic Fedora Localization Group meeting -- Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Meetings#agenda -- Open floor <glezos> Any other business? <Raven46> ! <couf> G: thanks <Raven46> should I push recent changes in dl LIVE (mostly F9 -> rawhide change, clean-up, and some new modules added)? <G> couf: no problem, have a good day all, breakfast time now :) <glezos> G: keep up the good work. <johnij> nearly to get in bed :))) <glezos> Raven46: would you like me to test the changes first? <Raven46> glezos: yep <glezos> Raven46: on it. <glezos> any other topic? <Raven46> I don't have much free time this month, unfortunately :( <Raven46> glezos: thanks <glezos> Raven46: for a volunteer, you've done a stellar job maintaining our DL branches <glezos> thank you <couf> Raven46: i agree with glezos, your work is enourmous * peters-tx has quit (Remote closed the connection) <Raven46> no problem, that's fun for me :) <glezos> Raven46: I hope we can get someone to help you out in maintaining our l10n, as part of his dayjob. * J5 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) <glezos> right on * J5 (n=quintice(a)66.187.234.199) has joined #fedora-meeting <Raven46> glezos: would be awesome <glezos> Unless there's anything else, closing the party in 30 <couf> close away <glezos> </meeting> <glezos> thanks all <couf> next meeting, in two weeks? <glezos> couf: sounds like a plan. 14:00 UTC? <glezos> oops <glezos> 11 UTC <glezos> couf: do you have some free time for the meeting minutes? * hanthana has quit (Remote closed the connection) <couf> glezos: well not directly, will be tomorrow evening, but will do'em <glezos> couf: thanks * glezos will be on the road mostly tomorrow <glezos> off to #fedora-l10n * glezos has changed the topic to: Channel is used by various Fedora groups and committees for their regular meetings | Note that meetings often get logged | For questions about using Fedora please ask in #fedora | See http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/FedoraMeetingChannel for meeting schedule

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Maintainers not updating LINGUAS regularly
by Xavi Conde 19 Jun '08

19 Jun '08

Hi all, I just requested to add missing languages to LINGUAS file for some modules. I think I'd rather ask the mantainers instead of doing it myself, since this file is a sensible part of the building process and I'm not able to build each module myself to test the change. However, even if the change is not very difficult to apply, audit-viewer maintainer considers it's better to wait until release time. Please read the following bugzilla thread: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451664 Sometimes I think localization is not taken into consideration as it should. I think maintainers should update the LINGUAS file as often as possible. Regards! -- HAL I am putting myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do. + Google talk/Jabber: xavi.conde a gmail.com

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