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pilot and palm sync
by Zoltan Kota 29 Apr '08

29 Apr '08

Hi, I have just got a Palm Z22. I would like to use it with jpilot under F8 with the latest updates. I set the device to 'usb:' in jpilot. It seems to work as root but not with a normal user! Some permissions? What should I check? Thanks. Zoltan

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apache - bad request
by Pedro Freire 26 Apr '08

26 Apr '08

Hi list, don't know if this was already answered. If so ... sorry I installed Fedora 8 with apache running. What is happening is that I can access the Apache Fedora test page if I use "localhost" as the address, BUT if I use 127.0.0.1 (or it's LAN IP) I receive a Bad Request "Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand." Any idea why ? This happens right after installation, without changing any config file.

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Fedora 8: X/Nautilus eating CPU
by wwp 19 Apr '08

19 Apr '08

Hello all, now that my Fedora 8 is fully set up, I notice periodical short hangs of the Desktop, making its use quite uncomfortable. `top` tells me that the X and Nautilus processes are eating up to 30% of CPU every 15-20sec approximately (I can hear some disk activity as well). Sensors applets are configured to poll on a longer period basis so it's probably not them. No cron activity has been set. Anyway, I was running the same applets with my Fedora Core 5 and GNOME and never encountered such behaviour before. For the record, nautilus-action is installed and there are few mounts (USB disks) visible onto the Desktop. I've tried closing all apps (but GNOME Desktop) and this still happens. Anybody has this too? Or any hint? Regards, -- wwp

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Fedora Makes a Terrible Server?
by Valent Turkovic 14 Apr '08

14 Apr '08

http://www.mjmwired.net/linux/2008/02/11/fedora-makes-a-terrible-server/ What is your experience ? Cheers, Valent. -- http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com/ linux, blog, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic

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Re: ****Re: ****Re: [OT] HELP!!! mail attack
by Craig White 12 Apr '08

12 Apr '08

On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 10:17 -0700, Les wrote: > On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 09:35 -0700, Craig White wrote: > > On Fri, 2008-03-28 at 08:29 -0700, Les wrote: > > > > > > > But is 99.99% delivery sufficient? I receive more than 150 emails per > > > day (ones that I am interested in), and every few days I need to receive > > > certain emails about customer relations and ongoing projects. 99.99 > > > percent means I would miss one every 66 days. If the one that I miss > > > cost me a contract, it might not matter whether I received the rest or > > > not. Currently I have to parse through the junk mail locally and > > > remotely about once a week. the ISP junk folder often has more than > > > 1200 emails in it. THe local one about 30. This adds about 1/2 day of > > > overhead every week to recapture what should have come through. > > > Personally I think the world needs to eliminate spam, or at least make > > > every effort to seriously reduce it. > > ---- > > but your example completely misses the point. > > > > the 'Junk' directory is a result of some type of agent parsing accepted > > e-mail, scoring it and redirecting it based on a score. > > > > The point of greylisting is always about (or virtually always...depends > > upon various implementations anyway) sender/recipient/smtp server > > 'tuples' and 'Temporary Failure' /SMTP result codes 450 and whether the > > sender attempts redelivery. > > > > http://www.greylisting.org/ > > > > I would suggest that rather than prove the argument about the problems > > with greylisting, you have proven the opposite because if you can lop > > approximately 70% of that junk mail off the top via greylisting, you > > wouldn't have to look through so much 'junk' to find the false positives > > that inevitably occur with any type of spam scoring system. > > > > Craig > > I cannot argue the value of greylisting. But efficiency is in the eye > of the beholder. My time is limited. My work valuable, and my customer > correspondence is dictated by my customer, not my email policy. I am at > the mercy of the ISP here, and the customer. Yet I am the one who > suffers loss, not the ISP, not the customer who will find someone to do > his work. Yet you as the web person thinks this is effective. I cannot > speak to school systems, only professional uses. Time is money and lost > opportunity is even more valuable, resulting in loss that cannot be > measured, yet ultimately may determine the success or failure of my > business. > > I would like to take this thought "out of the box". The methods > currently in place, grey listing, parsing for key words, and other > simplistic means, while effective at reducing traffic are not really the > desired solution by users, who would like 100% success in getting their > desired email. And while I cannot spout statistics about loss, I know > it happens from personal experience. The question at hand is how to > avoid even more loss. It is a quality issue, and today the quality > standard is not 99.99%, it is 99.9999% (six nines or six sigma) in most > industries. To say that 99.99 is good enough is the path for GM and > Ford, not Toyota and Nissan. Think of it that way. So how do we > improve by two decades of quality in this "war" against spam? ---- greylisting is just one of a lot of tools available to the mail server administrator - all of them are calibrated to minimize the junk mail delivered to the end users and of course minimizing delivery failures and false positive scoring by various mechanisms. End users of course are the ones ultimately affected and you seemingly want to open an end user discussion about a server level technology...please don't as it won't provide clarity to anyone. If you are losing e-mails, evaluate the filtering system that you use at end user level and discuss the methodologies employed by your mail provider with them. Craig

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CORBA errors on GNOME login
by Matthew Saltzman 11 Apr '08

11 Apr '08

Running GNOME in fully updated F8 on a dual-core x86_64. When I log in, several apps or applets produce pop-up error boxes with the following text: An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for <applet>. Some of your configuration settings may not work properly. Clicking the "details" button produces one to several occurrences of the message: Adding client to server's list failed, CORBA error: IDL:omg.org/CORBA/COMM_FAILURE:1.0 This started a while back, and it would occur on the first login after boot, but subsequent logins would work fine. More recently, it's started happening on every login. The applets that produce the error vary, but they include - Power Manager - gnome-terminal - Evolution's calendar/alarm app - nm-applet and others. Anybody have a clue what's going on? Which component should I BZ? TIA. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs

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Linux is KING - Couldn't be hacked - Mac, Vista went down in flames
by Jim 07 Apr '08

07 Apr '08

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gorged harddrive
by charles f. zeitler 07 Apr '08

07 Apr '08

i've been pruning my "downloads" disk, rather drastically, and not making a dent. today some more, less drastic but still hefty, same result. revisited du- checked it twice - three times- yup, it reports one directory at 800+ gb- on a 400gb disk! fsck (forced) failed to report any problems, there don't seem to be any symlinks, and the sub-direcory sizes are sane... any ideas welcome, and appreciated. charles zeitler : Do What Thou Wilt : : Shall Be : : The Whole of The Law : --Aleister Crowley--

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Where's the bluetooth jargon demystifier?
by Tom Horsley 07 Apr '08

07 Apr '08

I go to the official bluez-utils web site and their documentation page basically says "You don't want to look at our docs, they suck.". I go to the official bluetooth web site and their documentation either tells me why I ought to be making bluetooth devices or talks about radio spectrum and communications layers. Where is the web page that explains to a human what the gibberish in the hcid.conf man page actually means? All I'm trying to do is arrange for my bluetooth keyboard (which definitely works with manual poking and prodding) to work automatically once my fedora 8 system has booted. Seems like it ought to be a simple task :-).

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Fedora Core 8 and dvd::rip from freshrpm's problem
by Joseph L. Casale 06 Apr '08

06 Apr '08

After a clean install of fc8, a full yum update, I then add freshrpms and install dvdrip. I then setup a project, rip the dvd, but the preview fails. I have searched their forum and found some issues but it seems non apply, there is no actual error other then that the file isn't created? Anyone know what could be wrong? Thanks! jlc

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