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assertion in NetworkManager
by Philipp Böhm 09 Jun '10

09 Jun '10

Hello @all, after upgrading to Fedora 12 I get some problems with NetworkManager for example Wireless Networks were disabled and you couldn't avtivate this. Some entries in /var/log/messages shows me an assertion in NetworkManager. I will post these line and I hope that somebody can help me. My wireless-device is an Atheros AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (wlan0). /var/log/messages: Nov 22 11:00:18 philipps-toshi NetworkManager: <info> Wireless now enabled by radio killswitch Nov 22 11:00:18 philipps-toshi rpc.statd[1270]: Version 1.2.1 Starting Nov 22 11:00:19 philipps-toshi NetworkManager: ifcfg-rh: parsing /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wlan0 ... Nov 22 11:00:19 philipps-toshi NetworkManager: ifcfg-rh: error: Missing SSID Nov 22 11:00:19 philipps-toshi NetworkManager: ifcfg-rh: parsing /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 ... Nov 22 11:00:19 philipps-toshi NetworkManager: ifcfg-rh: read connection 'System eth0' Nov 22 11:00:19 philipps-toshi NetworkManager: ifcfg-rh: parsing /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-lo ... Nov 22 11:00:19 philipps-toshi NetworkManager: <info> (wlan0): driver supports SSID scans (scan_capa 0x01). Nov 22 11:00:19 philipps-toshi NetworkManager: <info> (wlan0): new 802.11 WiFi device (driver: 'ath5k') Nov 22 11:00:19 philipps-toshi NetworkManager: <info> (wlan0): exported as /org/freedesktop/NetworkManager/Devices/0 Nov 22 11:00:19 philipps-toshi NetworkManager: <info> (wlan0): now managed Nov 22 11:00:19 philipps-toshi NetworkManager: <info> (wlan0): device state change: 1 -> 2 (reason 2) Nov 22 11:00:19 philipps-toshi NetworkManager: <info> (wlan0): bringing up device. Nov 22 11:00:19 philipps-toshi kernel: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready Nov 22 11:00:19 philipps-toshi NetworkManager: <info> (wlan0): preparing device. Nov 22 11:00:19 philipps-toshi NetworkManager: <info> (wlan0): deactivating device (reason: 2). Nov 22 11:00:19 philipps-toshi NetworkManager: supplicant_interface_acquire: assertion `mgr_state == NM_SUPPLICANT_MANAGER_STATE_IDLE' failed

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Fedora 11 GDM - unwanted list of all local users and impossible to customize?
by jaivuk 31 May '10

31 May '10

Hello guys, I did not use gdm for some time and now I'm not happy how it looks in Fedora 11. First of all - the list of local users is unacceptable from security reasons. Even if it supports such "an " option - how it can be the default one?! Second problem I have is shutdown button (and possibly restart as well) - when you click on shutdown button by mistake, system will shut - there is no confirmation dialog. I also tried to find some ways how to customize gdm in Fedora 11 but I did not find any usable guide. Can anybody please advise me how can I have prompt asking for username only (showing last logged user at maximum) and not displaying the list of all local users? Also can I somehow add confirmation or remove shutdown restart buttons from gdm screen? Or can you please advise any alternative to gdm? Thank you very much, Jan

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Fedora 12, Xorg, and Apex Outlook KVM, - can't nail resolution
by Styma, Robert E (Robert) 26 May '10

26 May '10

Hi, I've been looking at this for some time in both the archives of the list and the web in general. The problem is that when my Fedora 12 machine is connected though the KVM (Apex Outlook 8 port) the monitor shows up as "Unknown" and the resolution is limited to 800x600. If I plug the monitor directly into the machine, it resolves just fine and I have the full range of resolutions. I tried an number of things so far and the one which seemed most promising was to plug the monitor directly into the machine and go to run level 3. I then ran "xorg -configure" which created /root/xorg.conf.new (I may be remembering the syntax of the command incorrectly). I copied that to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and uncommented the NoDDC option with the syntax: Option "NoDDC" "True" Unfortunately the results are unchanged. The Xorg.0.log appears to show that the xorg.conf file is being read, but it goes out and probes the monitor anyway. http://www.styma.org/xorg.conf http://www.styma.org/Xorg.0.log I have put the xorg.conf file and Xorg.0.log out at my web site in the hope someone can give me a pointer on how to make X use what I tell it in the xorg.conf file and not do the probes itself. Note that my Fedora 6 machine, Redhat 9 machine, sparc 20, and assorted Windows machines work fine. I appreciate any time and help which can be offered. Bob Styma

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Rendering chart from bootchart
by Suvayu Ali 21 May '10

21 May '10

Hi everyone, I have been seeing very long boot times for the last few months so I ran bootchart. But I can't render the chart after booting. The web interface seems to be down. And the java application supplied with bootchart generates the following error. > $ java -jar /usr/share/java/bootchart.jar > Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/commons/cli/ParseException > Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.commons.cli.ParseException > at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:217) > at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) > at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:205) > at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:319) > at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:294) > at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:264) > at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:332) > Could not find the main class: org.bootchart.Main. Program will exit. I have the Java Development Kit files installed: > $ rpm -qa *openjdk* > java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-30.b16.fc11.x86_64 > java-1.6.0-openjdk-devel-1.6.0.0-30.b16.fc11.x86_64 > java-1.6.0-openjdk-plugin-1.6.0.0-30.b16.fc11.x86_64 What seems to be wrong? -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free.

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F12 crash
by Nermin Celik 27 Apr '10

27 Apr '10

Hi, I installed Fedora 12 x86-64 onto Hp Z800 workstation, had a problem with software updates so used $su -c 'yum update', problem was fixed. Installed Adobe Acrobat Reader. Downloaded few other programs but did not install them. Then, the screen froze. Tried Ctrl-Alt-Del to restart, didn't work, so reset the machine from the power button. Then someting very interesting happened - machine went into a loop mode, started, failed to boot fedora, shutdown, restarted by itself, failed to boot fedora, shutdown...etc about six times. Then I just shut the machine off. Before fedora could be loaded, the pc just shutdown in each case. At start tried pressing F10 but didn't work. Has anyone else experinced a similar problem? Nermin

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DVD deltaisos available for Fedora 12 -> Fedora Unity 20100303 12 (i386 and x86_64)
by Andre Robatino 24 Apr '10

24 Apr '10

I've made DVD deltaisos available which update from Fedora 12 to the recently released Fedora Unity 20100303 12 (second respin). i386: Fraction of full ISO size: 18.8% applydeltaiso's approximate running time: 32 minutes md5sum of deltaiso: 67a8c551850b320bd45560b7e01c7ddc x86_64: Fraction of full ISO size: 19.9% applydeltaiso's approximate running time: 38 minutes md5sum of deltaiso: d90c343aaf38746250dc6cd7e4014569 These are available at http://thepiratebay.org/user/andre14965/ Instructions are at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Delta_ISOs Each torrent page also has a direct download link in the comments. These expire after a certain time so I'll try to post new comments with working links when that happens.

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Re: [OT] Deafening silence
by Russell Miller 23 Apr '10

23 Apr '10

On Saturday 13 March 2010 02:58:48 pm Craig White wrote: > you are completely irrelevant... not that I have any ability to change > that and I surely respect your right, as a Fedora user to post on the > list. > > In the future, would you please mark your irrelevant rantings as OT (off > topic)? > > You really don't want to know what I think when I read this. > > Craig The section that you posted was a little out of line, Craig, granted. However. Your response is also indicative of the exact problem he's referring to! The users and bug reports are, by and large, irrelevant. Mine certainly have been. As I said, sometimes I did not give enough info, but it also really didn't *matter*. For example, pulseaudio. It was introduced in a state that was pretty much unusable for me. Sound only started working when I turned it off. I filed a bug report. I supplied all the info requested. As I remember, might as well have been a black hole. Someone insisted it wasn't even a bug. I responded, yes, it was. They said I didn't put it in the right place. I responded, then move it to the right place instead of closing it. Someone said "yeah, you're probably right, but too bad." Bug closed. Got fixed on its own accord at some point in the future. Until then I just disabled pulseaudio. What about selinux? At the SCALE conference, Karsten Wade gave the keynote and acknowledged that selinux was handled badly, and also acknowledged that it was a huge PR problem - people are still reflexively turning it off because of the damage the Fedora project did to its reputation. I can't even turn it on at my workplace because no one trusts it - and FEDORA did that! Fedora, and Red Hat. And it's not getting any better, at least from my experience. We are *not* irrelevant. I'm not, and neither is the OP, and the attitude that says we are is the *problem*. --Russell

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RLIMIT_DATA problem: NOTABUG?
by Matt McCutchen 14 Apr '10

14 Apr '10

I tried to prevent buggy programs from bringing my system to a halt by setting an RLIMIT_DATA with "ulimit -d", but I discovered that the limit has no effect due to a glibc behavior. I reported this as a bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=569714 I am convinced that this is an infelicitous behavior that deserves at least a WONTFIX, but the assignee seems equally convinced that it is NOTABUG, and I do not understand the terse justification given. I don't want to go on reopen warring forever. Could I please have an outside opinion? -- Matt

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Installing F12 on Mactel
by Leon Stringer 12 Apr '10

12 Apr '10

Hi, I've tried to install F12 on my Core 2 Duo iMac. The installation seemed to go okay but there's no sign of Fedora when I boot. I hold down the <Option> key and just get the MacOS partition. Is there a trick to this? Thanks in advance, Leon...

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Is KDE dead ? Was Re: Stable Release Updates
by Genes MailLists 06 Apr '10

06 Apr '10

I'm curious how many current KDE users we have - what percent of our install base? And what percent of the desktop install base ? Since the 3.5 -> 4.0 KDE pushathon, everyone I know who was a KDE user (myself included, and Linus too!) switched to gnome and none has yet gone back. At least a part of the fuss about updates seems to be driven by KDE wanting to be faster paced than the rest - I'm curious what percent of our install base this actually represents today? For me there were only 2 things disruptive I presently recall - the last was F11 kmail no longer working after recent update - and the devastatingly bad 3.5 -> 4.0 premature release. I actually like the current general pace - its stable but we get decent flow (tho it has slowed somewhat over the 12-18 months or so it seems) of upstream updates/bug fixes and largely when appropriate larger version bumps. Tho things like firefox lag too much imho - but I no longer care as I now use chrome which is way way better. Sure there are little hiccups here and there but overall things are non-disruptive and decently up to date - and that is the right balance. Congrats fedora management, redhat and contributors - and thank you.

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