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NetworkManager-wait-online is still utterly, and completely, broken
by Sam Varshavchik 04 Jan '18

04 Jan '18

Just had another boot that utterly failed because services that were supposed to start only after the network interfaces came up, didn't. They started too soon. Privoxy's logfile has the smoking gun: 2017-12-16 09:42:39.875 7f4acdaa6740 Fatal error: can't bind to 192.168.0.1:8000: Cannot assign requested address This is despite that NetworkManager-wait-online was enabled and active. This is what everyone kept telling me was the only thing that needed to be done. Well, it was enabled: [root@shorty system]# systemctl status NetworkManager-wait-online ● NetworkManager-wait-online.service - Network Manager Wait Online Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/NetworkManager-wait- online.service; e Active: active (exited) since Sat 2017-12-16 09:42:39 EST; 12min ago Docs: man:nm-online(1) Process: 977 ExecStart=/usr/bin/nm-online -s -q --timeout=30 (code=exited, sta Main PID: 977 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Tasks: 0 (limit: 4915) CGroup: /system.slice/NetworkManager-wait-online.service Dec 16 09:42:32 shorty.email-scan.com systemd[1]: Starting Network Manager Wait Dec 16 09:42:39 shorty.email-scan.com systemd[1]: Started Network Manager Wait O It came up at 09:42:39. And, at 09:42:39 privoxy also came up. And privoxy still blew chunks because the primary network interface wasn't up yet. Why is it so friggin difficult to get something this simple, this basic concept of starting things only after the network interfaces are up, working correctly, and reliably? Oh yeah, I know. systemd.

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Not just rpcbind, but man db update as well
by Tom Horsley 02 Jan '18

02 Jan '18

OK, I just updated my system and got the same ridiculous delays I saw someone else complain about recently. Not once, but twice. First when it installed the new rpcbind, then second when it ran the rpcbind scriptlet. Worse than that, when I rebooted to make sure everything was loaded from scratch and up to date, the reboot hung for about 3 minutes saying a start job was running for man-db-cache-update (or something like that). What kind of moronic decision is it to postpone a reboot while updating the man db? If there is anything less critical I have a hard time thinking what it is. For gosh sakes, keep a flag somewhere that says if the man db is up to date and update it on a timer when the system is back up again if required.

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fc36 immediate kernel panic on reboot to 4.14.4-200
by John Pilkington 02 Jan '18

02 Jan '18

software-updates just upgraded 82 packages. On reboot, immediate kernel panic. 4.13.16-202 is running ok. yumex-dnf shows two instances of the new kernel packages ?? nvidia 387.22

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micro dropout's playing video's / card games or just scrolling in an terminal.
by sixpack13 01 Jan '18

01 Jan '18

Hallo is it just me ? in an terminal running "man man" constantly scrolling the pages up or down: it scrolls some line/a page (~2 seconds), stops, scrolls some lines, stops ... Also if I play video's or card games I notice micro dropout's. Video plays 2 seconds fluidly, then pauses/stucks for a ~1/4 second, plays 2 seconds fluidly, pauses/stucks for a ~1/4 second, and so on. it seems like a video-buffer isn't constantly filled to play videos smooth. I exclude hardware error cause: - the box is just an half year old and I tested a card game under windows 7 without dropouts. - I tested with another monitor. I tested an elder kernel ~4.13.x without an solution. I tested under wayland and Xorg-Gnome. F27 is up date. Any hints to debug/troubleshoot this ? Or is it just me ?

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choices for reliable, secure browser for fedora 27 and beyond?
by Robert P. J. Day 01 Jan '18

01 Jan '18

currently running fedora 27 on my asus laptop, and i've previously whined about how cripplingly slow the firefox browser is, to the point where i had to kill it and restart it several times a day (memory leak?). more recently, it simply locks up my entire system, typically within only minutes of my starting it, to the point where i've bailed on it and switched to chrome. at this point, since i'm not wedded to any particular browser, i'm open to suggestions for a simple, fast, reliable and secure browser for fedora. of course there is always opera (which i haven't used in quite some time so i have no idea how well that fits the bill). and if i choose to stick with chrome, i just ran across what looks like a hardened version of it, iridium: https://iridiumbrowser.de/downloads/fedora i'm sure there are other possibilities, so i'm open to suggestions. i really wish i knew why firefox was treating me so badly, but i've given up trying to figure it out and just want to move on. rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ========================================================================

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random rebooting F26
by Howard Howell 31 Dec '17

31 Dec '17

Hi, guys, I am experiencing random logouts on my system. No apparent links to any one program or sequence of events. In fact the last time it happened there were no windows open yet. I went up for the Activities button and next thing I saw was the login window. Memory: 15.6GiB Processor: AMD FX-8300 eight-core processor x 8 OS type: 64 bit Graphics: AMD Oland GNOME: Version 3.24.2 Disk: 976GB Has anyone else experienced this? Also my system is experiencing some choppiness when running 0AD. Regards, HLH

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nfs - increasing dir size...
by bruce 31 Dec '17

31 Dec '17

Hi. I'm running centos7 (and might switch to fed to test) and testing nfs. The test nfs server has a 30G SSD with a dirve "/foo" as the test nfs drive. I'm testing all of this on Digital Ocean which uses SSD. The test nfs server has the exportfs set up for this. The test client has this set in the /etc/fstab as well. My issue now is how do I extend the "size/space" of the test nfsDir "/foo" DigitalOcean provides "block storage" which apparently implements volumes that can be attached, but iI'm not quite seeing how to use the block storage to extend the "/foo" dir on the test NFS server. I could just do a "resize" of the test NFS server but that would get more cpu/ram and I only need additional dirve... Hopefully someone has skills with digital ocean! If this is too far beyond the list let me know! Thoughts/pointers are helpful. thanks guys.. I'm running

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iPad Photos -
by Bob Goodwin 31 Dec '17

31 Dec '17

What fedora 27 application do I need to extract photos from an iPad? I had a program that worked with to download photos from an iPhone but forgot the name. Any help appreciated, Bob -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 FEDORA-27/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3

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rpcbind update excessive delay
by Sam Varshavchik 30 Dec '17

30 Dec '17

Applying the most recent batch of updates took excessively long on every system I updated. On the last one, I apparently isolated it to "systemctl restart rpcbind.socket" stalling. This gets invoked by the rpcbind package's scripts: root 9094 9068 0 10:14 tty2 00:00:00 /bin/systemctl restart rpcbind.socket root 9103 9017 0 10:14 pts/0 00:00:00 ps -fwu root [root@thinkpad system]# date Sat Dec 30 10:15:02 EST 2017 At that point, it's been sitting, doing nothing, for about a minute. Eventually whatever choked it finally unchoked, and the update continued. Checking the status of this job: ● rpcbind.socket - RPCbind Server Activation Socket Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/rpcbind.socket; enabled; vendor prese Active: active (running) since Sat 2017-12-30 10:17:21 EST; 39s ago So, it finally got started @10:17. So, it took around three minutes for systemd to figure out how to close and reopen a couple of lousy sockets. That's all, apparently, what it had to do here. Amazing.

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Re: mp4??
by Porfirio Andrés Páiz Carrasco 29 Dec '17

29 Dec '17

On Dec 27, 2017 2:52 PM, "Beartooth" <Beartooth(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > My apologies if this is a Very Dumb Question: what are people > viewing mp4 files with? I've tried a bunch of stuff, and searched "Fedora > mp4" online, but it seems nothing I have installed will do it. > Enable RPMFusion repos, install `mpv`.

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