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stop service
by Patrick Dupre 04 Nov '20

04 Nov '20

Hello, I have dwservice running, ps root 34852 0.0 0.0 217124 3336 ? S Oct29 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/local/dwagent/native/dwagsvc run How can I stop/restart it? Thanks. =========================================================================== Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdupre(a)gmx.com Laboratoire interdisciplinaire Carnot de Bourgogne 9 Avenue Alain Savary, BP 47870, 21078 DIJON Cedex FRANCE Tel: +33 (0)380395988 ===========================================================================

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f33 reboot didn't?
by Tom Horsley 03 Nov '20

03 Nov '20

I just ran my normal reboot script which just kills off some things systemd has problems killing sometimes then does a reboot. Instead of rebooting, it acted like a logout. I logged back in again, and uptime said 3 days. I rebooted again, and it really did reboot the 2nd time. What the heck happened the first time? Any clues?

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Fedora 33 question
by David 03 Nov '20

03 Nov '20

My install of Fedora 33 was done using a nightly version on October 9, that was built back in July ( according to $ rpm -qi basesystem ) Do I need to do anything to it to clean it up ? I did a "dnf clean all," and I already forgot if it deleted anything. Second question, I just did an update, and got the new kernel. So am I fully in Fedora 33 stable now ? [david@localhost ~]$ sudo dnf repolist repo id repo name fedora Fedora 33 - x86_64 fedora-cisco-openh264 Fedora 33 openh264 (From Cisco) - x86_64 fedora-modular Fedora Modular 33 - x86_64 updates Fedora 33 - x86_64 - Updates updates-modular Fedora Modular 33 - x86_64 - Updates Am I still a Fedora novice ? If this were the B.S.A., I would be a "Tenderfoot." Right ? David Locklear

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systemd-resolved and NM-managed dnsmasq both running
by Ian Pilcher 03 Nov '20

03 Nov '20

I've been using NetworkManager's dnsmasq plugin (dns=dnsmasq) on my laptop for years. After upgrading to Fedora 33, I see that systemd-resolved is running (as expected), but the NetworkManager- spawned dnsmasq instance is also running. Is dnsmasq providing any benefit in this case? My understanding from the earlier systemd-resolved threads is that it is supposed to handle the "split DNS" scenario that led me to use dnsmasq in the first place. -- ======================================================================== In Soviet Russia, Google searches you! ========================================================================

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Fedora-33 Instal method -
by Bob Goodwin 03 Nov '20

03 Nov '20

Is there any way to install Fedora 33 without using the install GUI? This morning, out of desperation, I tried the Network Installer for Fedora Server but it is just another .iso that uses the same GUI as the others I have used that I am no longer able to deal with. I was hoping it would be a command line operation which I can still deal with. In order to use the GUI I need some one to do it for me while I tell them how to respond to the menu items, difficult since it is something I do infrequently although I can usually muddle through, it is inconvenient at best. I have not been able to get past the language selection screen, the first one, in the network fedora server GUI, w/ould like to know if it offers the/ LVM or the "standard partitions?" I want the "standard partitions" not the LVM. So my question boils down to is the installer GUI the only way to install Fedora 33? Bob -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA FEDORA-32/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3

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How do I fix my messed up F31 boot partition setup ?
by linux guy 03 Nov '20

03 Nov '20

I can't remember exactly what I did, but I think I copied an F31 install onto an existing F31 install on a hard drive that had Windows 10 on it. I did this in early 2020. Didn't keep notes. :( Now I have a hard drive that will boot Windows 10 fine, via the Windows 10 Boot Manager. When I go into the BIOS manager, it shows 2 boot options: Windows 10 via the Windows 10 Boot Manager and the hard drive device itself. If I choose Windows 10, Win 10 boots fine. :( If I choose the hard drive device itself, the BIOS says to insert a valid boot device. When I look at the hard drive with GParted, I see this: Samsung SSD 850 EVO mSATA 500 GB with: /dev/sdb1 ntfs Recovery (Windows) /dev/sdb2 fat32 EFI System Partition Has a boot flag /dev/sdb3 unknown type Microsoft Reserved Partition /dev/sdb4 ntfs Basic data partition /dev/sdb5 ext4 <--- this is the boot partition, has the boot stuff on it. Has a boot flag. /dev/sdb6 lvm2 pv fedora A fedora "device" which has 3 partitions: /dev/fedora/home ext4 the home directory /dev/fedora/root ext4 /dev/fedora/swap linuxswap I used a live USB version to facilitate the copy. I suspect that the live boot got installed (thus the FAT32 partition) instead of the real boot partition, which is /dev/sda5 right now. How do I fix this ? Thanks

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FYI: f33 crypto change ramifications
by Tom Horsley 03 Nov '20

03 Nov '20

I don't recall seeing this mentioned here, and since I just spent all morning discovering it, I thought I'd let people know. The default crypto policy changed once again in fedora 33, which I didn't notice till I started trying to use rsync to update my web pages on hostgator (which, by default, uses rsa keys). Kept asking for my password even though I had the keys loaded into the agent. Very mysterious till I finally started poking around on the internet and found this: https://dev.to/bowmanjd/upgrade-ssh-client-keys-and-remote-servers-after-fe… Adding a line to in ~/.ssh/config worked: Host tomhorsley.com Port 2222 PubkeyAcceptedKeyTypes +ssh-rsa Maybe I'll try to discover if hostgator accepts more modern keys and add them (later).

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F32->F33: Upgrade or reinstall?
by Patrick O'Callaghan 03 Nov '20

03 Nov '20

I'd normally upgrade, but my /dev/sda uses LVM to handle root, /home etc. and from what I read this cannot be converted directly to BTRFS, which I'm interested in using. What would be the best way to approach this?: 1) Do a system upgrade and then convert to BTRFS by backing everything up and restoring it (I'd need guidance on how to do this). 2) Do a complete system install and then restore from backups. I'm guessing that (2) is the simplest answer, but I'd appreciate any comments, especially from people who have actually done either of these. poc

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Re: Deprecating SCP
by Jakub Jelen 03 Nov '20

03 Nov '20

On 11/2/20 4:36 PM, Kamil Dudka wrote: > On Monday, November 2, 2020 3:44:39 PM CET Jakub Jelen wrote: >> Hi Fedora users! >> >> Over the last years, there were several issues in the SCP protocol, >> which lead us into discussions if we can get rid of it in upstream [1]. >> Most of the voices there said that they use SCP mostly for simple ad-hoc >> copy and because sftp utility does not provide simple interface to copy >> one or couple of files back and forth and because of people are just >> used to write scp rather than sftp. >> >> Some months ago, I wrote a patch [2] for scp to use SFTP internally >> (with possibility to change it back using -M scp) and ran it through >> some successful testing. The general feedback from upstream was also >> quite positive so I would like to hear also opinions from our users. >> >> It still has some limitations (missing -3 support, it will not work if >> the server does not run sftp subsystem, ...), but it should be good >> enough for most common use cases. >> >> Today, I set up a copr repository with the current openssh from Fedora + >> the patch [2] for anyone to test and provide feedback, either here on >> the mailing list, or in the github PR according to ones preferences. >> >> I am looking for any kind of feedback from the idea through the >> usability, implementation. Is this something you would like to see in >> Fedora soon? Do you have something against this? Is your use case missing? >> >> [1] >> https://lists.mindrot.org/pipermail/openssh-unix-dev/2020-June/038594.html >> [2] https://github.com/openssh/openssh-portable/pull/194/ >> [3] https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/jjelen/openssh-sftp/ > > How is the "compatibility scpd to support old clients" going to differ > from the current implementation? I can think of a solution that in the end, there will be just the server parts of the current scp and the client code branches will be gone or support sftp only. But this can change as we are not there yet. > libcurl implements its own SCP client over libssh. Will this implementation > continue to work after OpenSSH gets updated on servers? With the above update, everything will work as before -- it affects only the client scp binary. > Applications often allow users to pass arbitrary URLs to libcurl. So one can, > for example, use scp:// URLs to specify a kickstart for Anaconda. The fact > that scp utility will be reimplemented over SFTP does not help much in this > case. Each build of libcurl that supports scp:// supports sftp:// as well. > But libcurl will not transmit scp:// requests over sftp:// in case SCP is not > supported by the remote server any more. As Simo wrote, I think it is something that will have to happen sooner or later inside of libcurl or libssh or in users configurations. But again, the above change should not have any effect on this. Regards, -- Jakub Jelen Senior Software Engineer Crypto Team, Security Engineering Red Hat, Inc.

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BTFS - Raid1 for System Disk
by Jorge Fábregas 03 Nov '20

03 Nov '20

Hi everyone, I'm experimenting with Fedora 33 & BTRFS on VM for a setup I'd like to do in my desktop in the near future. I'd like to have my system drive with BTRFS on a RAID1 profile. I was experminenting with a simple / (root filesystem) subvolume but it appears GRUB2 can't work properly with it. I get the famous: "Sparse file is not allowed" during boot (and no way to access GRUB2 menu). It boots fine but I can't longer edit the GRUB2 menu during boot. Fine, I read somewhere that /boot wasn't allowed with BTRFS in Fedora? ok, I then tried to create a separate ext4 /boot partition (using Anaconda) but it created a mess (partition-wise) so I'm going to install it again with just one disk as /dev/vda1 for /boot and vda2 for BTRFS , then afterwards I'll copy partition tables to /dev/vdb, rsync /boot and balance to RAID1. I'd like my desktop to have a RAID1 setup for my main drive and be able to remove either disk and boot seamlessly. Is this possible with BTFS & GRUB2 these days? I tried to followed link [1] but it doesn't work with Fedora33. Does anyone know of any online guide to accomplish this with F33? Also , is it really necessary to have a separate /boot partition? Aren't there any workarounds? I'd like to keep stuff simple and have only BTRFS / & /home subvolumes. Thanks! -- Jorge

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