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off-topic - Ryzen cpu purchasing question
by David 09 Jul '20

09 Jul '20

I have all the basic components ready for a new pc build except for the CPU. I can get by easily with a Ryzen 3, but that processor would not be much better than my old Intel. But it would allow me to finish my build faster, and be up and running with Fedora on my new NVMe M.2 drive. Where I live, ordering online at Walmart is about $ 10 cheaper than other services. I will be using this computer for basic household task while at the same time reporting my experiences with Fedora and likely just the Rawhide isos. I hope to install several Rawhide isos on my new NVMe in the coming months, and probably other distros too. I have no reason to hurry with this build other than being anxious to report how it works with various Linux distros and especially Fedora. I assume it would be silly to waste money on a $ 300 cpu. Right ? But if I can restrain myself, and take a deep breath, then I should be able to place an order the new Ryzen 5 3600XT in about a month. Those are currently $ 250 plus tax U.S.A. dollars. I can not really justify doing that today. Today, I could order the Ryzen 3 for $ 75, and start my build next week. Does anybody really care how the Ryzen 3 now performs in 2020 on Fedora ( on a desktop pc ) ?? I imagine that would now only be relevant on a laptop. David Locklear

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crond
by Patrick Dupre 09 Jul '20

09 Jul '20

Running systemctl status crond I get crond.service - Command Scheduler Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/crond.service; enabled; vendor pre> Active: active (running) since Wed 2020-07-08 20:44:30 CEST; 1h 42min ago Main PID: 1415 (crond) Tasks: 1 (limit: 9349) Memory: 3.6M CPU: 342ms CGroup: /system.slice/crond.service └─1415 /usr/sbin/crond -n Jul 08 20:44:31 Teucidide crond[1415]: (CRON) INFO (running with inotify suppor> Jul 08 21:01:01 Teucidide CROND[4007]: (root) CMD (run-parts /etc/cron.hourly) Jul 08 21:01:01 Teucidide anacron[4016]: Anacron started on 2020-07-08 Jul 08 21:01:01 Teucidide anacron[4016]: Will run job `cron.daily' in 28 min. Jul 08 21:01:01 Teucidide anacron[4016]: Jobs will be executed sequentially Jul 08 21:01:01 Teucidide run-parts[4018]: (/etc/cron.hourly) finished 0anacron Jul 08 21:29:01 Teucidide anacron[4016]: Job `cron.daily' started Jul 08 21:29:01 Teucidide anacron[4016]: Job `cron.daily' terminated Jul 08 21:29:01 Teucidide anacron[4016]: Normal exit (1 job run) Jul 08 22:01:01 Teucidide CROND[8390]: (root) CMD (run-parts /etc/cron.hourly) Why cron.weekly does not show up? Thanks =========================================================================== Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdupre(a)gmx.com Laboratoire interdisciplinaire Carnot de Bourgogne 9 Avenue Alain Savary, BP 47870, 21078 DIJON Cedex FRANCE Tel: +33 (0)380395988 ===========================================================================

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Migrqate from Legacy to EUFI?
by toddandmargo 09 Jul '20

09 Jul '20

Hi All, I need to migrate a Fedora server from a mechanical hard drive running legacy boot to an NVMe drive that requires EUFI to boot. Am I stuck reinstalling everything? Many thanks, -T

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newbie question about version numbers of Linux software
by David 08 Jul '20

08 Jul '20

According to some programs in Gnome, the version number is "bumped up," even though there were no changes. This ideology seems odd to me. Example the Gnome game, "Hitori." And while I have your attention, I still have not figured out the game-launcher "Athenaeum." I can't get any of the games installed with that to update. Is there a separate updater inside the game-launcher ? Maybe they are up to date, but Gnome Software does not think so. Try Hitori for example, since it is so tiny, and you might be able to verify my issue. I have not yet check in terminal to see if the version number matches what Gnome Software is claiming. David Locklear

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f32 libinput :: stop it from disabling the keyboard
by Adrian Sevcenco 08 Jul '20

08 Jul '20

Hi! Does anyone have an idea how can i stop that libinput crap forcing my latop in tablet mode and by this disabling the keyboard and touchpad? This effectively bricked my latop! is not longer usable! This happened just just after an update, but because there were many packages i cannot narrow it down. I already tried to downgrade libinput, the keyboard is still disabled This in an HP Pavilion 11 x360 convertible. Thank you!! Adrian

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Bootable USB and a Windows ISO-file
by Robin Lee 08 Jul '20

08 Jul '20

I'm trying to do a very simple task on my Fedora 32 desktop but somehow I can't make it happen. I've downloaded a Windows installer ISO-file from microsoft.com that I put on a USB-stick and tried to install Windows on physical machine, but it won't boot from the USB. It shows up in the BIOS boot menu, but it won't boot. I've tried to install the same ISO-file in Boxes and that went fine. I've tried both Brasero and Disk Image Writer, I've tried two different USB-sticks and two different physical target machines. What am I doing wrong? Or is this nefarious scheming by Linux to stop people from experimenting with alternative operating systems?

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I need current network interface documentation
by ToddAndMargo 08 Jul '20

08 Jul '20

Hi All, Anyone have a link to this https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora_Draft_Documentation/0.1/html/Sy… only the current version, not a draft? Many thanks, -T

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pulseaudio over network
by Richard Shaw 08 Jul '20

08 Jul '20

I plan on doing a demonstration for an Emergency Management meeting and I need to have two computers cross connected via audio. Ideally this would be between two sound cards but laptops with a single 3.5mm audio jack seem to be problematic. I've ordered another USB->Audio adapter but it won't get here in time. I basically want to pipe the audio Comp1-out -> Comp2-in, and Comp2-out -> Comp1-in. I can find an Arch wiki on how to set this up (kinda) but wasn't sure it 100% translated to Fedora. Anybody have any suggestions or links on how to accomplish this? Thanks, Richard

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Start CUPS -
by Bob Goodwin 07 Jul '20

07 Jul '20

What is the command to start the cups printer administration display in Fedora 32? It always was available when I entered "631" in the Firefox address window. I guess I need the exact command but cant find it. systemctl status says it loaded and active but it is hiding from me if it is? Bob -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD FEDORA-32/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3

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STOP mailing list
by dcooke＠efn.org 07 Jul '20

07 Jul '20

> Send users mailing list submissions to > users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via email, send a message with subject or > body 'help' to > users-request(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > users-owner(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of users digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Output text color (was dnf list color bad) (Samuel Sieb) > 2. Bootable USB and a Windows ISO-file (Robin Lee) > 3. Re: Bootable USB and a Windows ISO-file (Samuel Sieb) > 4. Re: Bootable USB and a Windows ISO-file (Robin Lee) > 5. Re: Bootable USB and a Windows ISO-file (Samuel Sieb) > 6. Re: Output text color (was dnf list color bad) (Beartooth) > 7. Re: Output text color (was dnf list color bad) (Samuel Sieb) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2020 11:43:01 -0700 > From: Samuel Sieb <samuel(a)sieb.net> > Subject: Re: Output text color (was dnf list color bad) > To: users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Message-ID: <d4be6549-3280-da0d-903f-bff1585845d8(a)sieb.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On 7/5/20 10:52 AM, Beartooth wrote: >> On Sun, 05 Jul 2020 12:59:10 -0400, Todd Zullinger wrote: >> [....] >>> I'm pretty sure those are in /etc, not /etc/dnf. If they're in the >>> latter, can you confirm that and check what package provides them (rpm >>> -qf /etc/dnf/DIR_COLORS*)? I don't see anything providing them. >> >> You're right. My bad. They're in /etc. And I get # rpm -qf /etc/ >> dnf/DIR_COLORS* >> error: file /etc/dnf/DIR_COLORS*: No such file or directory > > But this is the wrong file anyway. The configuration for dnf colors is > in /etc/dnf/dnf.conf. See "man dnf.conf" for details, see the section > under "[MAIN] OPTIONS - COLORS". > >> Am I remembering wrong? Istr that I could tell a given machine >> *once* that I want to see dot files, and it would *always* display them. > > I don't know how you would do that. Maybe there's a config for ls or > you can add "-a" to the ls alias. > >>> After you edit it, you must source /etc/profile.d/colorls.sh to pick up >>> the changes. >> >> "source" is a verb?? Sorry -- you lost me. What does it mean? > > There's a bash command called "source" that executes the script file in > the current context. That means that any environment variables that are > set will stay in effect. > >>> You can also copy the proper DIR_COLORS* file to your home dir to avoid >>> having a clean install overwrite your changes in /etc. The paths which >>> the colorls.sh script uses are: >>> >>> $HOME/.dir_colors.$TERM $HOME/.dircolors.$TERM $HOME/.dir_colors >>> $HOME/.dircolors >>> >>> The first one found is used. >> >> Sigh. The curse of the autodidact strikes again. I know that >> "HOME" in all upper case has a standard meaning, and I suppose "TERM" >> must, too. But I can never remember what it is, nor where to look it up. > > Those are environment variables. "HOME" contains the current home > directory and "TERM" contains the name of the current terminal emulation. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2020 21:01:11 +0200 > From: Robin Lee <robinlee(a)mailbox.org> > Subject: Bootable USB and a Windows ISO-file > To: users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Message-ID: > <06f83eb8b1df03e25b0dbd10876b74fb40ddb015.camel(a)mailbox.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > I'm trying to do a very simple task on my Fedora 32 desktop but somehow > I can't make it happen. > > I've downloaded a Windows installer ISO-file from microsoft.com that I > put on a USB-stick and tried to install Windows on physical machine, > but it won't boot from the USB. It shows up in the BIOS boot menu, but > it won't boot. > > I've tried to install the same ISO-file in Boxes and that went fine. > I've tried both Brasero and Disk Image Writer, I've tried two different > USB-sticks and two different physical target machines. > > What am I doing wrong? Or is this nefarious scheming by Linux to stop > people from experimenting with alternative operating systems? > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2020 12:21:07 -0700 > From: Samuel Sieb <samuel(a)sieb.net> > Subject: Re: Bootable USB and a Windows ISO-file > To: users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Message-ID: <fdbec98f-6201-af8c-2350-eef4d576e163(a)sieb.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On 7/5/20 12:01 PM, Robin Lee wrote: >> I've downloaded a Windows installer ISO-file from microsoft.com that I >> put on a USB-stick and tried to install Windows on physical machine, >> but it won't boot from the USB. It shows up in the BIOS boot menu, but >> it won't boot. >> >> I've tried to install the same ISO-file in Boxes and that went fine. >> I've tried both Brasero and Disk Image Writer, I've tried two different >> USB-sticks and two different physical target machines. > > Boxes will make it a DVD drive, not USB. > > Isn't Brasero only for writing to optical media? Anyway, I would just > use dd to write it to the flash drive. > > In a terminal (change sdc to whatever your flash drive is): > sudo dd if=windows.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=1M status=progress > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2020 21:48:03 +0200 > From: Robin Lee <robinlee(a)mailbox.org> > Subject: Re: Bootable USB and a Windows ISO-file > To: Community support for Fedora users <users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org> > Message-ID: > <27bead4367d17c11fa3805c3255d0bdff2570f07.camel(a)mailbox.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > On Sun, 2020-07-05 at 12:21 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: >> On 7/5/20 12:01 PM, Robin Lee wrote: >> > I've downloaded a Windows installer ISO-file from microsoft.com >> > that I >> > put on a USB-stick and tried to install Windows on physical >> > machine, >> > but it won't boot from the USB. It shows up in the BIOS boot menu, >> > but >> > it won't boot. >> > >> > I've tried to install the same ISO-file in Boxes and that went >> > fine. >> > I've tried both Brasero and Disk Image Writer, I've tried two >> > different >> > USB-sticks and two different physical target machines. >> >> Boxes will make it a DVD drive, not USB. >> >> Isn't Brasero only for writing to optical media? Anyway, I would >> just >> use dd to write it to the flash drive. >> >> In a terminal (change sdc to whatever your flash drive is): >> sudo dd if=windows.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=1M status=progress > > Same result. > > Also tested creating a bootable USB-stick with a Centos ISO-file. No > problem. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2020 12:51:18 -0700 > From: Samuel Sieb <samuel(a)sieb.net> > Subject: Re: Bootable USB and a Windows ISO-file > To: users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Message-ID: <aa25c71f-54b1-bfd8-988b-6f66ef9747fc(a)sieb.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On 7/5/20 12:48 PM, Robin Lee wrote: >> On Sun, 2020-07-05 at 12:21 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: >>> On 7/5/20 12:01 PM, Robin Lee wrote: >>>> I've downloaded a Windows installer ISO-file from microsoft.com >>>> that I >>>> put on a USB-stick and tried to install Windows on physical >>>> machine, >>>> but it won't boot from the USB. It shows up in the BIOS boot menu, >>>> but >>>> it won't boot. >>>> >>>> I've tried to install the same ISO-file in Boxes and that went >>>> fine. >>>> I've tried both Brasero and Disk Image Writer, I've tried two >>>> different >>>> USB-sticks and two different physical target machines. >>> >>> Boxes will make it a DVD drive, not USB. >>> >>> Isn't Brasero only for writing to optical media? Anyway, I would >>> just >>> use dd to write it to the flash drive. >>> >>> In a terminal (change sdc to whatever your flash drive is): >>> sudo dd if=windows.iso of=/dev/sdc bs=1M status=progress >> >> Same result. >> >> Also tested creating a bootable USB-stick with a Centos ISO-file. No >> problem. > > Maybe that file can't be booted from usb. Are there any instructions > from Microsoft about how to do it? I know I have done it a couple of > times in the past. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2020 19:58:09 -0000 (UTC) > From: Beartooth <Beartooth(a)comcast.net> > Subject: Re: Output text color (was dnf list color bad) > To: users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Message-ID: <rdtbch$2i6$3(a)ciao.gmane.io> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Sun, 05 Jul 2020 11:43:01 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > [....] >> But this is the wrong file anyway. The configuration for dnf colors is >> in /etc/dnf/dnf.conf. See "man dnf.conf" for details, see the section >> under "[MAIN] OPTIONS - COLORS". > > Well, as /etc/dnf/dnf.conf I see only this: > > [main] > gpgcheck=1 > installonly_limit=3 > clean_requirements_on_remove=True > best=False > skip_if_unavailable=True > > I'll make a separate post for the rest, with effusive thanks for > the clarifications. > -- > Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User > Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is. > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2020 13:01:44 -0700 > From: Samuel Sieb <samuel(a)sieb.net> > Subject: Re: Output text color (was dnf list color bad) > To: users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Message-ID: <d3739daf-bf3f-42cb-845f-caf6aa64bdfe(a)sieb.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On 7/5/20 12:58 PM, Beartooth wrote: >> On Sun, 05 Jul 2020 11:43:01 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: >> [....] >>> But this is the wrong file anyway. The configuration for dnf colors is >>> in /etc/dnf/dnf.conf. See "man dnf.conf" for details, see the section >>> under "[MAIN] OPTIONS - COLORS". >> >> Well, as /etc/dnf/dnf.conf I see only this: > > If you want to override the default values, you need to add them there > as described in the man page. > >> I'll make a separate post for the rest, with effusive thanks for >> the clarifications. > > Ok, if you can't figure it out, then I'll reply there. > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > users mailing list -- users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of users Digest, Vol 197, Issue 34 > ************************************** >

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