No one responded to my question of the absence of dictionaries for aspell and ispell so I looked further.
The aspell rpm at least through f9 put the dictionaries in /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/ They are not there or anywhere I can find in F11. Could someone confirm this so I can do a Bugzilla on aspell? Or maybe no one else cares.
What is used in its place. Maybe huspell. -- ======================================================================= Boob's Law: You always find something in the last place you look. ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@sbcglobal.net
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:18:15 -0500 Aaron Konstam wrote:
No one responded to my question of the absence of dictionaries for aspell and ispell so I looked further.
The aspell rpm at least through f9 put the dictionaries in /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/ They are not there or anywhere I can find in F11. Could someone confirm this so I can do a Bugzilla on aspell? Or maybe no one else cares.
What is used in its place. Maybe huspell.
Something sure seems busted. I've always been able to do ESC-$ to check the spelling of a word in emacs and it has worked through all the evolutions from ispell to aspell and wot-not, but I just tried it on my fully updated fedora 11 emacs and got this:
Loading ispell...done Starting new Ispell process [default] ... ispell-init-process: Can't open affix or dictionary files for dictionary named "POSIX". @(#) International Ispell Version 3.2.06 (but really Hunspell 1.2.8)
So I guess it is using hunspell, but it can't find a dictionary either.
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:18:15 -0500 Aaron Konstam akonstam@sbcglobal.net wrote:
No one responded to my question of the absence of dictionaries for aspell and ispell so I looked further.
The aspell rpm at least through f9 put the dictionaries in /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/ They are not there or anywhere I can find in F11. Could someone confirm this so I can do a Bugzilla on aspell? Or maybe no one else cares.
What is used in its place. Maybe huspell.
======================================================================= Boob's Law: You always find something in the last place you look. ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@sbcglobal.net
On my system there are lots of aspell items, but the one I think corresponds to the above is:
/usr/share/doc/aspell-0.60.6 /usr/share/doc/aspell-en-6.0
Perhaps they changed the location without letting anyone know. :-)
On Tuesday 21 Jul 2009 16:18:15 Aaron Konstam wrote:
No one responded to my question of the absence of dictionaries for aspell and ispell so I looked further.
The aspell rpm at least through f9 put the dictionaries in /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/ They are not there or anywhere I can find in F11. Could someone confirm this so I can do a Bugzilla on aspell? Or maybe no one else cares.
What is used in its place. Maybe huspell.
My F11 netbook uses kde-fedora repos, so may be more up to date than straight F11. However, /usr/lib/aspell does have the dictionaries here. My aspell is 0.60
Anne
On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 10:18 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
No one responded to my question of the absence of dictionaries for aspell and ispell so I looked further.
The aspell rpm at least through f9 put the dictionaries in /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/ They are not there or anywhere I can find in F11. Could someone confirm this so I can do a Bugzilla on aspell? Or maybe no one else cares.
What is used in its place. Maybe huspell.
Well, sorry but it works for me.
F11 + gnome but I'm also using GNU Emacs 23.1.50.10 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.16.2) from cvs.
[bpm]$ rpm -qa | grep -i aspell aspell-en-6.0-10.fc11.i586 aspell-0.60.6-5.fc11.i586 aspell-devel-0.60.6-5.fc11.i586 aspell-es-0.50-18.fc11.i586
[bpm]$ rpm -ql aspell-en-6.0-10.fc11.i586 /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/american-w_accents.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/american-wo_accents.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/american.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/british-ise-w_accents.alias ... ... ...
Aaron Konstam wrote:
No one responded to my question of the absence of dictionaries for aspell and ispell so I looked further.
Fedora's aspell maintainer, for better or worse, chose to make it not require any functional dictionaries by default.
In short, you have to install at least one dictionary, say, aspell-en for it to function properly.
See also related bugs, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=494084 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=507228
-- Rex
On Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:12:28 -0500 Rex Dieter wrote:
In short, you have to install at least one dictionary, say, aspell-en for it to function properly.
I just checked, and I have aspell-en installed, but ispell-word in emacs (which was hooked up to aspell the last time I noticed it working) doesn't function. I get the error I reported earlier in this thread. I'm pretty sure I use it often enough that I would have noticed before (in fact, I think I did notice before and installed aspell-en as a result :-).
Something new seems to have broken recently. No doubt it now only works with UTF-8 and I've spent a long time utterly squashing UTF-8 in emacs :-).
On 09-07-21 11:18:15, Aaron Konstam wrote:
No one responded to my question of the absence of dictionaries for aspell and ispell so I looked further.
The aspell rpm at least through f9 put the dictionaries in /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/ They are not there or anywhere I can find in F11. Could someone confirm this so I can do a Bugzilla on aspell? Or maybe no one else cares.
In F9, the aspell RPM has no dictionaries, and a separate aspell- <language-code> package must be installed. You could determine this with `rpm -ql aspell` and `yum list aspell*`. Also, the F9 aspell README in /usr/share/doc/aspell-0.60.5/README notes that aspell requires installing a dictionary when built from source.
On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 17:46 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 21 Jul 2009 16:18:15 Aaron Konstam wrote:
No one responded to my question of the absence of dictionaries for aspell and ispell so I looked further.
The aspell rpm at least through f9 put the dictionaries in /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/ They are not there or anywhere I can find in F11. Could someone confirm this so I can do a Bugzilla on aspell? Or maybe no one else cares.
What is used in its place. Maybe huspell.
My F11 netbook uses kde-fedora repos, so may be more up to date than straight F11. However, /usr/lib/aspell does have the dictionaries here. My aspell is 0.60
Anne
Well there is always something to learn. I created a kde.repo. My aspell is also aspell-o-60.6-5.fc11.i586 and the directory under /usr/lib is also aspell-0.60 but no dictionaries within. If the aspell on your system is later yum does not think so on my machine.
I am boggled by the idea that kde has its own separate repository for f11. What would that be. I installed kde through the fedora repos so I would expect all kde updates would come from fedora repos.
Can someone explain all this? Especially since aspell is not a particularly kde product.
Any further testimony on this matter. Is it Bugzilla time or not? -- ======================================================================= These days the necessities of life cost you about three times what they used to, and half the time they aren't even fit to drink. ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@sbcglobal.net
On Tuesday 21 Jul 2009 21:53:12 Aaron Konstam wrote:
On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 17:46 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 21 Jul 2009 16:18:15 Aaron Konstam wrote:
No one responded to my question of the absence of dictionaries for aspell and ispell so I looked further.
The aspell rpm at least through f9 put the dictionaries in /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/ They are not there or anywhere I can find in F11. Could someone confirm this so I can do a Bugzilla on aspell? Or maybe no one else cares.
What is used in its place. Maybe huspell.
My F11 netbook uses kde-fedora repos, so may be more up to date than straight F11. However, /usr/lib/aspell does have the dictionaries here. My aspell is 0.60
Anne
Well there is always something to learn. I created a kde.repo. My aspell is also aspell-o-60.6-5.fc11.i586 and the directory under /usr/lib is also aspell-0.60 but no dictionaries within. If the aspell on your system is later yum does not think so on my machine.
I am boggled by the idea that kde has its own separate repository for f11. What would that be. I installed kde through the fedora repos so I would expect all kde updates would come from fedora repos.
kde-fedora is where packages are built for kde and go through a testing phase. It's a bit like running a stable f11 with a rawhide kde, except that you can choose which level you want to work at. I have one system that has both the unstable and unstable-testing enabled. Packages that behave well and cause ew problems go into the main fedora repo shortly after, so you are not missing anything.
Can someone explain all this? Especially since aspell is not a particularly kde product.
The kde-fedora repo has little to do with your aspell problem. As has been explained, the developer decided against putting a dictionary into the package. Now that may look nonsense to you, but to the rest of the world having an en-US dictionary installed is not helpful. :-)
Any further testimony on this matter. Is it Bugzilla time or not?
If you feel that the developer made a wrong decision, by all means tell him so in bugzilla, but as I said, think about the rest of us. As long as it is documented that you have to install dictionaries, and it is, I personally think that's OK. I don't actually remember doing it, but obviously I must have seen the documentation and done it, since it is working fine.
Anne
On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 12:30 -0500, Brian Millett wrote:
On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 10:18 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote:
No one responded to my question of the absence of dictionaries for aspell and ispell so I looked further.
The aspell rpm at least through f9 put the dictionaries in /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/ They are not there or anywhere I can find in F11. Could someone confirm this so I can do a Bugzilla on aspell? Or maybe no one else cares.
What is used in its place. Maybe huspell.
Well, sorry but it works for me.
F11 + gnome but I'm also using GNU Emacs 23.1.50.10 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.16.2) from cvs.
[bpm]$ rpm -qa | grep -i aspell aspell-en-6.0-10.fc11.i586 aspell-0.60.6-5.fc11.i586 aspell-devel-0.60.6-5.fc11.i586 aspell-es-0.50-18.fc11.i586
[bpm]$ rpm -ql aspell-en-6.0-10.fc11.i586 /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/american-w_accents.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/american-wo_accents.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/american.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/british-ise-w_accents.a
Thhat is interedesting because when I do: rpm -ql aspell-en-6.0-10.fc11.1586 I get: /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/american-w_accents.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/american-wo_accents.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/american.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/british-ise-w_accents.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/british-ise-wo_accents.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/british-ise.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/british-ize-w_accents.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/british-ize-wo_accents.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/british-ize.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/british-w_accents.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/british-wo_accents.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/british.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/canadian-w_accents.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/canadian-wo_accents.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/canadian.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en-common.rws /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en-variant_0.multi /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en-variant_0.rws /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en-variant_1.multi /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en-variant_1.rws /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en-variant_2.multi /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en-variant_2.rws /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en-w_accents.multi /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en-wo_accents.multi /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en.dat /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en.multi /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en_CA-w_accents-only.rws /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en_CA-w_accents.multi /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en_CA-wo_accents-only.rws /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en_CA-wo_accents.multi /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en_CA.multi /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en_GB-ise-w_accents-only.rws /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en_GB-ise-w_accents.multi /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en_GB-ise-wo_accents-only.rws /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en_GB-ise-wo_accents.multi /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en_GB-ise.multi /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en_GB-ize-w_accents-only.rws /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en_GB-ize-w_accents.multi /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en_GB-ize-wo_accents-only.rws /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en_GB-ize-wo_accents.multi /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en_GB-ize.multi /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en_GB-w_accents.multi /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en_GB-wo_accents.multi /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en_GB.multi /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en_US-w_accents-only.rws /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en_US-w_accents.multi /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en_US-wo_accents-only.rws /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en_US-wo_accents.multi /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en_US.multi /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en_affix.dat /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/en_phonet.dat /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/english-variant_0.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/english-variant_1.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/english-variant_2.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/english-w_accents.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/english-wo_accents.alias /usr/lib/aspell-0.60/english.alias /usr/share/doc/aspell-en-6.0 /usr/share/doc/aspell-en-6.0/Copyright
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