Could someone please point me in the right direction? I need to find out how to disable the window redraw feature in RH8.0's Metacity? This feature dramatically reduces performance when used in conjunction with high-res GIS images. Should you have to resize the window while that feature is enabled, it redraws over an over again until it reaches the desired window size. On sawfish, there was a way to disable that from the front end but I can't find where you would do that on Metacity. Can someone please help?
Thanks in advance,
Aaron
Le ven 29/08/2003 à 16:27, Aaron_Morales@eogresources.com a écrit :
Could someone please point me in the right direction? I need to find out how to disable the window redraw feature in RH8.0's Metacity? This feature dramatically reduces performance when used in conjunction with high-res GIS images. Should you have to resize the window while that feature is enabled, it redraws over an over again until it reaches the desired window size. On sawfish, there was a way to disable that from the front end but I can't find where you would do that on Metacity. Can someone please help?
AFAIK it's not possible with metacity.
Thanks in advance,
Sorry.
Aaron
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I think that F~liciano is correct for RH8. I thought I read something in the metacity release notes for severn about wire drawing which is sometimes the codeword for what you are looking for. I can't find a way to turn it on.. I wish it was available myself.. we have to put something else on a couple of people's desktops who have epilepsy.
On 29 Aug 2003, Féliciano Matias wrote:
Le ven 29/08/2003 à 16:27, Aaron_Morales@eogresources.com a écrit :
Could someone please point me in the right direction? I need to find out how to disable the window redraw feature in RH8.0's Metacity? This feature dramatically reduces performance when used in conjunction with high-res GIS
AFAIK it's not possible with metacity.
Thanks in advance,
Sorry.
Le sam 30/08/2003 à 02:38, Stephen Smoogen a écrit :
I think that F~liciano is correct for RH8. I thought I read something in the metacity release notes for severn about wire drawing which is sometimes the codeword for what you are looking for. I can't find a way to turn it on.. I wish it was available myself.. we have to put something else on a couple of people's desktops who have epilepsy.
From metacity README : Q: Why no wireframe move/resize? A: Also in rationales.txt. Because it has low usability, and is a pain to implement, and there's no reason opaque move/resize should be a problem on any setup that can run a modern desktop worth a darn to begin with.
Read +all+ the README before flaming Havoc.
And keep in mind that you can use another WM. I use Icewm :-)
On 29 Aug 2003, Féliciano Matias wrote:
Le ven 29/08/2003 à 16:27, Aaron_Morales@eogresources.com a écrit :
Could someone please point me in the right direction? I need to find out how to disable the window redraw feature in RH8.0's Metacity? This feature dramatically reduces performance when used in conjunction with high-res GIS
AFAIK it's not possible with metacity.
Thanks in advance,
Sorry.
Féliciano Matias wrote:
... From metacity README : Q: Why no wireframe move/resize? A: Also in rationales.txt. Because it has low usability, and is a pain to implement,
<NotAHavocFlame explain="Just a couple of observations">
If it's such a pain to implement, why does nearly every other window manager implement it? (Supporting old hardware is surely the answer that would be given, but that doesn't make it any easier to implement, only more important.)
and there's no reason opaque move/resize should be a problem on any setup that can run a modern desktop worth a darn to begin with.
I think Aaron has just demonstrated that the above statement is not true for all cases: applications which draw vector graphics could have big problems with it. I've even used applications that don't draw vector graphics still perform poorly with resize (on reasonably modern hardware - i use an Athlon 2400+ w/- GeForce MX 440 8x).
</NotAHavocFlame>
... And keep in mind that you can use another WM. I use Icewm :-)
<PackageSupporRant>
Oh, that it were supported in RHL!
I understand Red Hat's policy of only having one default desktop, but why can't they at least provide working packages for the other popular choices?
Is RHLP our chance to get a few more good packages that are used by more experienced users into the distribution? Put me down for a few: icewm, isag (dropped to remove the sysstat dependency upon tcl/tk, as far as i can tell), jikes (no idea why this was dropped - it's such a great *fast* compiler), and shorewall.
Add one more to that list that doesn't fall into the "experienced user" category: webmin. I have a number of devices on my network at work which are web manageable, including Novell NetWare 6 servers, HP JetDirects and ProCurve routers, an EMC CLARiiON disk array, even Canon photocopiers, yet the best web platform of them all (RHL) isn't web manageable. Does this strike anyone else as odd?
I've already had this fight with the RH engineers in bugzilla (http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=89555), but their excuses really aren't that valid, IMO (as i explained in that bug). What think you all?
</PackageSupportRant>
Le sam 30/08/2003 à 14:06, Paul Gear a écrit :
Féliciano Matias wrote:
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... And keep in mind that you can use another WM. I use Icewm :-)
<PackageSupporRant>
Oh, that it were supported in RHL!
I have no problem if icewm is not supported by RHL. If i can install icewm, it's the power of free software. RedHat is not all the free software and never will be.
AFAIK, RedHat don't build a distribution only for me. Can a RedHat employee confirm that point :-)
Féliciano Matias wrote:
... I have no problem if icewm is not supported by RHL. If i can install icewm, it's the power of free software. RedHat is not all the free software and never will be.
It's called simplicity - it's easier to install it from 1 source than 5.
AFAIK, RedHat don't build a distribution only for me. Can a RedHat employee confirm that point :-)
<g> True, but you're pretty special anyway, don't you think? :-)
Le sam 30/08/2003 à 14:40, Paul Gear a écrit :
Féliciano Matias wrote:
... I have no problem if icewm is not supported by RHL. If i can install icewm, it's the power of free software. RedHat is not all the free software and never will be.
It's called simplicity - it's easier to install it from 1 source than 5.
AFAIK, RedHat don't build a distribution only for me. Can a RedHat employee confirm that point :-)
<g> True, but you're pretty special anyway, don't you think? :-)
Sure, i use Icewm :-)
On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 08:37, Féliciano Matias wrote:
AFAIK, RedHat don't build a distribution only for me. Can a RedHat employee confirm that point :-)
You are correct sir! It's not just for you. B^) <-I wear glasses.
Seriously, I believe I was handling your support request on this when you called in about it. At least I remember asking Havoc about it on behalf of a user with GIS mapping applications.
I have been following this thread and I believe "Smooge" said something important earlier which probably should be brought to Havoc's attention:
"... I wish it was available myself.. we have to put something else on a couple of people's desktops who have epilepsy."
In my opinion, that in itself is a good reason to add that particular feature, however it's not my call and I can make no promises on Havoc's or Red Hat's behalf.
It could not hurt to add that information to the bugzilla database at any rate.
Hi,
Current rawhide in fact has wireframe resize (the setting is called reduced_resources, set it to TRUE).
Havoc
Thankyou Havoc.
The issue with moving metacity off of a couple of scientists who have epilepsy should not be said that metacity caused epiliptic events for the scientists.. more that they get very warey of anything that causes a Flick/Flick/Flick on their screens.
On Sat, 30 Aug 2003, Havoc Pennington wrote:
Hi,
Current rawhide in fact has wireframe resize (the setting is called reduced_resources, set it to TRUE).
Havoc
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On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 18:36, Havoc Pennington wrote:
Hi,
Current rawhide in fact has wireframe resize (the setting is called reduced_resources, set it to TRUE).
I have done this (via gconf-editor), but it has no effect (even restarting metacity yielded nothing).
It's metacity-2.5.3-2 BTW.
Any ideas?
Nils
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 09:22:34PM +0200, Nils Philippsen wrote:
On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 18:36, Havoc Pennington wrote:
Hi,
Current rawhide in fact has wireframe resize (the setting is called reduced_resources, set it to TRUE).
I have done this (via gconf-editor), but it has no effect (even restarting metacity yielded nothing).
It's metacity-2.5.3-2 BTW.
Any ideas?
It looks like Alex lost the patch when upgrading from 2.4 to 2.5, he probably assumed that it was already in 2.5 upstream but it isn't.
I'll have to put the patch back.
Havoc
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 22:10, Havoc Pennington wrote:
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 09:22:34PM +0200, Nils Philippsen wrote:
On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 18:36, Havoc Pennington wrote:
Hi,
Current rawhide in fact has wireframe resize (the setting is called reduced_resources, set it to TRUE).
I have done this (via gconf-editor), but it has no effect (even restarting metacity yielded nothing).
It's metacity-2.5.3-2 BTW.
Any ideas?
It looks like Alex lost the patch when upgrading from 2.4 to 2.5, he probably assumed that it was already in 2.5 upstream but it isn't.
I'll have to put the patch back.
"oops"
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On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 10:57, Alexander Larsson wrote:
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 22:10, Havoc Pennington wrote:
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 09:22:34PM +0200, Nils Philippsen wrote:
On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 18:36, Havoc Pennington wrote:
Hi,
Current rawhide in fact has wireframe resize (the setting is called reduced_resources, set it to TRUE).
I have done this (via gconf-editor), but it has no effect (even restarting metacity yielded nothing).
It's metacity-2.5.3-2 BTW.
Any ideas?
It looks like Alex lost the patch when upgrading from 2.4 to 2.5, he probably assumed that it was already in 2.5 upstream but it isn't.
I'll have to put the patch back.
"oops"
WORKSFORME now with metacity-2.5.3-3, kudos guys.
Nils
It works for me too. Thanks.. it will make upgrading from 7.3 feasible now.
On Fri, 2003-09-05 at 09:25, Nils Philippsen wrote:
On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 10:57, Alexander Larsson wrote:
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 22:10, Havoc Pennington wrote:
On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 09:22:34PM +0200, Nils Philippsen wrote:
On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 18:36, Havoc Pennington wrote:
Hi,
Current rawhide in fact has wireframe resize (the setting is called reduced_resources, set it to TRUE).
I have done this (via gconf-editor), but it has no effect (even restarting metacity yielded nothing).
It's metacity-2.5.3-2 BTW.
Any ideas?
It looks like Alex lost the patch when upgrading from 2.4 to 2.5, he probably assumed that it was already in 2.5 upstream but it isn't.
I'll have to put the patch back.
"oops"
WORKSFORME now with metacity-2.5.3-3, kudos guys.
Nils
Féliciano Matias wrote:
Le ven 29/08/2003 à 16:27, Aaron_Morales@eogresources.com a écrit :
Could someone please point me in the right direction? I need to find out how to disable the window redraw feature in RH8.0's Metacity? This feature dramatically reduces performance when used in conjunction with high-res GIS images. Should you have to resize the window while that feature is enabled, it redraws over an over again until it reaches the desired window size. On sawfish, there was a way to disable that from the front end but I can't find where you would do that on Metacity. Can someone please help?
AFAIK it's not possible with metacity.
killall metacity icewm &
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