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Are there any players that play audio DVD's?
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 4:15 PM, jd1008 jd1008@gmail.com wrote:
Are there any players that play audio DVD's?
I imagine system will recognize audio format from DVD once inserted and send it to the appropriate preferred player. VLC is my personal fav. File -> Open Disk; and should pick it right up. I make gross assumptions that audio dvd means you just put audio formatted files on a DVD of course, so please take with a grain of salt.
-- Fred
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 10:20:55PM -0500, fred roller wrote:
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 4:15 PM, jd1008 <[1]jd1008@gmail.com> wrote:
Are there any players that play audio DVD's?
I imagine system will recognize audio format from DVD once inserted and send it to the appropriate preferred player. VLC is my personal fav. File -> Open Disk; and should pick it right up. I make gross assumptions that audio dvd means you just put audio formatted files on a DVD of course, so please take with a grain of salt. -- Fred
well, there are audio CDs, and then there are data CDs with data files that contain audio. they are quite different beasts.
I think the OP is asking about creating a DVD structured like an audio CD, rather than creating a DVD with data files that contain audio.
I think I'd use k3b (or your burner of choice) with a blank DVD and see if a DVD can be created in the same way as an audio CD. only if that works would there be any need to worry about how to play them.
Fred
On 11/18/2016 08:35 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 10:20:55PM -0500, fred roller wrote:
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 4:15 PM, jd1008 <[1]jd1008@gmail.com> wrote: Are there any players that play audio DVD's? I imagine system will recognize audio format from DVD once inserted and send it to the appropriate preferred player. VLC is my personal fav. File -> Open Disk; and should pick it right up. I make gross assumptions that audio dvd means you just put audio formatted files on a DVD of course, so please take with a grain of salt. -- Fredwell, there are audio CDs, and then there are data CDs with data files that contain audio. they are quite different beasts.
I think the OP is asking about creating a DVD structured like an audio CD, rather than creating a DVD with data files that contain audio.
I think I'd use k3b (or your burner of choice) with a blank DVD and see if a DVD can be created in the same way as an audio CD. only if that works would there be any need to worry about how to play them.
Fred
When I used dvd-audio-author, it created a VIDEO dvd format with dirs TS-AUDIO and TS-VIDEO but only the TS-AUDIO gets populated, and TS-VIDEO stays empty. But I have no way of playing.
On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 21:07:51 -0700 jd1008 jd1008@gmail.com wrote:
When I used dvd-audio-author, it created a VIDEO dvd format with dirs TS-AUDIO and TS-VIDEO but only the TS-AUDIO gets populated, and TS-VIDEO stays empty. But I have no way of playing.
I think you can use mplayer, with the -novideo option to play such a DVD. I've never done it, though. I vaguely recall playing a DVD with mplayer a long time ago just by pointing to it (/dev/dvdrw?, /media/dvd?, whatever the mount point is). There are extensive man pages for mplayer, and you can ask on the user list how to play such a DVD.
On 11/19/2016 03:53 PM, stan wrote:
On Fri, 18 Nov 2016 21:07:51 -0700 jd1008 jd1008@gmail.com wrote:
When I used dvd-audio-author, it created a VIDEO dvd format with dirs TS-AUDIO and TS-VIDEO but only the TS-AUDIO gets populated, and TS-VIDEO stays empty. But I have no way of playing.
I think you can use mplayer, with the -novideo option to play such a DVD. I've never done it, though. I vaguely recall playing a DVD with mplayer a long time ago just by pointing to it (/dev/dvdrw?, /media/dvd?, whatever the mount point is). There are extensive man pages for mplayer, and you can ask on the user list how to play such a DVD.
Are there any such players for the car?
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 16:30:39 -0700 jd1008 jd1008@gmail.com wrote:
Are there any such players for the car?
I think recent cars allow the cars player to play streams from mobiles, so you could probably use a laptop with a dvd player and route it to the in car player via wireless. Again, I haven't done this, but it seems feasible.
On 11/19/2016 05:12 PM, stan wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 16:30:39 -0700 jd1008 jd1008@gmail.com wrote:
Are there any such players for the car?
I think recent cars allow the cars player to play streams from mobiles, so you could probably use a laptop with a dvd player and route it to the in car player via wireless. Again, I haven't done this, but it seems feasible.
Went to a car stereo shop. They are totally puzzled by what I was asking, describing.
They said only Audio CD's can hold audio, and they are totally unfamiliar with the software end of things that create audio dvd's, and unfamiliar with hardware players for them.
On 11/19/2016 04:22 PM, jd1008 wrote:
Went to a car stereo shop. They are totally puzzled by what I was asking, describing.
They said only Audio CD's can hold audio, and they are totally unfamiliar with the software end of things that create audio dvd's, and unfamiliar with hardware players for them.
Of course. They're basically auto mechanics who know how to install/replace audio systems in cars. They don't know anything about how they work or anything about repairing them. What else did you expect?
On 11/19/2016 05:46 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 11/19/2016 04:22 PM, jd1008 wrote:
Went to a car stereo shop. They are totally puzzled by what I was asking, describing.
They said only Audio CD's can hold audio, and they are totally unfamiliar with the software end of things that create audio dvd's, and unfamiliar with hardware players for them.
Of course. They're basically auto mechanics who know how to install/replace audio systems in cars. They don't know anything about how they work or anything about repairing them. What else did you expect?
They seemed to know quite a bit about the existing technology of car audio/video players. They simply had never heard about players for audio-only DVD media.
On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 8:16 PM, jd1008 jd1008@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/19/2016 05:46 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
On 11/19/2016 04:22 PM, jd1008 wrote:
Went to a car stereo shop. They are totally puzzled by what I was asking, describing.
They said only Audio CD's can hold audio, and they are totally unfamiliar with the software end of things that create audio dvd's, and unfamiliar with hardware players for them.
Of course. They're basically auto mechanics who know how to install/replace audio systems in cars. They don't know anything about how they work or anything about repairing them. What else did you expect?
They seemed to know quite a bit about the existing technology of car audio/video players. They simply had never heard about players for audio-only DVD media.
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You could get a personal fm transmitter. I used one all the time when on long service calls to clients (for audio books I made and were on my laptop). Works like a charm albeit modern cars tend to have an input jack to receive as well.
On 11/19/2016 06:27 PM, fred roller wrote:
On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 8:16 PM, jd1008 <jd1008@gmail.com mailto:jd1008@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/19/2016 05:46 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/19/2016 04:22 PM, jd1008 wrote: Went to a car stereo shop. They are totally puzzled by what I was asking, describing. They said only Audio CD's can hold audio, and they are totally unfamiliar with the software end of things that create audio dvd's, and unfamiliar with hardware players for them. Of course. They're basically auto mechanics who know how to install/replace audio systems in cars. They don't know anything about how they work or anything about repairing them. What else did you expect? They seemed to know quite a bit about the existing technology of car audio/video players. They simply had never heard about players for audio-only DVD media. ___
Interesting idea - but it is too klutzy for me to put my old and heavy laptop on the passenger seat, and play such media with mplayer, or vlc or ffplay or other players. If I MUST use my laptop, I will just use a miniature headset, or a BT headset that receives the audio from a BT audio xmitter I plug into the audio out port of the laptop or into the USB port. I am not sure Linux has drivers for a USB based BT device that has audio in/out ports.
On 11/19/2016 07:27 PM, fred roller wrote:
On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 8:16 PM, jd1008 <jd1008@gmail.com mailto:jd1008@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/19/2016 05:46 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/19/2016 04:22 PM, jd1008 wrote: Went to a car stereo shop. They are totally puzzled by what I was asking, describing. They said only Audio CD's can hold audio, and they are totally unfamiliar with the software end of things that create audio dvd's, and unfamiliar with hardware players for them. Of course. They're basically auto mechanics who know how to install/replace audio systems in cars. They don't know anything about how they work or anything about repairing them. What else did you expect? They seemed to know quite a bit about the existing technology of car audio/video players. They simply had never heard about players for audio-only DVD media. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org> To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org>You could get a personal fm transmitter. I used one all the time when on long service calls to clients (for audio books I made and were on my laptop). Works like a charm albeit modern cars tend to have an input jack to receive as well.
For older cars with cassette players, you can get a device that looks like a cassette, but has an input that you can hook a computer or tablet, or perhaps a phone to, and it has a little magnetic transducer that will let the car think it's playing a cassette. Works a lot better than the FM adapter, since the FM gadget picks up interference. (If you can get to the radio's antenna jack and connect the FM adapter physically to the radio, that will work fine.)
--doug
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On 11/20/2016 02:10 AM, Doug wrote:
On 11/19/2016 07:27 PM, fred roller wrote:
On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 8:16 PM, jd1008 <jd1008@gmail.com mailto:jd1008@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/19/2016 05:46 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/19/2016 04:22 PM, jd1008 wrote: Went to a car stereo shop. They are totally puzzled by what I was asking, describing. They said only Audio CD's can hold audio, and they are totally unfamiliar with the software end of things that create audio dvd's, and unfamiliar with hardware players for them. Of course. They're basically auto mechanics who know how to install/replace audio systems in cars. They don't know anything about how they work or anything about repairing them. What else did you expect? They seemed to know quite a bit about the existing technology of car audio/video players. They simply had never heard about players for audio-only DVD media. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org> To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org <mailto:users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org>You could get a personal fm transmitter. I used one all the time when on long service calls to clients (for audio books I made and were on my laptop). Works like a charm albeit modern cars tend to have an input jack to receive as well.
For older cars with cassette players, you can get a device that looks like a cassette, but has an input that you can hook a computer or tablet, or perhaps a phone to, and it has a little magnetic transducer that will let the car think it's playing a cassette. Works a lot better than the FM adapter, since the FM gadget picks up interference. (If you can get to the radio's antenna jack and connect the FM adapter physically to the radio, that will work fine.)
I have a 2007 toyota. No cassette player :) It has CD player that can also play CD's recorded as data of mp3 files.
On 11/19/2016 06:22 PM, jd1008 wrote:
On 11/19/2016 05:12 PM, stan wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 16:30:39 -0700 jd1008 jd1008@gmail.com wrote:
Are there any such players for the car?
I think recent cars allow the cars player to play streams from mobiles, so you could probably use a laptop with a dvd player and route it to the in car player via wireless. Again, I haven't done this, but it seems feasible.
Went to a car stereo shop. They are totally puzzled by what I was asking, describing.
They said only Audio CD's can hold audio, and they are totally unfamiliar with the software end of things that create audio dvd's, and unfamiliar with hardware players for them. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org
DVD audio sounded like a no-brainer to me, and sure enough, a trip to Google confirmed my suspicion. There are even commercial ones. Look at: https://www.google.com/#q=audio+on+dvds%3F
--doug
On 11/20/2016 02:04 AM, Doug wrote:
On 11/19/2016 06:22 PM, jd1008 wrote:
On 11/19/2016 05:12 PM, stan wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2016 16:30:39 -0700 jd1008 jd1008@gmail.com wrote:
Are there any such players for the car?
I think recent cars allow the cars player to play streams from mobiles, so you could probably use a laptop with a dvd player and route it to the in car player via wireless. Again, I haven't done this, but it seems feasible.
Went to a car stereo shop. They are totally puzzled by what I was asking, describing.
They said only Audio CD's can hold audio, and they are totally unfamiliar with the software end of things that create audio dvd's, and unfamiliar with hardware players for them. _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave@lists.fedoraproject.org
DVD audio sounded like a no-brainer to me, and sure enough, a trip to Google confirmed my suspicion. There are even commercial ones. Look at: https://www.google.com/#q=audio+on+dvds%3F
--doug
It's car players I am looking for. I have a 2007 car and it's cd player does not recognize Audio DVD.
On 11/18/2016 08:35 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 10:20:55PM -0500, fred roller wrote:
On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 4:15 PM, jd1008 <[1]jd1008@gmail.com> wrote: Are there any players that play audio DVD's? I imagine system will recognize audio format from DVD once inserted and send it to the appropriate preferred player. VLC is my personal fav. File -> Open Disk; and should pick it right up. I make gross assumptions that audio dvd means you just put audio formatted files on a DVD of course, so please take with a grain of salt. -- Fredwell, there are audio CDs, and then there are data CDs with data files that contain audio. they are quite different beasts.
I think the OP is asking about creating a DVD structured like an audio CD, rather than creating a DVD with data files that contain audio.
I think I'd use k3b (or your burner of choice) with a blank DVD and see if a DVD can be created in the same way as an audio CD. only if that works would there be any need to worry about how to play them.
Fred
For those who would want to use a windoze version of dvd-audio-author, there is http://apollo-audio-dvd-creator.en.uptodown.com/windows/download
Allegedly, on or about 18 November 2016, fred roller sent:
I make gross assumptions that audio dvd means you just put audio formatted files on a DVD of course, so please take with a grain of salt.
DVD-audio (or DVD-A) is a different beast than DVD-video (the names should give you a clue about purpose), and vastly different than random kinds of audio data files that happen to be on a DVD (but could be on any medium).
DVD-audio was intended as an usurper to compact disc digital audio (large disc capacity, room for lots of audio, quality-wise, time-wise, and/or multi-channel). But it never really took off and DVD-audio is a rarity, and finding a player for it is even more unusual than finding the discs. I've never seen any in a shop, I think it'd all have to be special order.
fred roller:
I make gross assumptions that audio dvd means you just put audio formatted files on a DVD of course, so please take with a grain of salt.
DVD-audio (or DVD-A) is a different beast than DVD-video (the names should give you a clue about purpose), and vastly different than random kinds of audio data files that happen to be on a DVD (but could be on any medium).
DVD-audio was intended as an usurper to compact disc digital audio (large disc capacity, room for lots of audio, quality-wise, time-wise, and/or multi-channel). But it never really took off and DVD-audio is a rarity, and finding a player for it is even more unusual than finding the discs. I've never seen any in a shop, I think it'd all have to be special order.
A DVD-audio disc is not going to be played by most DVD players, only ones that deliberately support it will do so. Of course you can encode a selection of audio tracks to a DVD-video, and get a few hours of playback, that way. But the quality will be inferior due to the compression. Though, if you want a disc that can play for a couple of hours, or more, that may be more convenient than a compact disc.
And for something that you can playback in a car, you definitely want to make it start playing the files immediately, and progress through them all, so you don't need to navigate menus just to begin playback (unlike most movies).
On 11/18/2016 10:11 PM, Tim wrote:
Allegedly, on or about 18 November 2016, fred roller sent:
I make gross assumptions that audio dvd means you just put audio formatted files on a DVD of course, so please take with a grain of salt.
DVD-audio (or DVD-A) is a different beast than DVD-video (the names should give you a clue about purpose), and vastly different than random kinds of audio data files that happen to be on a DVD (but could be on any medium).
DVD-audio was intended as an usurper to compact disc digital audio (large disc capacity, room for lots of audio, quality-wise, time-wise, and/or multi-channel). But it never really took off and DVD-audio is a rarity, and finding a player for it is even more unusual than finding the discs. I've never seen any in a shop, I think it'd all have to be special order.
Just put DVD-A into Google and you come up with a batch of players, from ~$19.95 to ~ $200. Available at popular stores, according to Google.
--doug
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 12:41 AM, Doug dmcgarrett@optonline.net wrote:
I make gross assumptions that audio dvd means you just put audio
formatted files on a DVD of course, so please take with a grain of salt.
DVD-audio (or DVD-A) is a different beast than DVD-video (the names should give you a clue about purpose), and vastly different than random kinds of audio data files that happen to be on a DVD (but could be on any medium).
DVD-audio was intended as an usurper to compact disc digital audio (large disc capacity, room for lots of audio, quality-wise, time-wise, and/or multi-channel). But it never really took off and DVD-audio is a rarity, and finding a player for it is even more unusual than finding the discs. I've never seen any in a shop, I think it'd all have to be special order.
Thank you for the clarity.
Allegedly, on or about 28 November 2016, Doug sent:
Just put DVD-A into Google and you come up with a batch of players, from ~$19.95 to ~ $200. Available at popular stores, according to Google.
None of which (disc or player) I can buy from any store that I've ever been into. So my prior comment still stands: It'd have to be special order.
Not only are they unusual, they're virtually unknown.
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