On 10/14/09, Linuxguy123 linuxguy123@gmail.com wrote:
How is it working for you ?
If, by 'any other mini', you mean 'any netbook', then yes, I run it on an underpowered netbook (1st gen eee pc, but with memory upgraded to 2GB), and I'm quite happy with it.
Andras
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 21:02 +0200, Andras Simon wrote:
On 10/14/09, Linuxguy123 linuxguy123@gmail.com wrote:
How is it working for you ?
If, by 'any other mini', you mean 'any netbook', then yes, I run it on an underpowered netbook (1st gen eee pc, but with memory upgraded to 2GB), and I'm quite happy with it.
What processor does it have ? SSD ? How fast do applications run ? What do you find to be annoyingly slow ? How was it with 1 GB of RAM ?
Thanks !
On 10/14/09, Linuxguy123 linuxguy123@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 21:02 +0200, Andras Simon wrote:
On 10/14/09, Linuxguy123 linuxguy123@gmail.com wrote:
How is it working for you ?
If, by 'any other mini', you mean 'any netbook', then yes, I run it on an underpowered netbook (1st gen eee pc, but with memory upgraded to 2GB), and I'm quite happy with it.
What processor does it have ? SSD ? How fast do applications run ? What do you find to be annoyingly slow ? How was it with 1 GB of RAM ?
Celeron something (i.e., not even an Atom), 4G SSD, and it started life with 512M memory before getting 2G. Nothing is really slow, but then I only use Firefox (with lots of open tabs), and various document readers (acroread, evince, FBReader). I love it.
Andras
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 13:10 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote:
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 21:02 +0200, Andras Simon wrote:
On 10/14/09, Linuxguy123 linuxguy123@gmail.com wrote:
How is it working for you ?
If, by 'any other mini', you mean 'any netbook', then yes, I run it on an underpowered netbook (1st gen eee pc, but with memory upgraded to 2GB), and I'm quite happy with it.
What processor does it have ? SSD ? How fast do applications run ? What do you find to be annoyingly slow ? How was it with 1 GB of RAM ?
Thanks !
I have an EEEPC-1000H Atom N280 1GB RAM No SSD - yet
The PC is alright, I can definitely notice the slowness due to the atom processor, even the stripped down version of windows was a pain. I have it running pretty lean at the moment, but like I said, there is a huge difference between a regular 1.6Ghz and an Atom 1.6Ghz
The sound was not working properly off the bat, just had to modprobe the right module options and now it is working perfectly.
When it had 1GB of RAM things ran alright, flash tends to be a bit of an issue even when I have 2GB of ram (a bit choppy, but not too bad).
Other applications work fine, audio/video playback is great. The wireless works out of the box (even N).
I am going to get an SSD soon to try and speed a few things up. A 5400RPM drive + an Atom can choke a bit.
Tait Clarridge wrote:
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 13:10 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote:
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 21:02 +0200, Andras Simon wrote:
On 10/14/09, Linuxguy123 linuxguy123@gmail.com wrote:
How is it working for you ?
If, by 'any other mini', you mean 'any netbook', then yes, I run it on an underpowered netbook (1st gen eee pc, but with memory upgraded to 2GB), and I'm quite happy with it.
What processor does it have ? SSD ? How fast do applications run ? What do you find to be annoyingly slow ? How was it with 1 GB of RAM ?
Thanks !
I have an EEEPC-1000H Atom N280 1GB RAM No SSD - yet
The PC is alright, I can definitely notice the slowness due to the atom processor, even the stripped down version of windows was a pain. I have it running pretty lean at the moment, but like I said, there is a huge difference between a regular 1.6Ghz and an Atom 1.6Ghz
The sound was not working properly off the bat, just had to modprobe the right module options and now it is working perfectly.
When it had 1GB of RAM things ran alright, flash tends to be a bit of an issue even when I have 2GB of ram (a bit choppy, but not too bad).
Flash "choppiness" depends mainly on the CPU, so even if you have 4 GB of RAM, you'll still get the choppy flash.
Other applications work fine, audio/video playback is great. The wireless works out of the box (even N).
I am going to get an SSD soon to try and speed a few things up. A 5400RPM drive + an Atom can choke a bit.
Linuxguy123 wrote:
How is it working for you ?
I run it on an Acer Aspire One. Works fine. Don't use it much, the display is somewhat small for my old eyes and the keyboard is a but tight for my hands, but it works perfectly--including audio.
Only complaint is that it won't light up the WLAN LED, but WLAN works well. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ricks@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - Do you know how to save five drowning lawyers? No? GOOD! - ----------------------------------------------------------------------
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:12:52 -0700 Rick Stevens wrote:
Linuxguy123 wrote:
How is it working for you ?
I run it on an Acer Aspire One. Works fine.
*blink* Is THAT what he meant by minicomputer? How could you possibly call something like that a mini? "See my tractor-trailer rig" and I show you a Honda Civic with trailer hitch?
Don't use it much, the display is somewhat small for my old eyes and the keyboard is a but tight for my hands, but it works perfectly--including audio.
I love my Acer Aspire One; it's great for what I use it for (reading books and network testing, mostly). The keyboard is indeed too small to do any real typing on, though.
Only complaint is that it won't light up the WLAN LED, but WLAN works well.
My wireless indicator led magically started working a couple of kernel updates ago.
2009/10/14 Frank Cox theatre@sasktel.net
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:12:52 -0700 Rick Stevens wrote:
Linuxguy123 wrote:
How is it working for you ?
I run it on an Acer Aspire One. Works fine.
*blink* Is THAT what he meant by minicomputer? How could you possibly call something like that a mini? "See my tractor-trailer rig" and I show you a Honda Civic with trailer hitch?
Brand names... The brand in question is a Dell Mini (9|12).
NB: your age is showing, best zip up ;o)
-- Sam
Frank Cox wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:12:52 -0700 Rick Stevens wrote:
Linuxguy123 wrote:
How is it working for you ?
I run it on an Acer Aspire One. Works fine.
*blink* Is THAT what he meant by minicomputer? How could you possibly call something like that a mini? "See my tractor-trailer rig" and I show you a Honda Civic with trailer hitch?
Well, I'm assuming that's what s/he meant. I, too, am of the old school where "mainframes" were S/370s, Sigmas and the like; "minis" were PDP-11s, Vaxen, Novas and their ilk; and "micros" were anything smaller. With "laptops", "portables" and "netbooks", the lines are even fuzzier.
Don't use it much, the display is somewhat small for my old eyes and the keyboard is a but tight for my hands, but it works perfectly--including audio.
I love my Acer Aspire One; it's great for what I use it for (reading books and network testing, mostly). The keyboard is indeed too small to do any real typing on, though.
And the touchpad can be a bit too sensitive. But then, I'm a big oaf.
Only complaint is that it won't light up the WLAN LED, but WLAN works well.
My wireless indicator led magically started working a couple of kernel updates ago.
Hmmm. Mine still hasn't. I did do a big-arsed update a couple of days ago, but I haven't rebooted the machine since then. Perhaps it will work now. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ricks@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - Which is worse: ignorance or apathy? I don't know. Who cares? - ----------------------------------------------------------------------
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:50:14 -0700 Rick Stevens wrote:
And the touchpad can be a bit too sensitive. But then, I'm a big oaf.
I got caught out by that a couple of weeks ago. The only touchpad computer that I use on a regular basis is my little Acer, and I had to set up a new Mac laptop for a customer. It's the first Mac that I've actually touched since the SE was the latest thing, so I really hadn't much of a clue what I was doing. It took me several minutes to figure out that I had to give the touchpad a really good push to make it register a click; any touchpads I've used on other computers register a gentle tap. I spent quite a while wondering why my clicks didn't appear to be doing anything, but assuming that they were being read. The joy of troubleshooting something I know nothing about....
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 12:50 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote:
Frank Cox wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:12:52 -0700 Rick Stevens wrote:
Linuxguy123 wrote:
How is it working for you ?
I run it on an Acer Aspire One. Works fine.
*blink* Is THAT what he meant by minicomputer? How could you possibly call something like that a mini? "See my tractor-trailer rig" and I show you a Honda Civic with trailer hitch?
Well, I'm assuming that's what s/he meant. I, too, am of the old school where "mainframes" were S/370s, Sigmas and the like; "minis" were PDP-11s, Vaxen, Novas and their ilk; and "micros" were anything smaller. With "laptops", "portables" and "netbooks", the lines are even fuzzier.
I feel the same way about the "Mini" moniker. I guess its somewhat justified that the netbooks are called Minis because they have more computing power than the old minis (PDP 11 et al) did.
There isn't anything mini about a PDP11 any more... except if you compare its size to an old mainframe.
Its astonishing to think how much processing power we can buy for ~$400 these days. (See HP Mini 311, for example...) 30 years ago $400 would have bought less than a day's computing time. Now it buys an entire machine that is way faster and nicer.
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:54:57 -0600 Linuxguy123 wrote:
How is it working for you ?
Dell makes minicomputers? I thought minis were higher-end equipment than Dell's target market, more the territory of IBM, HP and the like.
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy123@gmail.com wrote:
How is it working for you ?
Thanks
Asus EEEPC 4G (+ 4GB SD Card, 4k striped LVM formatted to ext4) 512MB Ram F11 LXDE Updated BIOS to get full 900MHz on CeleronM cpu.
Performance is pretty good but scrolling in FF w/ Flash heavy sites still lag a bit sometimes.
Richard
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 15:34 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy123@gmail.com wrote:
How is it working for you ?
Thanks
Asus EEEPC 4G (+ 4GB SD Card, 4k striped LVM formatted to ext4) 512MB Ram F11 LXDE Updated BIOS to get full 900MHz on CeleronM cpu.
Performance is pretty good but scrolling in FF w/ Flash heavy sites still lag a bit sometimes.
Can you watch youtube videos ? In HD ?
Thanks
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy123@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 15:34 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy123@gmail.com wrote: Asus EEEPC 4G (+ 4GB SD Card, 4k striped LVM formatted to ext4) 512MB Ram F11 LXDE Updated BIOS to get full 900MHz on CeleronM cpu.
Performance is pretty good but scrolling in FF w/ Flash heavy sites still lag a bit sometimes.
Can you watch youtube videos ? In HD ?
I haven't really tried but if I have some time tonight I give it a whirl. Right now the wife is using it as her primary computer since the hard drive died in her laptop.
Richard
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 15:34 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy123@gmail.com wrote:
How is it working for you ?
Thanks
Do the netbooks (Atoms, AMDs et al) just run a plain x86_64 distribution ? Or does one need to mod a few things ?
Thanks
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:42:27 -0600 Linuxguy123 linuxguy123@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 15:34 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy123@gmail.com wrote:
How is it working for you ?
Thanks
Do the netbooks (Atoms, AMDs et al) just run a plain x86_64 distribution ? Or does one need to mod a few things ?
For the Intel based ones generally a plain x86-32 distribution. It's a win to compile a custom kernel optimised for Atom, and ditto glibc so that you get the later instruction optimisations.
Be careful which Dell mini and do your research on compatibility. A lot of the netbooks have unsupported broadcom wireless devices, and the Dell mini-10 also has unsupported video (the 10v has more 'normal' video)
Another problem is that a lot of the touchpads on mini laptops suck so try, test and see. I have a Dell mini-9 which actually gets used as a firewall/router (small, built in console screen, built in UPS !) where the wireless doesn't work and the touchpad isn't great, and a Samsung NC-10 with real hard disk which has become my travelling box and runs a full Fedora.
Definitely try before you buy...
Alan
Alan Cox wrote:
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 14:42:27 -0600 Linuxguy123 linuxguy123@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 15:34 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy123@gmail.com wrote:
How is it working for you ?
Thanks
Do the netbooks (Atoms, AMDs et al) just run a plain x86_64 distribution ? Or does one need to mod a few things ?
For the Intel based ones generally a plain x86-32 distribution. It's a win to compile a custom kernel optimised for Atom, and ditto glibc so that you get the later instruction optimisations.
Be careful which Dell mini and do your research on compatibility. A lot of the netbooks have unsupported broadcom wireless devices, and the Dell mini-10 also has unsupported video (the 10v has more 'normal' video)
Another problem is that a lot of the touchpads on mini laptops suck so try, test and see. I have a Dell mini-9 which actually gets used as a firewall/router (small, built in console screen, built in UPS !) where the wireless doesn't work and the touchpad isn't great, and a Samsung NC-10 with real hard disk which has become my travelling box and runs a full Fedora.
Definitely try before you buy...
I concur. I got my Acer (it's the 32-bit Atom beastie) because it's handy in emergencies. As I said, the display's too small, the keyboard too cramped and the touchpad too sensitive for daily use. For daily heavy use, I have an HP dv6565us laptop (64-bit F11) and a plethora of desktop machines (all 64-bit F11 except one that's still 64-bit F10). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ricks@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2 ICQ: 22643734 Yahoo: origrps2 - - - - su -; find / -name someone -exec touch {} ; - - - The UNIX way of touching someone - ----------------------------------------------------------------------
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 14:42 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote:
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 15:34 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy123@gmail.com wrote:
How is it working for you ?
Thanks
Do the netbooks (Atoms, AMDs et al) just run a plain x86_64 distribution ? Or does one need to mod a few things ?
Thanks
The atoms are i686, not sure if the AMD ones are too..
Tait Clarridge wrote:
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 14:42 -0600, Linuxguy123 wrote:
On Wed, 2009-10-14 at 15:34 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote:
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy123@gmail.com wrote:
How is it working for you ?
Thanks
Do the netbooks (Atoms, AMDs et al) just run a plain x86_64 distribution ? Or does one need to mod a few things ?
Thanks
The atoms are i686, not sure if the AMD ones are too..
Yes, they definitely are.
I thought GEEKOM mini PCs were higher-end equipment than Dell's. https://www.geekompc.com
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