Hi,
I upgraded to F31 late last week and I am missing the MiscFixed 16 font that I prefer using. Where would I find it?
Many thanks, Ranjan
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Dear friends,
Sorry to add to my own post, but I do have xorg-x11-fonts-misc bitmap-fixed-fonts and ucs-miscfixed-fonts installed (they got updated).
Is there anything that is new and I should be looking at?
Many thanks, Ranjan
On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 11:46:15 -0600 Ranjan Maitra maitra@email.com wrote:
Hi,
I upgraded to F31 late last week and I am missing the MiscFixed 16 font that I prefer using. Where would I find it?
Many thanks, Ranjan
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On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 23:56:12 -0800 Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 11/4/19 9:46 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
I upgraded to F31 late last week and I am missing the MiscFixed 16 font that I prefer using. Where would I find it?
Where are you looking for it? Why do you think it's missing?
Thanks for looking into this, I don't exactly know where to look for it, but the font is not accessed.
For example, my sylpheed (mailer) has the following preferences to display my e-mail (in my sylpheedrc):
message_font_name=Fixed 16
On my F30 machine, which is where I am typing from, the font displays just fine. On my F31 (which was upgraded from F30 last Friday), I get blocks of garbage characters. See:
https://pasteboard.co/IFjCULo.png
So, OK, this could be a sudden F31 issue with sylpheed. However, I don't think so because I get the same problem with sakura (terminal) which has the same font. See:
https://pasteboard.co/IFjEes1.png
Something is off in F31: I have the same packages installed as before (this was a clean upgrade, with no notifications, errors or warnings).
Many thanks again for your help!
Best wishes, Ranjan
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On 11/5/19 10:31 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 23:56:12 -0800 Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 11/4/19 9:46 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
I upgraded to F31 late last week and I am missing the MiscFixed 16 font that I prefer using. Where would I find it?
Where are you looking for it? Why do you think it's missing?
Thanks for looking into this, I don't exactly know where to look for it, but the font is not accessed.
For example, my sylpheed (mailer) has the following preferences to display my e-mail (in my sylpheedrc):
message_font_name=Fixed 16
On my F30 machine, which is where I am typing from, the font displays just fine. On my F31 (which was upgraded from F30 last Friday), I get blocks of garbage characters. See:
https://pasteboard.co/IFjCULo.png
So, OK, this could be a sudden F31 issue with sylpheed. However, I don't think so because I get the same problem with sakura (terminal) which has the same font. See:
https://pasteboard.co/IFjEes1.png
Something is off in F31: I have the same packages installed as before (this was a clean upgrade, with no notifications, errors or warnings).
Ok, that's what I was looking for. The funny thing is that I had just been reading about how Pango can no longer use bitmap fonts like that. I suspect that's what happened. There is some way to convert the bitmap font to open type which can be used. I suggest doing a search for "pango bitmap fonts" to see a lot of discussion about this and how to work around it.
On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 10:44:50 -0800 Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 11/5/19 10:31 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
On Mon, 4 Nov 2019 23:56:12 -0800 Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 11/4/19 9:46 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
I upgraded to F31 late last week and I am missing the MiscFixed 16 font that I prefer using. Where would I find it?
Where are you looking for it? Why do you think it's missing?
Thanks for looking into this, I don't exactly know where to look for it, but the font is not accessed.
For example, my sylpheed (mailer) has the following preferences to display my e-mail (in my sylpheedrc):
message_font_name=Fixed 16
On my F30 machine, which is where I am typing from, the font displays just fine. On my F31 (which was upgraded from F30 last Friday), I get blocks of garbage characters. See:
https://pasteboard.co/IFjCULo.png
So, OK, this could be a sudden F31 issue with sylpheed. However, I don't think so because I get the same problem with sakura (terminal) which has the same font. See:
https://pasteboard.co/IFjEes1.png
Something is off in F31: I have the same packages installed as before (this was a clean upgrade, with no notifications, errors or warnings).
Ok, that's what I was looking for. The funny thing is that I had just been reading about how Pango can no longer use bitmap fonts like that. I suspect that's what happened. There is some way to convert the bitmap font to open type which can be used. I suggest doing a search for "pango bitmap fonts" to see a lot of discussion about this and how to work around it.
Thanks very much! This is more complicated that I thought with unclear chances of success. Perhaps I can just roll my own pango rpm stuck at 1.43 for now and see whether that will do the work.
I really like my font and would like to keep using it.
Ranjan
On 11/5/19 11:29 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
Thanks very much! This is more complicated that I thought with unclear chances of success. Perhaps I can just roll my own pango rpm stuck at 1.43 for now and see whether that will do the work.
I really like my font and would like to keep using it.
The instructions I've seen look fairly simple to convert the font. Certainly easier than maintaining your own rpm which likely won't even work with the applications you want to run.
On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 12:29:28 -0800 Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 11/5/19 11:29 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
Thanks very much! This is more complicated that I thought with unclear chances of success. Perhaps I can just roll my own pango rpm stuck at 1.43 for now and see whether that will do the work.
I really like my font and would like to keep using it.
The instructions I've seen look fairly simple to convert the font.
Thanks very much. We may have been looking at different posts, so I would appreciate if you could point me to some sources.
Certainly easier than maintaining your own rpm which likely won't even work with the applications you want to run.
Likely true, this is not a solution.
Are there alternatives to pango for terminal, etc? I like xterm but it does not have the ability for tabs and transparency. The rest is not as important as my font.
Ranjan
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On 11/5/19 1:34 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 12:29:28 -0800 Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 11/5/19 11:29 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
Thanks very much! This is more complicated that I thought with unclear chances of success. Perhaps I can just roll my own pango rpm stuck at 1.43 for now and see whether that will do the work.
I really like my font and would like to keep using it.
The instructions I've seen look fairly simple to convert the font.
Thanks very much. We may have been looking at different posts, so I would appreciate if you could point me to some sources.
I found there is already a Fedora page for it: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BitmapFontConversion
On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:04:53 -0800 Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 11/5/19 1:34 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 12:29:28 -0800 Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 11/5/19 11:29 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
Thanks very much! This is more complicated that I thought with unclear chances of success. Perhaps I can just roll my own pango rpm stuck at 1.43 for now and see whether that will do the work.
I really like my font and would like to keep using it.
The instructions I've seen look fairly simple to convert the font.
Thanks very much. We may have been looking at different posts, so I would appreciate if you could point me to some sources.
I found there is already a Fedora page for it: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BitmapFontConversion
Thanks very much! I found that there is already fonttosfnt in Fedora. I don't know if this is the same as in the copr repository but when I use the
"Commands for the ucs-miscfixed-font font"
nothing changes.
I am not sure if this means that some more work is needed to be done.
Thanks again! Ranjan
On 11/6/19 10:54 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:04:53 -0800 Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 11/5/19 1:34 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
Thanks very much. We may have been looking at different posts, so I would appreciate if you could point me to some sources.
I found there is already a Fedora page for it: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BitmapFontConversion
Thanks very much! I found that there is already fonttosfnt in Fedora. I don't know if this is the same as in the copr repository but when I use the
"Commands for the ucs-miscfixed-font font"
nothing changes.
I am not sure if this means that some more work is needed to be done.
On that page they left out the final operation. You have to move the resulting font files to ~/.local/share/fonts.
On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 23:23:52 -0800 Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 11/6/19 10:54 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:04:53 -0800 Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 11/5/19 1:34 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
Thanks very much. We may have been looking at different posts, so I would appreciate if you could point me to some sources.
I found there is already a Fedora page for it: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BitmapFontConversion
Thanks very much! I found that there is already fonttosfnt in Fedora. I don't know if this is the same as in the copr repository but when I use the
"Commands for the ucs-miscfixed-font font"
nothing changes.
I am not sure if this means that some more work is needed to be done.
On that page they left out the final operation. You have to move the resulting font files to ~/.local/share/fonts.
Thanks, I did this but no change. Do I have to configure something else to tell it to look there for the fonts. I had to create the ~/.local/share/fonts directory (it did not exist).
Thanks again! Ranjan
On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 at 13:58, Ranjan Maitra maitra@email.com wrote:
On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 23:23:52 -0800 Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 11/6/19 10:54 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 21:04:53 -0800 Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 11/5/19 1:34 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
Thanks very much. We may have been looking at different posts, so I
would appreciate if you could point me to some sources.
I found there is already a Fedora page for it: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BitmapFontConversion
Thanks very much! I found that there is already fonttosfnt in Fedora.
I don't know if this is the same as in the copr repository but when I use the
"Commands for the ucs-miscfixed-font font"
nothing changes.
I am not sure if this means that some more work is needed to be done.
On that page they left out the final operation. You have to move the resulting font files to ~/.local/share/fonts.
Thanks, I did this but no change. Do I have to configure something else to tell it to look there for the fonts. I had to create the ~/.local/share/fonts directory (it did not exist).
You may need to update the fontconfig cache with "fc-cache --verbose ~/.local/share/fonts". You should see that your new fonts are found.
In my experience such conversions are no substitute for a high quality outline font. There are many good open and free fixed width outline fonts. Adobe Source Code Pro was one of the first, but there are many newer higher quality fonts. I look for fonts with different appearances for "O0", "1|l", and "B8".
On 1/31/21 5:02 AM, George N. White III wrote:
On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 at 13:58, Ranjan Maitra <maitra@email.com mailto:maitra@email.com> wrote: Thanks, I did this but no change. Do I have to configure something else to tell it to look there for the fonts. I had to create the ~/.local/share/fonts directory (it did not exist).
You may need to update the fontconfig cache with "fc-cache --verbose ~/.local/share/fonts". You should see that your new fonts are found.
I actually just did this for my son a couple of days ago. I created the directory and copied a font file in. It was immediately available without doing anything else.
I am kind of curious though how you happened to reply to an email that is over a year old.
On Sun, 31 Jan 2021 at 18:37, Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
On 1/31/21 5:02 AM, George N. White III wrote:
On Thu, 7 Nov 2019 at 13:58, Ranjan Maitra <maitra@email.com mailto:maitra@email.com> wrote: Thanks, I did this but no change. Do I have to configure something else to tell it to look there for the fonts. I had to create the ~/.local/share/fonts directory (it did not exist).
You may need to update the fontconfig cache with "fc-cache --verbose ~/.local/share/fonts". You should see that your new fonts are found.
I actually just did this for my son a couple of days ago. I created the directory and copied a font file in. It was immediately available without doing anything else.
I am kind of curious though how you happened to reply to an email that is over a year old.
The thread just showed up in my inbox (gmail) so I didn't look at the dates. Messages from 2019 should have been deleted (or archived if I thought I might want to refer to them again) long ago. Gmail seems to be going through a period of "something is wrong" events, and the total number of messages in my inbox seems to have ballooned.
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