I noticed that the current available version on the F11 repos for HPLIP is 3.9.2, but the most current version available from HP is version 3.9.8.
A friend of mine installed this version on his F11 x86_64 system and found that it works much MUCH better.
So... When will we see 3.9.8 hit the repositories?
Cheers,
Chris
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On 08/08/09 15:36, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
I noticed that the current available version on the F11 repos for HPLIP is 3.9.2, but the most current version available from HP is version 3.9.8.
A friend of mine installed this version on his F11 x86_64 system and found that it works much MUCH better.
And other have had nothing but trouble. ymmv
Have you check ed updates-testing to see if it has an update? :D
The best way to ask is a bugzilla, explaining why you think the update is worthwhile.
On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 15:41 +0100, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote:
On 08/08/09 15:36, Christopher A. Williams wrote:
I noticed that the current available version on the F11 repos for HPLIP is 3.9.2, but the most current version available from HP is version 3.9.8.
A friend of mine installed this version on his F11 x86_64 system and found that it works much MUCH better.
And other have had nothing but trouble. ymmv
Have you check ed updates-testing to see if it has an update? :D
The best way to ask is a bugzilla, explaining why you think the update is worthwhile.
Well, the compilation of release notes between 3.9.2 and 3.9.8 might be a good start as to a justification.
Amazing what:
yum --enablerepo updates-testing check-update hplip
...is able to tell you. :)
Is there a BZ existing already so I don't have to create another one?
Cheers,
Chris
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--Yogi Berra
On 08/08/09 16:01, Christopher A. Williams wrote: --snip--
Amazing what:
yum --enablerepo updates-testing check-update hplip
...is able to tell you. :)
Is there a BZ existing already so I don't have to create another one?
No need, now that you know it's been tested for F11. You can help test it yourself, and report any problems to the testing-list.
On Saturday 08 August 2009 15:36:56 Christopher A. Williams wrote:
I noticed that the current available version on the F11 repos for HPLIP is 3.9.2, but the most current version available from HP is version 3.9.8.
A friend of mine installed this version on his F11 x86_64 system and found that it works much MUCH better.
So... When will we see 3.9.8 hit the repositories?
Sounds like a subjective statement to me :-) Did your friend say exactly what works better?
I've been using hplip for 2 years. IMO the only thing that has changed is that later versions have drivers for later devices. If your device is supported with the version you have got, you have no need to change.
Anne
On Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:41:07 +0100 Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote:
And other have had nothing but trouble. ymmv
I noticed when investigating my problems with printing DVDs that the newest hplip is a complete transformation from the old ghostscript based drivers to a direct raster driver (or something like that, I probably don't have all the jargon down pat :-). I really wonder how many of the obscure corner cases added over the years for various printers made it through the transformation.
On the other hand, there is the option to build both the old style and new style drivers, so perhaps if they were both included people could use whichever one works best for their case.
I am interested to see if the new drivers will let me fix the margins so I can print the whole DVD and not have the little 1 or 2 mm sliver that is missing at the top right now. (But not interested enough to go to the trouble to manually install it - it will show up eventually and I'll play with it then :-).
On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 16:04 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Saturday 08 August 2009 15:36:56 Christopher A. Williams wrote:
I noticed that the current available version on the F11 repos for HPLIP is 3.9.2, but the most current version available from HP is version 3.9.8.
A friend of mine installed this version on his F11 x86_64 system and found that it works much MUCH better.
So... When will we see 3.9.8 hit the repositories?
Sounds like a subjective statement to me :-) Did your friend say exactly what works better?
I've been using hplip for 2 years. IMO the only thing that has changed is that later versions have drivers for later devices. If your device is supported with the version you have got, you have no need to change.
Actually, I've been using hplip since it first came out with Fedora. I've used Fedora and its predecessors since the old RHL 4.X series. I have an OfficeJet 6210xi all-in-one myself. Not the newest of printers to be sure.
I just upgraded to 3.9.8 and saw an immediate improvement in printer speed and responsiveness. Print quality is about the same. I haven't tested it yet, but with 3.9.2, I found that if I used the scanner, I would have to turn the printer off and then back on again before it would print. I'll post to fedora-test-list with results when I get a chance to test that.
My friend has a newer OfficeJet J4680 series WiFi printer. He said he saw the same improvements in terms of printer speed and performance, but he also said that (qualitatively) the print quality improved as well. Since we don't have a ruler to measure that against, we have to leave that as a subjective assessment.
Hope that helps!
Cheers,
Chris
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On Saturday 08 August 2009 16:37:17 Christopher A. Williams wrote:
On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 16:04 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Saturday 08 August 2009 15:36:56 Christopher A. Williams wrote:
I noticed that the current available version on the F11 repos for HPLIP is 3.9.2, but the most current version available from HP is version 3.9.8.
A friend of mine installed this version on his F11 x86_64 system and found that it works much MUCH better.
So... When will we see 3.9.8 hit the repositories?
Sounds like a subjective statement to me :-) Did your friend say exactly what works better?
I've been using hplip for 2 years. IMO the only thing that has changed is that later versions have drivers for later devices. If your device is supported with the version you have got, you have no need to change.
I don't recall the version, but when I first got it there were no rpms - I had to install it direct from the HP site. It's so much easier now :-)
Actually, I've been using hplip since it first came out with Fedora. I've used Fedora and its predecessors since the old RHL 4.X series. I have an OfficeJet 6210xi all-in-one myself. Not the newest of printers to be sure.
I just upgraded to 3.9.8 and saw an immediate improvement in printer speed and responsiveness.
That sounds like an updated driver, then.
Print quality is about the same. I haven't tested it yet, but with 3.9.2, I found that if I used the scanner, I would have to turn the printer off and then back on again before it would print. I'll post to fedora-test-list with results when I get a chance to test that.
I don't use the scanner in software much, usually scanning to pen-drive, but I've never seen that particular problem. Again, I would think that it's very much down to the drivers for individual devices.
My friend has a newer OfficeJet J4680 series WiFi printer. He said he saw the same improvements in terms of printer speed and performance, but he also said that (qualitatively) the print quality improved as well. Since we don't have a ruler to measure that against, we have to leave that as a subjective assessment.
Hope that helps!
I have two devices attached - a wifi-attached multi-function and a duplexing ink-jet. I can't say that I've noticed any difference at all on the ink-jet. The all-in-one seems slower to start up, but that again is subjective. It may be the particular documents, of course.
As I said, if it worked for you before you don't need to upgrade. If you had issues it's probably worth a try. But as Frank said, it hasn't been an improvement for everyone, so be prepared to remove and revert if it doesn't work.
Anne
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