I'm putting together a virtualized server. I was planning to use Fedora 9, until I found out that Fedora 9 won't run as a Dom0, so I ended up using Fedora 8 instead.
I also learned that the standard EOL policy is to discontinue support for release N one month after the release of release N+2.
Since Dom0 support isn't expected until Fedora 10, it sounds like this means that I will have to upgrade my system in the first month immediately following the release of Fedora 10, or lose support. Neither option seems particularly reasonable to me.
Since upgrading from Fedora 8 to Fedora 9 isn't an option for anyone using Xen, I am wondering if there is any plan to extend Fedora 8's support period beyond the usual one month?
MV
Martin Vuille schrieb:
Since upgrading from Fedora 8 to Fedora 9 isn't an option for anyone using Xen, I am wondering if there is any plan to extend Fedora 8's support period beyond the usual one month?
Frankly I don't know but I don't think that this is very likely to happen. If upgrading is an issue for you, you should look at RHEL (or one of the 'gratis' clones like CentOS).
fs
Oh, and besides that I'm note sure if running Xen/Dom0 on Fedora 8 is advisable from a security pov: I think the xen kernel (2.6.21) lacks quite a few security patches that the normal Fedora kernel already got...
fs
Felix Schwarz felix.schwarz@web.de wrote in news:4859F063.6090704@web.de:
Oh, and besides that I'm note sure if running Xen/Dom0 on Fedora 8 is advisable from a security pov: I think the xen kernel (2.6.21) lacks quite a few security patches that the normal Fedora kernel already got...
OK, so what would you recommend then?
MV
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 09:41:57AM +0000, Martin Vuille wrote:
Felix Schwarz felix.schwarz@web.de wrote in news:4859F063.6090704@web.de:
Oh, and besides that I'm note sure if running Xen/Dom0 on Fedora 8 is advisable from a security pov: I think the xen kernel (2.6.21) lacks quite a few security patches that the normal Fedora kernel already got...
OK, so what would you recommend then?
What are your requirements ? Perhaps:
* Modern Dom0 * Ability to run LVM * ISO image to install from
For me: * x86_64 * something that comes with X windows
Felix Schwarz felix.schwarz@web.de wrote in news:4859EFE2.4090101@web.de:
Martin Vuille schrieb:
Since upgrading from Fedora 8 to Fedora 9 isn't an option for anyone using Xen, I am wondering if there is any plan to extend Fedora 8's support period beyond the usual one month?
Frankly I don't know but I don't think that this is very likely to happen. If upgrading is an issue for you, you should look at RHEL (or one of the 'gratis' clones like CentOS).
I don't have an issue with upgrading; I chose Fedora because I wanted a distro that was at the leading edge.
But that doesn't mean that I want to upgrade to the latest Fedora release on the same day it's released. I will upgrade during the one-month grace period if I have to, but I would have been more comfortable with a little more wiggle room.
MV
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 09:40:57AM +0000, Martin Vuille wrote:
Felix Schwarz felix.schwarz@web.de wrote in news:4859EFE2.4090101@web.de:
Martin Vuille schrieb:
Since upgrading from Fedora 8 to Fedora 9 isn't an option for anyone using Xen, I am wondering if there is any plan to extend Fedora 8's support period beyond the usual one month?
Frankly I don't know but I don't think that this is very likely to happen. If upgrading is an issue for you, you should look at RHEL (or one of the 'gratis' clones like CentOS).
I don't have an issue with upgrading; I chose Fedora because I wanted a distro that was at the leading edge.
But that doesn't mean that I want to upgrade to the latest Fedora release on the same day it's released. I will upgrade during the one-month grace period if I have to, but I would have been more comfortable with a little more wiggle room.
You'll need to ask Dan Berrange to be certain, but I'm pretty sure the plan is to have a dom0 kernel ready some time during the lifetime of F9.
The reason we don't have an F9 dom0 kernel right now is because there *isn't one*. Ask XenSource to provide something more recent than > 2 year old Linux 2.6.18 support! Red Hat are committing two full time developers right now to fix this situation, but it is NOT our fault.
You might also want to try out KVM.
Rich.
"Richard W.M. Jones" rjones@redhat.com wrote in news:20080620212533.GA12531@thinkpad.comcastbusiness.net:
You'll need to ask Dan Berrange to be certain, but I'm pretty sure the plan is to have a dom0 kernel ready some time during the lifetime of F9.
The reason we don't have an F9 dom0 kernel right now is because there *isn't one*. Ask XenSource to provide something more recent than > 2 year old Linux 2.6.18 support! Red Hat are committing two full time developers right now to fix this situation, but it is NOT our fault.
Thanks for the clarification. I'll keep on the lookout for updates in F9.
MV
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 09:48:17PM +0000, Martin Vuille wrote:
"Richard W.M. Jones" rjones@redhat.com wrote in news:20080620212533.GA12531@thinkpad.comcastbusiness.net:
You'll need to ask Dan Berrange to be certain, but I'm pretty sure the plan is to have a dom0 kernel ready some time during the lifetime of F9.
The reason we don't have an F9 dom0 kernel right now is because there *isn't one*. Ask XenSource to provide something more recent than > 2 year old Linux 2.6.18 support! Red Hat are committing two full time developers right now to fix this situation, but it is NOT our fault.
Thanks for the clarification. I'll keep on the lookout for updates in F9.
Fedora 9 is basically DomU only and we're still working on getting the x86_64 patches accepted in upstream LKML trees. Best guess is that this will be 2.6.27 . In parallel we're still working on Dom0 support with pvops
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/XenPvopsDom0
Daniel.
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 05:25:33PM -0400, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
The reason we don't have an F9 dom0 kernel right now is because there *isn't one*. Ask XenSource to provide something more recent than > 2 year old Linux 2.6.18 support! Red Hat are committing two full time developers right now to fix this situation, but it is NOT our fault.
It's been pointed out to me that Jeremy Fitzhardinge (at XenSource) is driving the pv_ops work which will bring a modern dom0 into Fedora 9 or 10.
I don't want to forget or diminish Jeremy's crucial efforts.
Rich.
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 12:23:10AM +0000, Martin Vuille wrote:
I'm putting together a virtualized server. I was planning to use Fedora 9, until I found out that Fedora 9 won't run as a Dom0, so I ended up using Fedora 8 instead.
Damn - I have just run into the buffers because of that. I have just reinstalled my test box with Fedora 9 ... wanted to run several guests under it. Shame it was not flagged up bigger somewhere.
Alain Williams wrote:
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 12:23:10AM +0000, Martin Vuille wrote:
I'm putting together a virtualized server. I was planning to use Fedora 9, until I found out that Fedora 9 won't run as a Dom0, so I ended up using Fedora 8 instead.
Damn - I have just run into the buffers because of that. I have just reinstalled my test box with Fedora 9 ... wanted to run several guests under it. Shame it was not flagged up bigger somewhere.
I'm currently on an F8 Dom0 at the moment, but I'll need to upgrade Xen fairly soon. At the moment, it seems to me that one of the Solaris distros is the way to go, particularly since they have built-in Windows PV drivers. There also seems to be a lot of development activity.
-Evan
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