On Wed, 2019-01-16 at 21:27 +0000, WordPress wrote:
Adding a note from last week's meeting -- I think the consensus was that ZFS and a custom kernel (we think that's required?) were not something the editors felt we should strongly promote in Fedora, since it means the kernel taint flag is set. Can this be rethought with another compression option?
The kernel does not have to be recompiled, but a module (zfs.ko) does. The module, when loaded, does indeed taint the kernel. Here is the line that displays in my dmesg output:
znvpair: module license CDDL taints kernel.
There is a "zfs-fuse" package available in the Fedora repositories and a quick online search appears to show that it can be used to boot a zfs root ( https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/zfs-fuse/Pngazp3mALw). But the solution looks a bit too hackish for my taste.
Here is an explanation of why zfs-fuse package is is allowed in Fedora, but zfs.ko is not: http://warpmech.com/?news=myth-busting-series-zfs-on-linux-has-license-probl...
Btrfs was mentioned as a possibility, but I am a little weary of it. It looks like RHEL is also deprecating it: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/htm...
It looks like there is a possibility that Oracle may someday change the ZFS license: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Oracle-ZFS-2017-Poss...
My intention at the moment is to hold off on doing netboot pt. 5 and maybe revisit the issue if Oracle does update the ZFS license.
Thanks.
That sounds fair to me, Greg. Do you have some ideas for other content you're interested in, whether along the lines of sysadmin solutions or something else?
Paul
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 5:05 PM Gregory Lee Bartholomew gregory.lee.bartholomew@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 2019-01-16 at 21:27 +0000, WordPress wrote:
Adding a note from last week's meeting -- I think the consensus was that ZFS and a custom kernel (we think that's required?) were not something the editors felt we should strongly promote in Fedora, since it means the kernel taint flag is set. Can this be rethought with another compression option?
The kernel does not have to be recompiled, but a module (zfs.ko) does. The module, when loaded, does indeed taint the kernel. Here is the line that displays in my dmesg output:
znvpair: module license CDDL taints kernel.
There is a "zfs-fuse" package available in the Fedora repositories and a quick online search appears to show that it can be used to boot a zfs root ( https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/zfs-fuse/Pngazp3mALw). But the solution looks a bit too hackish for my taste.
Here is an explanation of why zfs-fuse package is is allowed in Fedora, but zfs.ko is not: http://warpmech.com/?news=myth-busting-series-zfs-on-linux-has-license-probl...
Btrfs was mentioned as a possibility, but I am a little weary of it. It looks like RHEL is also deprecating it: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/htm...
It looks like there is a possibility that Oracle may someday change the ZFS license: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Oracle-ZFS-2017-Poss...
My intention at the moment is to hold off on doing netboot pt. 5 and maybe revisit the issue if Oracle does update the ZFS license.
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I was considering a "Netboot a LiveCD" article. It would be a much simpler and shorter guide than the "full enchilada" that I provided in the previous series and it might suffice for some people's use cases.
The howto would basically amount to tweaking the syslinux.cfg file on the downloaded LiveCD to include the "netroot=iscsi:..." parameter and then up loading the modified iso to the iscsi server. Then you can just use iPXE's "sanboot" command to netboot it.
It would mainly be a convenience to sysadmins who wanted a "rescue/installation" netboot option for their workstations. Though it could also be used for a lab that just wanted a very basic readonly OS with a browser. Maybe also to developers who could use an archive of a bunch of older OS's/kernels/browsers for testing.
What do you think?
On Fri, 2019-01-18 at 16:25 -0500, Paul Frields wrote:
That sounds fair to me, Greg. Do you have some ideas for other content you're interested in, whether along the lines of sysadmin solutions or something else?
Paul
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 5:05 PM Gregory Lee Bartholomew gregory.lee.bartholomew@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 2019-01-16 at 21:27 +0000, WordPress wrote:
Adding a note from last week's meeting -- I think the consensus was that ZFS and a custom kernel (we think that's required?) were not something the editors felt we should strongly promote in Fedora, since it means the kernel taint flag is set. Can this be rethought with another compression option?
The kernel does not have to be recompiled, but a module (zfs.ko) does. The module, when loaded, does indeed taint the kernel. Here is the line that displays in my dmesg output:
znvpair: module license CDDL taints kernel.
There is a "zfs-fuse" package available in the Fedora repositories and a quick online search appears to show that it can be used to boot a zfs root ( https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/zfs-fuse/Pngazp3mALw). But the solution looks a bit too hackish for my taste.
Here is an explanation of why zfs-fuse package is is allowed in Fedora, but zfs.ko is not: http://warpmech.com/?news=myth-busting-series-zfs-on-linux-has-license-probl...
Btrfs was mentioned as a possibility, but I am a little weary of it. It looks like RHEL is also deprecating it: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/htm...
It looks like there is a possibility that Oracle may someday change the ZFS license: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Oracle-ZFS-2017-Poss...
My intention at the moment is to hold off on doing netboot pt. 5 and maybe revisit the issue if Oracle does update the ZFS license.
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I like this idea!
Paul
On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 03:39:23PM -0600, Gregory Lee Bartholomew wrote:
I was considering a "Netboot a LiveCD" article. It would be a much simpler and shorter guide than the "full enchilada" that I provided in the previous series and it might suffice for some people's use cases.
The howto would basically amount to tweaking the syslinux.cfg file on the downloaded LiveCD to include the "netroot=iscsi:..." parameter and then up loading the modified iso to the iscsi server. Then you can just use iPXE's "sanboot" command to netboot it.
It would mainly be a convenience to sysadmins who wanted a "rescue/installation" netboot option for their workstations. Though it could also be used for a lab that just wanted a very basic readonly OS with a browser. Maybe also to developers who could use an archive of a bunch of older OS's/kernels/browsers for testing.
What do you think?
On Fri, 2019-01-18 at 16:25 -0500, Paul Frields wrote:
That sounds fair to me, Greg. Do you have some ideas for other content you're interested in, whether along the lines of sysadmin solutions or something else?
Paul
On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 5:05 PM Gregory Lee Bartholomew gregory.lee.bartholomew@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, 2019-01-16 at 21:27 +0000, WordPress wrote:
Adding a note from last week's meeting -- I think the consensus was that ZFS and a custom kernel (we think that's required?) were not something the editors felt we should strongly promote in Fedora, since it means the kernel taint flag is set. Can this be rethought with another compression option?
The kernel does not have to be recompiled, but a module (zfs.ko) does. The module, when loaded, does indeed taint the kernel. Here is the line that displays in my dmesg output:
znvpair: module license CDDL taints kernel.
There is a "zfs-fuse" package available in the Fedora repositories and a quick online search appears to show that it can be used to boot a zfs root ( https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/zfs-fuse/Pngazp3mALw). But the solution looks a bit too hackish for my taste.
Here is an explanation of why zfs-fuse package is is allowed in Fedora, but zfs.ko is not: http://warpmech.com/?news=myth-busting-series-zfs-on-linux-has-license-probl...
Btrfs was mentioned as a possibility, but I am a little weary of it. It looks like RHEL is also deprecating it: https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/htm...
It looks like there is a possibility that Oracle may someday change the ZFS license: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Oracle-ZFS-2017-Poss...
My intention at the moment is to hold off on doing netboot pt. 5 and maybe revisit the issue if Oracle does update the ZFS license.
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