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Fedora Journal?
by Jonathan Roberts 08 Jul '09

08 Jul '09

Hi all, Some people may remember talk a while ago about creating a Fedora Magazine of sorts, news.fp.o is how it was being referred to at the time. The marketing team is wanting to take another stab at this idea, temporarily known fondly as $foobar. The basic idea is that we will create a central location for all project created content, making it easy to schedule stuff and drive traffic to a single location. Examples of material include the interviews that have been run over the past few release cycles, podcasts etc. We'd also like to work with the News team and see about getting Fedora News published at the same location, perhaps taking advantage of shared resources etc. Would the News team be interested in working with us on this, and if so, what sort of functions etc would you like/need, and what do you think the best way forward would be? Would love to hear feedback from people, and hoping we can work together on this in the near future. Kindly, Jon

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Fedora Weekly News 182
by Pascal Calarco 30 Jun '09

30 Jun '09

* 1 Fedora Weekly News Issue 182 o 1.1 Announcements + 1.1.1 Fedora Elections + 1.1.2 Fedora 12 (Constantine) + 1.1.3 Upcoming Events o 1.2 Planet Fedora + 1.2.1 General + 1.2.2 FUDCon o 1.3 Ambassadors + 1.3.1 Release event in Naples + 1.3.2 Get the word out about your F11 event o 1.4 QualityAssurance + 1.4.1 Test Days + 1.4.2 Weekly meetings + 1.4.3 Test Day shepherding SOP draft + 1.4.4 Improvement of debugging procedure pages o 1.5 Artwork + 1.5.1 Theming Constantine o 1.6 Security Advisories + 1.6.1 Fedora 11 Security Advisories + 1.6.2 Fedora 10 Security Advisories + 1.6.3 Fedora 9 Security Advisories o 1.7 Virtualization + 1.7.1 Enterprise Management Tools List # 1.7.1.1 Remote virt-manager VM Wizard + 1.7.2 Fedora Virtualization List # 1.7.2.1 F12 Feature: Host Information # 1.7.2.2 libguestfs Super-minimized Appliance # 1.7.2.3 A guest fish in the pipes + 1.7.3 Libvirt List # 1.7.3.1 Safe PCI Device Passthrough # 1.7.3.2 VMware ESX driver status update - Fedora Weekly News Issue 182 - Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 182[1] for the week ending June 28, 2009. Here are a few highlights from this week's issue. By request, we've returned to including the contents at the top of the issue. Please let us know what you think! Announcements starts us off with updates on recent Fedora elections. Hot on the heels of the release of Fedora 11, the codename for Fedora 12 has already been chosen -- read inside for details. From the Fedora Planet, lots of great updates from the recent FUDCon in Berlin, as well as many updates from Fedora contributors. In Ambassador news, details from the recent Fedora 11 launch party from the NaLUG (Napoli GNU/Linux Users Group). In Quality Assurance news, many updates on Fedora 12 development, including discussion of improving debugging procedure pages, rawhide acceptance plan, bugzapper updates, and much more. Much interesting discussion in the Design beat this week on thinking around themes for Fedora 12 based on the release name. In Security Advisories, we're brought up to date with this week's software patches for Fedora 9, 10 and 11. This week's issue rounds out with updates from virtualization activities, with detail work on a libguestfs 'Super-minimized Appliance', VMWare ESX driver status, and much more! Enjoy! If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see our 'join' page[2]. We welcome reader feedback: fedora-news-list(a)redhat.com FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Adam Williamson 1. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue182 2. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject/Join -- Announcements -- In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project[1] [2] [3]. Contributing Writer: Max Spevack 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/ 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/ 3. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events --- Fedora Elections --- Tom Callaway, Mike McGrath, and Dennis Gilmore were elected to the Fedora Board[1]. Bill Nottingham, Seth Vidal, Kevin Fenzi, Kevin Kofler, and Dennis Gilmore were elected[2] to the Fedora Engineering Steering Committee. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-June/msg00014.html 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-June/msg00015.html --- Fedora 12 (Constantine) --- The code name for Fedora 12 is "Constantine"[1]. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-June/msg00017.html --- Upcoming Events --- Consider attending or volunteering at an event near you! * North America (NA)[1] * Central & South America (LATAM)[2] * Europe, Middle East, and Africa (EMEA)[3] * India, Asia, Australia (India/APJ)[4] 1. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY10_Q2_.28June_2009_-_August_2009.29 2. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY10_Q2_.28June_2009_-_August_2009.29_2 3. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY10_Q2_.28June_2009_-_August_2009.29_3 4. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY10_Q2_.28June_2009_-_August_2009.29_4 -- Planet Fedora -- In this section, we cover the highlights of Planet Fedora[1] - an aggregation of blogs from Fedora contributors worldwide. Contributing Writer: Adam Batkin 1. ↑ http://planet.fedoraproject.org --- General --- Joseph Smidt requested[1] that all Linux distributions report bugs upstream: "Now, assuming each major Linux distribution has hundreds of bugs where the bug triager knows it is an issue with upstream but fails to report it, if all these bugs would get reported I am sure an extra 100 bugs will get fixed over the next six months because of simple things like this." Mel Chua packaged[2] his first RPM, making notes along the way of where documentation was lacking: "I’m actually quite impressed by how simple the process is, and how helpful the resources are - however, my baseline for “easy process!” is “it’s better than several weeks of blindly trying to install Linux for the first time via stacks of floppies in 2001!” so just because it’s “good enough” doesn’t mean it’s as good as it could be. How can we improve this experience?" Jeff Sheltren was interviewed[3] for the FLOSS Weekly podcast. Dan Williams showed off[4] how easy it is to connect to a mobile broadband connection using NetworkManager. In a later post, he described[5] the differences between NetworkManager and ConnMan. John Palmier attended[6] the Open Video Conference[7]. "The web was built and exploded around the concept of open technology. Let’s continue to make sure this is the case going forward. The last thing we want is the web to become the domain of a few, with creativity being stifled by restrictions in the non-open parts of the stack." Adam Jackson explained[8] how computers (try to) identify the capabilities (resolutions, refresh rates, etc...) of monitors by following the EDID standard. And a new partially-compatible standard, DisplayID that is set to replace EDID. Jack Aboutboul announced[9] Project FooBar. While still in the early stages, there are 5 main goals: "Centralization of Content, well scheduled, recurring and prepared content, design which is consistent with the philosophy of the Design team, standardized "official" feeds for distribution of different forms of content, mechanisms for localization and sharing the media with press or on social news sites." Matthew Garrett complained[10] about the lack of openness at Intel. While some parts of the company seem committed to Linux and Open Source, other parts (notably EFI and Poulsbo) don't always integrate as nicely with Linux as some might prefer. Adrian Reber analyzed[11] the Fedora mirror server traffic, for the few days following the Leonidas release. Pretty graphs ensued. Aaron S. Hawley compared[12] cars to software (though he is certainly not the first to do so) by quoting a post that described the ability to take apart, modify and maintain one's own car, despite the fact that when it comes to software, often that ability is missing. Aaron also posted[13] a piece about "How the [IT] culture is hostile to women". See also: FUDCon Attendee Photo[14]. Dave Malcolm wondered[15] where the word "codebase" came from. Joshua Wulf wrote[16] about the challenges involved with "Neologisms and Localization". Is "Parameterized" a word? James Morris described[17] some of the upcoming changes to the security subsystem in kernel 2.6.30. 1. ↑ http://californiaquantum.wordpress.com/2009/06/21/please-report-bugs-upstre… 2. ↑ http://blog.melchua.com/2009/06/21/n00bthoughts-producing-my-first-rpm/ 3. ↑ http://sheltren.com/flossweekly 4. ↑ http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2009/06/22/mobile-broadband-assistant-makes-it-… 5. ↑ http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2009/06/25/networkmanager-and-connman/ 6. ↑ http://www.j5live.com/2009/06/22/open-video-conference-an-amazing-step-forw… 7. ↑ http://openvideoconference.org/ 8. ↑ http://ajaxxx.livejournal.com/61607.html 9. ↑ http://jaboutboul.blogspot.com/2009/06/fedora-marketing-tng-project-foobar.… 10. ↑ http://mjg59.livejournal.com/111853.html 11. ↑ http://lisas.de/~adrian/?p=548 12. ↑ http://aaronhawley.livejournal.com/24759.html 13. ↑ http://aaronhawley.livejournal.com/25025.html 14. ↑ http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2009/06/we-are-fedora.html 15. ↑ http://dmalcolm.livejournal.com/3271.html 16. ↑ http://fossdocs.wordpress.com/2009/06/25/neologisms-and-localization/ 17. ↑ http://james-morris.livejournal.com/42541.html --- FUDCon --- Here are a few randomly selected posts (that mostly contain nice photos) from FUDCon/LinuxTag in Berlin: * http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2009/06/fudcon-1-morning.html * http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2009/06/linuxtag-and-linuxnacht.html * http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2009/06/fun-time-waiting-for-fudcon.html * http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/2009/06/fudcon-day-1-fudpub.html * http://mairin.wordpress.com/2009/06/25/fudcon-berlin-day-1/ * http://mairin.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/fudcon-day-1/ * http://spevack.livejournal.com/85023.html * http://diegobz.net/2009/06/27/fisl-2-day/ -- Ambassadors -- In this section, we cover Fedora Ambassadors Project[1]. Contributing Writer: Larry Cafiero 1. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --- Release event in Naples --- Gianluca Varisco reports on a Fedora 11 release event in Naples, Italy, recently. NaLUG (Napoli GNU/Linux Users Group) organized, in collaboration with UDU Parthenope (Unione degli Universitari), the Fedora 11 Release Party. The location was simply perfect: a building property of Parthenope’s University, located in the hearth of Naples. For more on the event, visit http://www.techtemple.org/2009/06/26/fedora-11-release-party-in-naples-ital… --- Get the word out about your F11 event --- Fedora 11 was released on Tuesday, June 9, and with it a variety of activities around the release will be forthcoming. As such, with the upcoming release of Fedora 11, this is a reminder that posting your event on Fedora Weekly News can help get the word out. Contact FWN Ambassador correspondent Larry Cafiero at lcafiero-AT-fedoraproject-DOT-org with announcements of upcoming events -- and don't forget to e-mail reports after the events as well. -- QualityAssurance -- In this section, we cover the activities of the QA team[1]. Contributing Writer: Adam Williamson 1. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA --- Test Days --- There was no Test Day last week. Currently, no Test Day is scheduled for next week - it is still very early in the Fedora 12 cycle. If you would like to propose a test day which could result in changes for post-release updates for Fedora 11, or an early test day for Fedora 12, please contact the QA team via email or IRC, or file a ticket in QA Trac[1]. 1. ↑ https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ --- Weekly meetings --- The QA group weekly meeting[1] was held on 2009-06-24. The full log is available[2]. James Laska reported that he had not yet been able to update the QA Goals page[3], due to lack of time. Will Woods provided an update on the Rawhide acceptance test plan. The plan is now available on the Wiki[4], with ten suggested test cases. Tickets have been filed to track the creation of each test case. He asked for anyone who was interested in this project to help write or review the test cases. Jóhann Guðmundsson suggested adding a test case for basic network functionality, and the others present agreed with this suggestion. James Laska reviewed the new schedule for Fedora 12 QA events which has been submitted by John Poelstra[5]. He pointed out several changes he felt were positive. The group discussed whether Test Day dates should be added to the main QA schedule, but in the end decided they should not be. Will Woods gave a quick further update on the status of AutoQA (which includes the rawhide acceptance testing discussed earlier). He explained that, once the test plans were written, it should be relatively easy to automate them via autotest, and automation of some tests should be complete in one or two weeks. James Laska noted that Jesse Keating had sent a link to a presentation he would be giving on AutoQA[6], and asked for feedback to be sent to the list. Finally, Jóhann Guðmundsson proposed a project to improve the quality and quantity of information contained in bug reports[7]. Will Woods noted that abrt[8], the automated bug reporting tool, will allow the use of plugins to configure what files or other information should be attached to reports from particular components. The Bugzappers group weekly meeting[9] was held on 2009-06-23. The full log is available[10]. The meeting was dominated by a discussion of the status of the project to integrate anaconda triage better into the BugZappers process, and to introduce kernel triage. Andy Lindeberg and Peter Jones provided valuable information on the anaconda process. After much discussion, it was broadly agreed that there was no broad incompatibility between the anaconda bug process and the BugZappers process, and with a small amount of work, the two could be integrated: a good list of required information for anaconda bug reports should be created, it should be made clear that anaconda reports must be assigned to a specific anaconda maintainer and this assignment confirmed in person via IRC or email before being made, and volunteers to triage anaconda should already be well versed in its workings, or receive some training before beginning to triage actively. The next QA weekly meeting will be held on 2009-06-31 at 1600 UTC in #fedora-meeting, and the next Bugzappers weekly meeting on 2009-06-30 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting. 1. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings 2. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20090624 3. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Goals 4. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Rawhide_Acceptance_Test_Plan 5. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-June/msg00507.html 6. ↑ http://jkeating.fedorapeople.org/presentations/automatedqa.odp<ref>. [[User:Jlaska|James Laska]] reported in place of [[User:Adamwill|Adam Williamson]] (who was absent) on his proposal to introduce an SOP for running a Test Day. He referred to Adam's mailing list post<ref>http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-June/msg00662.html</li> <li id="cite_note-39">[[#cite_ref-39|↑]] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/QA/Improve_reporting</li> <li id="cite_note-40">[[#cite_ref-40|↑]] https://fedorahosted.org/abrt/wiki</li> <li id="cite_note-41">[[#cite_ref-41|↑]] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings</li> <li id="cite_note-42">[[#cite_ref-42|↑]] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2009-Jun-23</li></ol></ref> --- Test Day shepherding SOP draft --- Adam Williamson announced[1] a draft SOP for the process of running a Test Day[2], with the intent of making it easier for more people to run Test Day events. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-June/msg00662.html 2. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adamwill/Draft_test_day_SOP --- Improvement of debugging procedure pages --- The recap mail for the QA meeting provoked a thread[1]about the best way to improve the quality of information contained in bug reports. Eventually, several members of the group decided to improve existing pages explaining how to accurately identify and categorize bugs, and what information to include when reporting them, for various components. Work started with the page on X.org[2]. François Cami made some initial improvements[3], Christopher Beland followed these up with some further tweaks and suggestions[4], and Adam Williamson contributed some further additions and addressed Christopher's suggestions. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-June/msg00676.html 2. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Xorg/Debugging 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-June/msg00693.html 4. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-June/msg00698.html -- Artwork -- In this section, we cover the Fedora Design Team[1]. Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei 1. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork --- Theming Constantine --- From FUDCon, after the announcement of the release name for Fedora 12 Nicu Buculei launchedref[1] the talks about the graphic theme of the next release "I am sure you are all already aware, the announcement is official since yesterday when Paul delivered in in front of the FUDCon audience, the release name for Fedora 12 was voted Constantine". He also proposed a possible approach: Byzantine mosaics "When I think about it, I had in my mind Byzantine culture (Roman emperor Constantine the Great) and I think a graphic in the style of a Byzantine mosaic can be an effective approach. The major trick is to leave out any religious implications and stay only with cultural references." Joost Elfering invited[2] everyone to think at the big picture "I think we need to take a step back before coming up with results and examples. i suggest we first take a look at the associations with Constantine. these associations will be the bases for out new style. so no examples, just conceptual works" and showed concerns about the religious implications "this theme is really heavily based on religion on it's own. We will probably have some angry faces just because of the name. keeping out religion on this one will be really hard!", concerns shared[3] also by Konstantinos Antonakoglou "You can't expect any work of art without a religious reference" who proposed a simple take on that "So, to keep it simple I sense that we should say: 'Hey! Byzantine art used the mosaic art! Let's use it too.'" Henrik Heigl chimed-in[4] with his own concerns about aggressiveness "The Lion has a bit of an aggressive meaning, Constantine is en emperor (also a bit aggressive) do we want the same way or make something smoother?" and added another couple of ideas to the brainstorming "I also had the Logo of my old University" and "Also I had the the "Lion" we had in Fedora11 in my head and now maybe another animal", with the animal idea ruled-out[5] quickly by Nicu "We can't go with another animal (no, not even a panda :D), that would be to close to the previous release." 1. ↑ http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000277.html 2. ↑ http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000278.html 3. ↑ http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000281.html 4. ↑ http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000282.html 5. ↑ http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000285.html -- Security Advisories -- In this section, we cover Security Advisories from fedora-package-announce. https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-package-announce Contributing Writer: David Nalley --- Fedora 11 Security Advisories --- * git-1.6.2.5-1.fc11 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-June/msg01056.… * kernel-2.6.29.5-191.fc11 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-June/msg01094.… * rt3-3.8.2-8.fc11 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-June/msg01167.… * apr-util-1.3.7-1.fc11 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-June/msg01201.… * pam_krb5-2.3.5-1.fc11 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-June/msg01288.… * rb_libtorrent-0.14.3-2.fc11 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-June/msg01302.… --- Fedora 10 Security Advisories --- * kernel-2.6.27.25-170.2.72.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-June/msg01048.… * git-1.6.0.6-4.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-June/msg01126.… * rt3-3.8.2-8.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-June/msg01134.… * apr-util-1.3.7-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-June/msg01228.… * pam_krb5-2.3.5-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-June/msg01265.… * poppler-0.8.7-6.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-June/msg01277.… * rb_libtorrent-0.13.1-5.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-June/msg01297.… * deluge-1.1.9-1.fc10 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-June/msg01300.… --- Fedora 9 Security Advisories --- Fedora 9 is nearing EOL Per FESCo support for Fedora 9 will be discontinued on July 10th 2009 https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-June/msg00009.html * git-1.6.0.6-4.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-June/msg01045.… * apr-util-1.2.12-7.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-June/msg01173.… * kernel-2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-June/msg01193.… * poppler-0.8.7-2.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-June/msg01291.… * rb_libtorrent-0.12.1-2.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-June/msg01301.… * deluge-0.5.9.3-2.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-June/msg01326.… * pam_krb5-2.3.5-1.fc9 - https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-package-announce/2009-June/msg01354.… -- Virtualization -- In this section, we cover discussion of Fedora virtualization technologies on the @et-mgmnt-tools-list, @fedora-xen-list, @libvirt-list and @ovirt-devel-list lists. Contributing Writer: Dale Bewley --- Enterprise Management Tools List --- This section contains the discussion happening on the et-mgmt-tools list ---- Remote virt-manager VM Wizard ---- Craig Miskell was[1] "running image:Echo-package-16px.pngvirt-manager 0.7.0 on Ubuntu, connecting using SSH to [a remote] image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibvirt running on Debian Lenny Xen-3.2.1", and when attempting to create a new guest found "no install options are available because:" * "Network install" is not available unless the connection is local, and * Local install media and Network boot (PXE) are not available because of the following line in create.py (around line 340): is_pv = (self.capsguest.os_type == "xen") Cole Robinson pointed out the latter has been fixed upstream, and explained the former fails "Because a network install has to fetch a boot kernel and initrd from the URL, and we have no way to tell the remote machine to fetch these locations." 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/et-mgmt-tools/2009-June/msg00072.html --- Fedora Virtualization List --- This section contains the discussion happening on the fedora-virt list. ---- F12 Feature: Host Information ---- Richard Jones posted[1] an RFC for a feature[2] he's working on for Fedora 12. The feature will "Allow a virtual machine to see information and statistics from the host operating system." For example, it will "Allow a virtual machine to look at host information (such as number of physical, not just virtual CPUs), and statistics like the load on the host." Daniel Berrange noted[3] that "a core goal of this hostinfo service is to avoid any use of networking. We don't want to presume that a guest has a NIC, nor that the host has a configured NIC on the same LAN as the guest." So this feature will make use of serial ports to pass queries and responses between the guest and the host. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-June/msg00123.html 2. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Hostinfo 3. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-June/msg00130.html ---- libguestfs Super-minimized Appliance ---- Richard Jones created[1] a set of "very experimental" patches to image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibguestfs "which allow you to build a so-called 'supermin (super-minimized) appliance'." Within libguestfs, "The normal appliance is a self-contained Linux operating system, based on the Fedora/RHEL/CentOS Linux distro. So it contains a complete copy of all the libraries and programs needed, like kernel, libc, bash, coreutils etc etc." "The supermin appliance removes the kernel and all the executable libraries and programs from the appliance. That just leaves a skeleton of config files and some data files, which is obviously massively smaller than the normal appliance. At runtime we rebuild the appliance on-the-fly from the libraries and programs on the host (eg. pulling in the real /lib/libc.so, the real /bin/bash etc.)" "The new appliance is a mere 500K, so libguestfs RPMs will be a lot smaller. Of course that just means they will have many more dependencies, so the amount pulled down will be the same or greater." 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-June/msg00118.html ---- A guest fish in the pipes ---- Richard Jones patched[1] image:Echo-package-16px.pngguestfish. "This patch adds support for pipes to guestfish, so you can pipe output from a guestfish command through a command on the host. The canonical example is: <fs> hexdump /bin/ls | less Another example, looking for root backdoors in the password file: <fs> cat /etc/passwd | awk -F: '$3 == 0 { print }' | grep -v ^root: Anything right of the first pipe symbol gets passed to the local shell, thus expansion, redirection and so on work on that." 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-virt/2009-June/msg00177.html --- Libvirt List --- This section contains the discussion happening on the libvir-list. ---- Safe PCI Device Passthrough ---- Mirko Raasch asked[1] "How can i start my guest with three pci devices passed through and image:Echo-package-16px.pnglibvirt?" Starting qemu by hand appeared to work. But virsh start produced an error: libvirtd: 15:44:55.459: warning : pciTrySecondaryBusReset:483 : Other devices on bus with 0000:05:01.0, not doing bus reset Daniel Berrange recalled[2] "what libvirt is complaining about is that there are other devices in the PCI bus which are not associated with this guest, and thus there is no way to safely reset the device you are trying to assign, without endangering the host OS or other guest OS." Adding "when you launch QEMU manually there is no checking for whether the PCI devices are in use by other guests, or by the host OS. So while it may launch QEMU, it is not running safely, and eg, if your guest OS does a PCI bus reset it could kill/harm your host OS." PCI device passthrough is a new feature[3] in Fedora 11. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-June/msg00516.html 2. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-June/msg00518.html 3. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/KVM_PCI_Device_Assignment ---- VMware ESX driver status update ---- Matthias Bolte continued[1] work (FWN #177[2]) to create a VMware ESX driver for libvirt. Matthias is currently "working on the VMX config to domain XML mapping for dump/create XML" using the VMware Infrastructure API[3]. 1. ↑ http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2009-June/msg00469.html 2. ↑ http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue177#Libvirt_VMWare_ESX_Driver_In_Dev… 3. ↑ http://www.vmware.com/support/developer/vc-sdk/visdk25pubs/ReferenceGuide/ -- end FWN 182 -- Pascal Calarco, Fedora Ambassador, Indiana, USA http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pcalarco

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Ambassadors beat is done
by Larry Cafiero 29 Jun '09

29 Jun '09

Ambassadors is short, but finished. Larry

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Ambassadors to come before sunrise
by Larry Cafiero 28 Jun '09

28 Jun '09

Pascal -- Ambassadors is being written now and will appear before sunrise on Monday. Larry Cafiero

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Translation Beat not happening this week
by Runa Bhattacharjee 28 Jun '09

28 Jun '09

Hello, The translation beat is not happening this week and would be back again next week. Apologies for the extremely last minute notice. regards Runa

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announcements
by Max Spevack 28 Jun '09

28 Jun '09

a very short announcements beat is complete.

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qa beat in for 182
by Adam Williamson 26 Jun '09

26 Jun '09

qa beat is in for 182. that was a pain in the ass to write! i'll try and be around to do a bit of editing over the weekend. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net

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Fedora Weekly News 181
by Pascal Calarco 23 Jun '09

23 Jun '09

Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 181[1] for the week ending June 21, 2009. Here are a few highlights from this week's issue. Announcements starts us off with a reminder that Fedora 9 end-of-life is July 10, and an update from the Fonts SIG, including many Fedora 11 items, along with coverage of the Fedora Activity Day recently held. From the Fedora Planet, details on a new Fedora Community Portal that opened to much excitement. The QA beat turns its sights to Fedora 12, with details on schedule, installer and rawhide testing plans. In Fedora Ambassador, news on the SouthEast Linux Fest last week in Clemson, SC. Translation news brings us word of many new members to the localization project, and translation updates for Fedora web for Dutch and Hebrew. The Artwork & Design beat completes the issue with coverage of discussion on Fedora 12 theming. If you are interested in contributing to Fedora Weekly News, please see our 'join' page[2]. We welcome reader feedback: fedora-news-list(a)redhat.com FWN Editorial Team: Pascal Calarco, Adam Williamson 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue181 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/NewsProject/Join -- Announcements -- In this section, we cover announcements from the Fedora Project[1] [2] [3]. Contributing Writer: Max Spevack 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/ 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/ 3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events --- Fedora 9 (Sulphur) --- The end-of-life for Fedora 9 has been set for Friday, July 10.[1] After this date, no builds will be allowed in Koji, and no further updates will be pushed. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-June/msg00009.html --- Fonts Special Interest Group --- Nicolas Mailhot[1] posted a fantastic status report[2] about all of the recent happenings in the Fonts SIG[3]. Some of the Fedora 11-related highlights include automatic font installation[4] courtesy of PackageKit, as well as updates to the fonts packaging guidelines, and re-packaging of many fonts as a result. 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Nim 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-June/msg00010.html 3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Fonts_SIG 4. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/AutomaticFontInstallation --- FUDCons and FADs --- This section previews upcoming Fedora Users & Developers Conferences, as well as upcoming Fedora Activity Days. -- FUDCon Porto Alegre 2009 FUDCon Porto Alegre[1] will take place June 24-27 in Brazil. About 35 people have signed up so far. If you would like more information, please visit the wiki page. 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:LATAM_2009 --- FUDCon Berlin 2009 --- FUDCon Berlin[1] will be held from June 26-28, and we're got almost 150 people pre-registered for the event. If you would like more information, please visit the wiki page. If you have not yet acquired your e-ticket, find instructions here.[2] --- Fedora Activity Day Fedora Development Cycle 2009 --- A Fedora Activity Day (FAD) was held June 8-10 at Red Hat's campus in Raleigh, NC to refine the development cycle for the coming year. More detail and discussion logs are available[3] 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Berlin_2009 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-announce-list/2009-June/msg00012.html 3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_Fedora_Development_Cycle… --- Upcoming Events --- Consider attending or volunteering at an event near you! * North America (NA)[1] * Central & South America (LATAM)[2] * Europe, Middle East, and Africa (EMEA)[3] * India, Asia, Australia (India/APJ)[4] 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY10_Q2_.28June_2009_-_August_2009.29 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY10_Q2_.28June_2009_-_August_2009.29_2 3. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY10_Q2_.28June_2009_-_August_2009.29_3 4. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY10_Q2_.28June_2009_-_August_2009.29_4 -- Planet Fedora -- In this section, we cover the highlights of Planet Fedora[1] - an aggregation of blogs from Fedora contributors worldwide. Contributing Writer: Adam Batkin 1. http://planet.fedoraproject.org --- Community Portal --- The new Fedora Community Portal[1] has been opened! A number of Planet bloggers have posted[2][3][4] about this with great excitement. No more paintain[5]! 1. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/community/ 2. http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2009/06/11/fedora-11-is-out1111/ 3. http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=2545 4. http://mairin.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/no-more-paintain/ 5. http://mairin.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/what-does-paintain-mean/ --- General --- Chitlesh Goorah explained[1] how to use the newly-packaged MinGW cross-compiler suite in Fedora 11, by cross-compiling gerbv for Windows. Daniel Walsh answered[2] the question "What Happened to setroubleshoot?" in Fedora 11 and provided a preview of some sealert changes planned for Fedora 12. In another post, he added[3] some information about the differences between running a daemon directly versus with an init script, and how that can cause permissions problems with SELinux. Greg DeKoenigsberg described[4] some of what he has been up to recently, an "attempt to change the way that computer science education works." James "Ben" Williams wondered[5] what will become of Fedora installation CDs. Robert 'Bob' Jensen also chimed[6] too. For those of interested, see the F12 Feature Proposal[7]. Peter Hutterer posted[8] Part 3 in the series on XI2 Recipies, this time with code snippets for gathering information about X Input devices. Jeremy Katz requested[9] that people help test isohybrid a new tool that "lets you take an ISO image, post-process it and then be able to either burn the ISO to a CD or write it to a USB stick with dd". Karsten Wade suggested[10] that there should exist some sort of "rpm2all" tool that could take an RPM file and automatically build installable releases for any distribution. Josh Boyer mentioned[11] the fact that for F13, PPC will no longer be a primary architecture, and there are a number of tasks to be done in order to make the transition as smooth as possible. Those interested should join the PowerPC SIG. Michael DeHaan offered[12] to personally help people get started with hacking on Cobbler. "If you are interested in datacenter automation around Cobbler, from July 6th to July 10th, I’m going to offering myself up to teach folks how to hack on the Cobbler project." 1. http://clunixchit.blogspot.com/2009/06/using-fedoras-windows-cross-compiler… 2. http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/28828.html 3. http://danwalsh.livejournal.com/29041.html 4. http://gregdek.livejournal.com/51300.html 5. http://jbwillia.wordpress.com/2009/06/16/time-to-address-the-needs-of-the-c… 6. http://blogs.fedoraunity.org/bobjensen/2009/06/16/the-downfall-of-modern-ci….. 7. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_No_Split_CDs_Proposal 8. http://who-t.blogspot.com/2009/06/xi2-recipes-part-3.html 9. http://velohacker.com/fedora-notes/a-request-for-some-simple-testing/ 10. http://iquaid.org/2009/06/18/i-want-an-rpm2all-tool/ 11. http://jwboyer.livejournal.com/33999.html 12. http://michaeldehaan.net/2009/06/20/learn-to-hack-on-cobbler-week-july-6th-… -- QualityAssurance -- In this section, we cover the activities of the QA team[1]. Contributing Writer: Adam Williamson 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA --- Test Days --- There was no Test Day last week, as we finally released Fedora 11. Currently, no Test Day is scheduled for next week - it is still very early in the Fedora 12 cycle. If you would like to propose a test day which could result in changes for post-release updates for Fedora 11, or an early test day for Fedora 12, please contact the QA team via email or IRC, or file a ticket in QA Trac[1]. 1. https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-qa/ --- Weekly meetings --- The QA group weekly meeting[1] was held on 2009-06-17. The full log is available[2]. Adam Williamson reported that he had added a suggested draft for the previously agreed change to the minimum hardware requirements to an existing bug report[3]. James Laska reported on the Fedora 11 retrospective meeting which had taken place the previous day, and which he, Adam Williamson, Jesse Keating and Edward Kirk had attended to represent the QA and BugZappers groups. All agreed that the meeting had been well-run and productive. Jesse pointed out that the real test of its success would be if any of the items discussed had led to actual changes within the next month or two. James promised to update the QA team's Goals page[4] to incorporate the lessons learned from the Fedora 11 release cycle. The group discussed whether some kind of voice format for the meeting would be better than IRC, but in the end there was wide agreement that it would not be. James Laska mentioned that the period for open feedback on proposals stemming from the earlier Fedora Development Cycle Activity Day[5] was nearing an end: feedback on these proposals will be accepted up to June 30th. The proposals can be found in an email from Jesse Keating[6]. Anyone interested is encouraged to read the proposals and provide feedback. Will Woods reported on progress of the AutoQA project. He noted that one of the FAD proposals, israwhidebroken.com[7], is essentially an AutoQA project, and so he has established it as the first AutoQA milestone, with a set of tickets[8]. He noted that Jesse Keating is working on packaging autotest[9], which will be the harness used to create the automated tests for this project. Jesse pointed out that autotest required Google Web Toolkit, which is not yet packaged either, so packaging autotest is a big project, but he was confident that he will be successful. The Bugzappers group weekly meeting[10] was held on 2009-06-16. The full log is available[11]. Adam Williamson reported that Brennan Ashton is working on having a components page as part of the triage metrics system[12]. Edward Kirk reported on his attempts to find out how the critical component list was generated so it can be accurately updated. He later spoke with Jon Stanley and Jesse Keating and was advised to use the critical path packages proposal[13] to help re-generate the list. He will report further next week. Adam Williamson reported on the progress of the kernel triage project. He had sent an email to all interested parties, asking the kernel team to provide information on the current workflow used for kernel bugs, but had not yet received a reply, so this project is currently waiting on that important information from the kernel team. Adam Williamson also reported on a request received from the EPEL team[14] for some help with a Bug Day they have planned for July 11th[15]. Kevin Fenzi, who is part of the EPEL project, provided some explanations: a copy of RHEL is not required to help, Bugzappers could help with only a CentOS box, or even just Fedora in some cases. Help asked of the Bugzappers team is mostly in typical Bugzappers tasks of triaging and pinging dormant bugs for further information. The EPEL project follows the Fedora bug workflow. The group agreed that they would be happy to help out with the Bug Day, and asked the EPEL project to provide more information closer to the date. The next QA weekly meeting will be held on 2009-06-24 at 1600 UTC in #fedora-meeting, and the next Bugzappers weekly meeting on 2009-06-23 at 1500 UTC in #fedora-meeting. 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20090617 3. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=499585 4. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Goals 5. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Activity_Day_Fedora_Development_Cycle_… 6. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-June/msg00385.html 7. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Israwhidebroken.com_Proposal 8. http://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/milestone/israwhidebroken.com 9. http://autotest.kernel.org/ 10. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings 11. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2009-Jun-16 12. http://publictest14.fedoraproject.org/triageweb/ 13. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Critical_Path_Packages_Proposal 14. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL 15. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/EPEL_Bug_Day_July_2009 --- Improved and more detailed QA / Release Engineering scheduling for Fedora 12 --- John Poelstra announced[1] that he had worked on a draft for an improved and more detailed schedule for release engineering tasks for Fedora 12, which also affects QA. He suggested that "we should move to more of a standard software model (just as we did with the naming of the schedule, etc.) where there is more separation between Releng and QA. IOW, Releng provides the service of packing the bits and composing an installable distro and QA provides the service of testing them and giving a thumbs up/down on them", and asked "What tweaks should I make to better reflect QA's needs?" The proposed schedule has blocker bug reviews happening the Friday before key freezes, exact dates for release engineering composes, and exact dates for compose testing. James Laska replied[2] with broad support for each of the proposals. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-June/msg00507.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-June/msg00513.html --- Installer test plan --- Liam Li announced[1] a test plan for installation for Fedora 12[2], and asked for feedback. James Laska replied[3], noting that he had made some minor changes to the Wiki page, and providing some comments on the plan. He pointed out that it may be a good idea to consider the yum install cleanup feature[4] in the plan, and suggested only listing the test priority order once. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-June/msg00529.html 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/TestPlans/Fedora12Install 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-June/msg00538.html 4. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Features/YuminstallCleanup --- Rawhide acceptance test plan --- Will Woods announced[1] the creation of a Rawhide acceptance test plan[2], which is part of the israwhidebroken.com proposal discussed during the weekly meeting (see above). This outlines the overall set of features which should be tested to determine if Rawhide is currently in a usable state or not. Jóhann Guðmundsson suggested[3] a test for whether a basic wired network connection could be established. Adam Williamson suggested[4] a test for whether basic input (keyboard and mouse) are working. Tom London suggested[5] a test for encrypted root filesystems, but Will explained[6] that this was beyond the scope of basic functionality testing. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-June/msg00547.html 2. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Rawhide_Acceptance_Test_Plan 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-June/msg00552.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-June/msg00549.html 5. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-June/msg00565.html 6. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-June/msg00566.html -- Ambassadors -- In this section, we cover Fedora Ambassadors Project[1]. Contributing Writer: Larry Cafiero 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors --- Fedora at SELF --- Fedora was on hand in a big way at the SouthEast LinuxFest (SELF) last weekend in Clemson, S.C. Over 500 people attended the inaugural event, which instantly put itself on the national Linux fest map. Fedora project leader Paul Frields gave one of the keynotes at the fest, and the Fedora booth rolled out not only Fedora 11, but also some new swag, including case badges and tattoos, which were a hit. A Fedora Activity Day which covered a wide variety of topics was also held on Sunday. More on the event at http://jbwillia.wordpress.com/2009/06/15/self-2009/ and at http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=2562 --- Fedora 11 released --- Fedora 11 was released on Tuesday, June 9, and with it a variety of activities around the release will be forthcoming. As such, with the upcoming release of Fedora 11, this is a reminder that posting your event on Fedora Weekly News can help get the word out. Contact FWN Ambassador correspondent Larry Cafiero at lcafiero-AT-fedoraproject-DOT-org with announcements of upcoming events -- and don't forget to e-mail reports after the events as well. -- Translation -- This section covers the news surrounding the Fedora Translation (L10n) Project[1]. Contributing Writer: Runa Bhattacharjee 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N --- FLP Meeting Postponed --- The FLP meeting called for the 18th of June[1] was postponed[2] due to a lack of responses and consensus on the meeting time. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-June/msg00110.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-June/msg00131.html --- F11 Translations for Fedora-Web updated for Dutch and Hebrew --- Alerted[1] by Richard van der Luit about missing Dutch translations for Fedora-Web, Ricky Zhou enabled Dutch and the newly added Hebrew translations. He also reminded[2] that for new translations to be added to Fedora-web modules, the translators have to send a message to the web team to allow them to make necessary configuration changes. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-June/msg00121.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-June/msg00124.html --- New members in FLP --- Renaud Estampe[1] (French), Dušan Hokův[2] (Czech), Giovanni Cucca[3] (Italian), Javier Fernandez[4] (Spanish), Nebojsa Kamber[5] (Serbian) and Michael Wojdyr[6] (German, Polish) joined the Fedora Translation Project last week. 1. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-June/msg00133.html 2. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-June/msg00130.html 3. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-June/msg00117.html 4. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-June/msg00114.html 5. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-June/msg00115.html 6. http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-trans-list/2009-June/msg00111.html -- Artwork -- In this section, we cover the Fedora Design Team[1]. Contributing Writer: Nicu Buculei 1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork --- Looking Forward to Fedora 12 --- After Thomas Kole asked[1] about what is the Fedora 12 theme "I really want to create a wallpaper for f12, but what is the theme?" and Nicu Buculei pointed[2] it will be announced in approximatively one week "I believe the result is expected to be announced next week at FUDCon", Martin Sourada started the debate[3] about tht process for to be used"what's the theming process for F12?" and provided a first sketch "1. sketching the base concepts[...] 2. get initial approach wallpapers into Alpha[...] 3. have most of the artwork covered by Beta[...] 4. polish for RCs and Final". Nicu further outlined[4] the tight schedule "According to the schedule, we have Alpha freeze on 2009-08-04 and Alpha release on 2009-08-18", Martin mentioned[5] some past problems to avoid "First of all we need to make clear it's not competition, but we still need more than one designs" and Máirín Duffy advanced[6] a possible different approach "I wonder if we could take an approach instead of creating the base image from scratch this time, to go out and search the best of openly-licensed content and try to provide a thematic selection?", which was disliked[7] by Nicu "is like us dropping the ball and acknowledging we are not able to create ourselves something good enough", Martin[8] and Samuele Storari[9] "I hope we will not stop create, and, I think we may work again in the contest mode", but also Martin noticed[10] how the old process has put a lot unreasonable stress on Máirín's shoulders "One of the things I remember from the past releases are your all-nighters that saved us from disasters, especially considering you are doing it in your spare time..." After a few more rounds of debate, Máirín Duffy proposed[11] a plan: "I think I really like the requirement that the default be: original, vector, abstract, theme-related. And that we pick, let's say as originally proposed, 4 works from the creative commons / openly-licensed community that are related to the theme as well and have the following breakdown: 2 general appeal / any age group, 1 appeal to children, 1 appeal to women" which was positively received, with a possible addition by Nicu Buculei[12] "- a larger "extras" package (but not very large) yummable from the repository and *maybe* also on the install DVD; a huge gallery with *everything* available online, where people can browse with Firefox and use it's "set image as desktop background" option." Once the process is defined, it will be widely publicised so the larger community can take part into it "process announced in Fedora Weekly news & Fedora Forum; process announced on Planet fpo; each phase of the process announced in FWN & on Planet FPO & Fedora Forum; maybe some kind of podcast, www.fpo banner, some kinds of publicity that way to get people involved." 1. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000205.html 2. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000210.html 3. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000206.html 4. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000211.html 5. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000215.html 6. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000218.html 7. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000228.html 8. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000244.html 9. http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/2009-June/000229.html --- end FWN 181 ---

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Ambassadors is done
by Larry Cafiero 22 Jun '09

22 Jun '09

Ambassadors is done. Whew. Larry Cafiero

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qa beat done
by Adam Williamson 21 Jun '09

21 Jun '09

I had the qa beat up two days ago but forgot to mail the list - sorry. I'm having a busy weekend (flying to the UK tonight) so I won't be able to do any editorial stuff, I'm afraid. thanks! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net

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