olpc July 2008

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Release tarballs for OLPC software?
by Robin Norwood 04 Aug '08

04 Aug '08

Hi, So after working on this list: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/WishList#Easy It turns out there simply aren't tarball releases easily available for some of the packages (I noted the ones I couldn't find above). I talked to Scott, and he says: """ You can download tarballs directly from our gitweb instance with a URL like: http://dev.laptop.org/git?p=users/cscott/olpc-contents;a=snapshot;h=olpccon… ...but the aforementioned git issue with submodules means you'd need two source lines, one for the main git module and one for the submodule. Hrm. I can make sure the submodule uses the same tag as the parent, so both of the source lines can be constant (using the %{version} macro)... Maybe I should just suck it up and post tarballs somewhere. """ So, my question is, do we need to ask Scott to put tarballs online somewhere for these packages, or can the SRPMS at http://xs-dev.laptop.org/~cscott/repos/joyride/ count as the upstream sources, since they contain the tarballs we'd build from anyway? Does anyone know the answer to this? Thanks, -RN -- Robin Norwood Red Hat, Inc. "The Sage does nothing, yet nothing remains undone." -Lao Tzu, Te Tao Ching

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[Fedora-olpc-list] Looking for Testers: Sugar Appliance
by Bryan Kearney 01 Aug '08

01 Aug '08

I have put together a sugar desktop appliance [1], but I am not very familiar with the sugar desktop in order to adequately test it. I am looking for anyone who is willing to take a few minutes and give it a spin. The directions for xen/kvm are: 1) Download [1] 2) Untar and unzip it 3) run virt-image sugar.xml 4) At the fedora login, select "Autologin" You are good to go. If you would like to build it yourself, you can get build this with the appliance creator [2] using the kickstart file [3]. -- bk [1] http://sugar.s3.amazonaws.com/sugarAppliance.tar.gz [2] http://www.thincrust.net/tooling.html [3] http://sugar.s3.amazonaws.com/sugar.ks

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Pungi and a text-only F9 installer for XS
by Martin Langhoff 30 Jul '08

30 Jul '08

On the F9 track, I have been playing around a bit with Pungi as a robust - and better fitting - install composer. It has several advantages over livecd-tools. A minor problem is that it's impossible at the moment to build a F9 install CD without bringing in X.org server, Cairo and a good chunk of gnome. See http://marc.info/?l=fedora-buildsys-list&m=121740313820597&w=2 A "textonly" splitoff of anaconda and anaconda runtime that drop the X dependencies would shed ~200 MB of dependencies, and make F9 a better fit for embedded deployments, making the XS image smaller and nicer along the way... hint, hint... :-) Another interesting track is making the "CD installer" work from a usb stick, modding livecd-iso-to-disk, see http://marc.info/?l=fedora-buildsys-list&m=121740508223325&w=2 The XS image doesn't have strict dietary requirements as the XO image, but my aim is to fit in one CD and/or as small a USB disk as possible. Content packages will definitely take up the slack :-) cheers, martin -- martin.langhoff(a)gmail.com martin(a)laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff

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[Fedora-olpc-list] Intro
by Gavin Romig-Koch 30 Jul '08

30 Jul '08

Hello, my name is gavin. I am an engineer at Red Hat in support. My background is as a contributer to gcc, g++, glibc, and gdb. I've some experience with Python. I've played with Squeak and EToys for years, though not done anything significant with them. My children and I have two XO's that we play with. I would be interested in seeing/doing/helping Squeak and EToys get packaged up for Fedora. And would be willing to take on whatever other scutt work needs doing. I'm not sure what to do about the Squeak licenceing issue. Has anyone from Fedora contacted VPRI about this? -gavin...

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Progress on packaging list
by Robin Norwood 30 Jul '08

30 Jul '08

Hi, I spent some time today making progress on the packaging list at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/WishList#Easy I filed some package review requests and linked to the bugs. There were some packages that I couldn't find release tarballs for: # bootfw # bootanim # olpc-library-common # olpc-library-core # olpc-licences # olpc-logos # olpc-contents # olpc-update cerebro has some licensing issues that I emailed the author to try to clear up. If mstone or anyone else can help me out with a pointer to the releases for these projects, I'll be happy to push a few more packages through the review process. Thanks, -RN -- Robin Norwood Red Hat, Inc. "The Sage does nothing, yet nothing remains undone." -Lao Tzu, Te Tao Ching

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Introduction
by Philippe Clérié 30 Jul '08

30 Jul '08

Hello, I've been asked to help some people who are involved with the OLPC project in Haiti. I've been following the OLPC since Nicolas Negroponte announced it way back when plus I've been working with Linux for several years now. So it seems I know a little bit more and I may be useful. I downloaded one the latest images (build 2180 I think) to run on QEMU/KVM. On QEMU it stops with the following message: This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU: 3dnow KVM does not seem to work at all. I have not been able to find much on these problems. I was hoping someone could shed some light. My computer is running Kubuntu Hardy by the way. :-) I suppose I'll have to switch to Fedora, but I don't have the bandwidth to download a DVD. Regards Philippe ------ The trouble with common sense is that it is so uncommon. <Anonymous>

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PolicyKit-olpc review
by Daniel Drake 30 Jul '08

30 Jul '08

Hi, I'm still looking for someone to review a package: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454329 I am now in cvsextras but would appreciate review before I take things further - this is my first spec file. Can anyone here help? Are there more appropriate channels for requesting reviews? Thanks, Daniel

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[Fedora-olpc-list] School Server, F9 port, livecd-tools, pungi, meetings
by Martin Langhoff 29 Jul '08

29 Jul '08

Hi all! I am a bit of a late-comer to the party. I am the lead dev, architect and general guilty party for the school server part of the OLPC project. A complement to the XO, you can think of it as "a smart gateway to internet" but it actually packs a lot more punch. Or will do soon. [ See http://wiki.laptop.org/go/School_server for more details on what the School Server does ] The School Server (aka XS) is a relatively simple "server" spin, right now based on a custom F7 LiveCD. While I don't want to get too distracted from development of tools to make it useful, I am trying to upgrade to F9 and switch from LiveCDs to a normal installer/upgrader (using pungi - is that the right tool?). In general, I will be trying to ask questions on the appropriate lists (fedora-devel, etc) -- if you can help enlighten me on the ways of the Fedora, I will be forever thankful (I am recovering from years away from RH/Fedora distros :-) ). Earlier today, I added a 'fedoradev' tag to all the bits where we could do with Fedora expertise -- they are around packaging and core configuration changes. If you think you can help, this list is a good start: https://dev.laptop.org/query?status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&gro… For those who aren't Fedora or RPM experts but can hack on web development tools and less "internal" stuff, I added a similar tag, called "easy" (not that they are actually easy, but it's a good trick to make you look ;-) ) https://dev.laptop.org/query?status=assigned&status=new&status=reopened&gro… And lastly, about meetings, I am in the NZ timezone. So I will be happy to join meetings post 5pm EST... 4pm if you let me know with time. Anything earlier, I'll snore in your general direction :-) and heartfelt *thanks* to Greg and to Rahul, who's already been helping me quite a bit. cheers, martin -- martin.langhoff(a)gmail.com martin(a)laptop.org -- School Server Architect - ask interesting questions - don't get distracted with shiny stuff - working code first - http://wiki.laptop.org/go/User:Martinlanghoff

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[Fedora-olpc-list] Introduction
by Morgan Collett 29 Jul '08

29 Jul '08

Hi, I'm Morgan Collett, based in Cape Town, South Africa. I'm a contractor for OLPC working on the collaboration framework. I have done some package maintenance for telepathy packages and Presence Service, and I maintain some activities including Chat.

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Re: [Fedora-olpc-list] Looking for Testers: Sugar Appliance
by Sebastian Dziallas 28 Jul '08

28 Jul '08

Christoph Derndorfer wrote: > Sebastian Dziallas schrieb: >> Bryan Kearney wrote: >>> I have put together a sugar desktop appliance [1], but I am not very >>> familiar with the sugar desktop in order to adequately test it. I am >>> looking for anyone who is willing to take a few minutes and give it a >>> spin. The directions for xen/kvm are: >>> >>> 1) Download [1] >>> 2) Untar and unzip it >>> 3) run virt-image sugar.xml >>> 4) At the fedora login, select "Autologin" >>> >>> You are good to go. If you would like to build it yourself, you can >>> get build this with the appliance creator [2] using the kickstart >>> file [3]. >>> >>> -- bk >>> >>> [1] http://sugar.s3.amazonaws.com/sugarAppliance.tar.gz >>> [2] http://www.thincrust.net/tooling.html >>> [3] http://sugar.s3.amazonaws.com/sugar.ks >> >> Yeah... great! >> >> If I got some spare time, I'll make sure to give it a try ;) >> It's just that my CPU isn't xen/kvm compatible, so I'll need to >> convert the applicane... >> >> By the way: This may be a very well start for a possible sugar-based >> spin. I'm going to dig a little bit deeper into it :) > Sorry if I'm ignorant or missing something here but what is "a desktop > appliance"? > > Thanks, > Christoph >> >> Sebastian Well, it's not a spin (so you're not going to download an ISO file or something like this). Maybe one could define it as a virtual machine coming with pre-configured content (this is, how I'd try to explain it in few works, feel free to correct me :). You could have a look at this one: http://www.thincrust.org/ They've information on creating those appliances using Fedora tools. Ahh... just came across their definition: "An appliance is a pre-configured application and operating system bundle. Configuration options are controlled for ease of use and installation. " Hope this helps, Sebastian

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