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Firefox font rendering
by Gordon Messmer 03 Jun '09

03 Jun '09

When I load this URL in firefox-3.5-0.20.beta4.fc11.x86_64, all of the text is as boxes with numbers, like Unicode for which there is no font. Before I file a bug report, can anyone confirm that Firefox behaves the same for them?

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rawhide report: 20090603 changes
by Fedora compose checker 03 Jun '09

03 Jun '09

Compose started at Wed Jun 3 06:15:03 UTC 2009 Updated Packages: anaconda-11.5.0.59-1.fc11 ------------------------- * Tue Jun 02 2009 Chris Lumens <clumens(a)redhat.com> - 11.5.0.59-1 - Do not show disabled repos such as rawhide during the install (#503798). (jkeating) Summary: Added Packages: 0 Removed Packages: 0 Modified Packages: 1 Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- cabal2spec-0.12-1.fc11.noarch requires ghc > 0:6.10.1-7

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Re: swap partitions are type 83?
by Allen Kistler 02 Jun '09

02 Jun '09

Gene Czarcinski wrote: > On Monday 01 June 2009 14:09:35 James Laska wrote: >> On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 01:57 -0500, Allen Kistler wrote: >>> It's really late to notice this, I know, but F11 anaconda is creating >>> swap partitions as type 83 instead of as type 82. >>> >>> I know F11 has discarded the concept that partitions must begin and end >>> on cylinder boundaries, but has it also discarded the concept that swaps >>> are a separate partition type from file partitions? >>> >>> BZ 503457 >> >> Nice catch! I've confirmed the behavioral change between F10 and F11 >> and added some data to the bug report. > > It may be a change between F10 and F11 but it really matter. IIRC, for a > number of releases now, Fedora Linux looks at the "signature" for a swap file > and ignores the 82/83 type. > > Yes, it is a change but ... so what? "So what" is kind of my question, too, but maybe with a different inclination. I recognize that Fedora works okay with swaps as type 83, but: 1. Has that been a conscious design choice? Well, no, apparently it wasn't. It simply resulted because anaconda switched in F11 to using parted for partitioning. How much anaconda should do vs. how much parted should do is being discussed among the maintainers. The rest of us get to wait and watch. 2. Does it introduce inter-operation problems with other distros (i.e., dual-boot, etc.) and non-Fedora apps? On that, no one seems to know for sure, but there is concern that it might. From the comments in the bug, I'd say type 82 is likely to make a return. Whether it does so by F11 GA is another matter.

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BugZappers Meting Recap for 2009-06-02
by TK009 02 Jun '09

02 Jun '09

The meeting recap and full IRC transcript can be found here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/Meetings/Minutes-2009-Jun-02 Please make any corrections and clarifications to that page. = Bug Triage Meeting :: 2009-06-02 = Agenda: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-June/msg00076.html == Attendees == * adamw * arxs * iarlyy * thomasj * poelcat * SMParrish == Meeting Recap == * Triage Metrics - http://publictest14.fedoraproject.org/triageweb/ The metrics are now in beta. Bug reports and RFE's should be posted here http://fedorahosted.org/triage Code http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/triage.git proposal for FAS changes - New bugzappers to apply to 'triagers', and for that to be automatically linked to 'fedorabugs', making 'triagers' group an accurate record of our actual bugzappers membership. This has been forwarded to the FAS admins. * Severity/priority - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Beland/ Awaiting changes to bugzilla before going officially into effect. See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495985 BugZappers can begin to set the severity field on bugs reported to rawhide. * Open Floor arxs discussed the addition of https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=459323 to the common bugs page. It was agreed it should be added which arxs will do. SMParrish brought up a very good suggestion for fellow triagers. Full information here: https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-June/msg00149.html Thanks to those that attended to make it a productive meeting. Edward (TK009)

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slightly OT - X performance benchmark
by David L 02 Jun '09

02 Jun '09

My f11 system seems extremely slow when running some 2D gtk/cairo apps. Is there a benchmark suite that is yum installable for testing X performance? If there is such a suite, it there a way to compare my results with typical results for similar graphics cards (maybe something like smolt but with benchmark results)? I'm mostly interested in 2D performance. Thanks, David

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Re: RCs for Everyone (was One (more) week slip of Fedora 11 Release)
by Robert 'Bob' Jensen 02 Jun '09

02 Jun '09

----- "Bill Davidsen" <davidsen(a)tmr.com> wrote: > Everyone seeds for people, the server should not be seeding more than > 1-2 > clients, who then seed other, and others, leaving the server to do > only bookkeeping. > As long as people will "re-seed" in a example case distributing Fedora Unity's Re-Spins showed this did not happen enough. > I get the impression that jigdo is out of favor for some reason, but > it does > what I had in mind, allow the end user to create an install media as > often as > needed, and just upgrade the jigdo file and go. If the jigdo control > file > created a dated ISO image, it could be updated very regularly. And if > editing > the jigdo file were easier people could add their own list of > non-default > packages if they were creating a 8.5GB image. > > It appears to be as easy as updating the jigdo file, which may be done > already > if you do internal daily (or frequent) install media creation for > testing. > > There, that didn't take a wiki page, all it needs is a comment on the > state of > the tools needed. > Jigdo is out of favor for many reasons. NIH, was written in the debian camp with competent debian users as the target consumer from what I can tell. Former debian users now in the Fedora community saying "debian users do not even use jigdo any more" because we all know that debian is the baseline that determines if something is useful or not. Upsteam that is not interested in improving or adding functionality. The GUI does not work, you have to use jigdo-lite, oh no the horrors of the command line. The list really goes on and on, The Fedora Unity team has been working on a python rewrite of jigdo, pyjigdo, for a while off and on. Jigdo has been working very well when distributing the Fedora Unity Re-Spins. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ | Robert 'Bob' Jensen || Fedora Unity Founder | | bob(a)fedoraunity.org || http://fedoraunity.org/ | | http://bjensen.fedorapeople.org/ | | http://blogs.fedoraunity.org/bobjensen | ------------------------------------------------------------------------

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How to report bugs page revised
by Adam Williamson 02 Jun '09

02 Jun '09

Hi, guys. I just made some revisions to the 'how to report bugs' page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs_and_feature_requests probably the most significant - I cleaned up this bit: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Bugs_and_feature_requests#Tips_by_Type_of_Bug to link to external pages for each component that has specific guidance on what information to include when filing bugs. It was getting unwieldy to have several components just have the information written directly into that page. It'd be great to have this information available for more packages, and expanded for those that are already there. Especially those of you who are triaging actively, when you get tips from the maintainers about information that would be useful to include in reports for your components, either add it to the existing page on the component, or create a new page (along the lines of one of the existing ones) for your component and link it from that page. thanks all! -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net

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i386 and x86_64 DVD deltaisos available for RC3
by Andre Robatino 02 Jun '09

02 Jun '09

I've made available i386 and x86_64 DVD deltaisos for RC3. These are for both Preview->RC3 and RC2->RC3. For i386 Preview DVD -> i386 RC3 DVD: http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=497873 MD5 b283ffdf81cc3c667d6f309ef022e9d2 size = 235,924,175 bytes (6.4% of full ISO) For i386 RC2 DVD -> i386 RC3 DVD: http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=497879 MD5 8c27e24a4f07b17e57de083a9d538d83 size = 60,774,170 bytes (1.65% of full ISO) For x86_64 Preview DVD -> x86_64 RC3 DVD: http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=497957 MD5 ff70421eab4269776e924595e4b5b844 size = 242,794,142 bytes (5.7% of full ISO) For x86_64 RC2 DVD -> x86_64 RC3 DVD: http://www.yourfilelink.com/get.php?fid=497962 MD5 1ea8021dd0ecdefdfe6aade3785001c0 size = 49,335,972 bytes (1.15% of full ISO) The running time for applydeltaiso is approximately 5 minutes for the RC2->RC3 disos, and 20 minutes for the Preview->RC3 disos. The procedure is similar to that described in http://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-May/msg01405.html

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f11 X "hang"
by David L 02 Jun '09

02 Jun '09

I'm having a strange problem where X is kinda sorta hanging... I can move the mouse and the keyboard is responsive to changes in caps lock, but I can't switch workspaces or select a new window or do anything useful from my X session. The way I'm getting into this state is to do this: strace ekiga When I do this, I see a bunch of strace output but the ekiga window never pops up and I can't do anything until I ssh into the system and kill ekiga. The last thing I see in the strace is this: poll([{fd=13, events=POLLIN}], 1, -1) = 1 ([{fd=13, revents=POLLIN}]) read(13, "\34\3\263\0\4\0 \6f\1\0\0C\202\f\r\0\365l\n\240\303]\tLA\374\277\n\0\0\0"..., 4096) = 32 read(13, 0x93f4218, 4096) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) poll([{fd=13, events=POLLIN|POLLOUT}], 1, -1) = 1 ([{fd=13, revents=POLLOUT}]) writev(13, [{"\31\0\v\0\3\0\340\2\0\0\0\0! \0\0\3\0\340\2\33\1\0\0C\202\f\r\0\0\0\0\4"..., 48}, {NULL, 0}, {""..., 0}], 3) = 48 poll([{fd=13, events=POLLIN}], 1, -1 It's not that big a deal... I don't really need to strace ekiga. I was just doing that to get a clue where it might be reading user preferences from. But it's a weird problem that I thought I'd throw out there to see if anybody knows what's going on. Thanks... David

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A Modest Suggestion to make SElinux usable.
by Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX 02 Jun '09

02 Jun '09

Add a menu choice to the SElinux avc denial popup that tells SElinux: "Let it do that". -- Chuck Forsberg caf(a)omen.com www.omen.com 503-614-0430 Developer of Industrial ZMODEM(Tm) for Embedded Applications Omen Technology Inc "The High Reliability Software" 10255 NW Old Cornelius Pass Portland OR 97231 FAX 629-0665

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