On Fri, 2012-08-17 at 09:41 -0400, Timothy Davis wrote:

On Fri, 2012-08-17 at 12:13 +0000, Andre Robatino wrote:

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The 18 Alpha TC3 DVD appears to default to a networked install (meaning it uses packages from the updates repos when they are newer than the ones on the DVD). I noticed this when choosing the GNOME Desktop and nothing else, and ended up getting "Software Selection" errors. Clicking on "Error checking software dependencies. Click for details." gives

1:control-center-3.5.5-2.fc18.x86 64 requires libgnome-bluetooth.so.10()(64bit) shotwell-0.12.3-1.fc18.x86_64 requires libgphoto2_port.so.0()(64bit)

even though shotwell is not even on the DVD and the repoclosure problem with control-center was fixed on the TC3 DVD. I looked under "Installation Source" and there is a box "Don't install the latest available software updates. Install the default versions provided by the install source above." which is unchecked by default. I checked the box, but still get the same errors, so it's not working. Aside from that, I'm not happy with the default of a networked install in that

1. It's less reliable than a non-networked install because of problems like the

one above (assuming the DVD itself has no repoclosure or file conflicts problems), and

2. It means higher bandwidth use, since the default is to download updated

packages in full, rather than installing the old version from the DVD and then saving bandwidth by downloading the updated version with yum-presto.

I think if you setup network devices before package selection it won't try to use networking during install.

I only have wireless available, if I try to skip over network setup anaconda falls apart.

Chris Lumens <clumens <at> redhat.com> writes:

That box doesn't do anything yet.

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Aside from that, I'm not happy with the default of a networked install in that

1. It's less reliable than a non-networked install because of problems like

the one above (assuming the DVD itself has no repoclosure or file conflicts problems), and

2. It means higher bandwidth use, since the default is to download

updated packages in full, rather than installing the old version from the DVD and then saving bandwidth by downloading the updated version with yum-presto.

Well, obviously, it's a bug and it will get fixed.D But if you want to

The box for getting packages from the indicated install source seems to work now. But it's still unchecked by default. This means that someone with limited bandwidth, who installs F18 several months after release, and doesn't know about the new default, may get a nasty surprise when they find themselves doing something closer to a netinst install than a non-networked one, even though they're using the DVD. I think it's inconsistent to default to using drpms (yum-presto) by default for updating an installed system, but not when installing by DVD (by installing the old versions locally and then using drpms to update). (And it should be noted that yum-presto in F18 and up can now use multiple cores, so people with such hardware who had it disabled before should try it again.)