Hi,
When I installed F9 from the liveCD I decided to use the EXT4 file system. Unfortunately, there was no way to boot from my ext3 mbr. It kept hanging when it went to the boot partition. I tried some playing around but didn't get it to work. I ended up using preupgrade, which worked flawlessly but left me in ext3.
When F10 is available I would like to run it in an ext4 filesystem. Will this incompatibility between ext3 and ext4 still be a problem? F10 will not be installed on the same disk as the mbr is on. If it is a problem, is there a workaround?
Just in case, will preupgrade work for F10?
Thanks.
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:01 PM, stan eiqep_eiwo_y@cox.net wrote:
Hi,
When I installed F9 from the liveCD I decided to use the EXT4 file system. Unfortunately, there was no way to boot from my ext3 mbr. It kept hanging when it went to the boot partition. I tried some playing around but didn't get it to work. I ended up using preupgrade, which worked flawlessly but left me in ext3.
When F10 is available I would like to run it in an ext4 filesystem. Will this incompatibility between ext3 and ext4 still be a problem? F10 will not be installed on the same disk as the mbr is on. If it is a problem, is there a workaround?
Just in case, will preupgrade work for F10?
Thanks.
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AFAICT, no.
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:01 PM, stan eiqep_eiwo_y@cox.net wrote:
Hi,
When I installed F9 from the liveCD I decided to use the EXT4 file system. Unfortunately, there was no way to boot from my ext3 mbr. It kept hanging when it went to the boot partition. I tried some playing around but didn't get it to work. I ended up using preupgrade, which worked flawlessly but left me in ext3.
When F10 is available I would like to run it in an ext4 filesystem. Will this incompatibility between ext3 and ext4 still be a problem? F10 will not be installed on the same disk as the mbr is on. If it is a problem, is there a workaround?
Just in case, will preupgrade work for F10?
Thanks.
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AFAICT, no.
No to what? He asked 2 questions.
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On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Jon Ciesla limb@jcomserv.net wrote:
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:01 PM, stan eiqep_eiwo_y@cox.net wrote:
Hi,
When I installed F9 from the liveCD I decided to use the EXT4 file system. Unfortunately, there was no way to boot from my ext3 mbr. It kept hanging when it went to the boot partition. I tried some playing around but didn't get it to work. I ended up using preupgrade, which worked flawlessly but left me in ext3.
When F10 is available I would like to run it in an ext4 filesystem. Will this incompatibility between ext3 and ext4 still be a problem? F10 will not be installed on the same disk as the mbr is on. If it is a problem, is there a workaround?
Just in case, will preupgrade work for F10?
Thanks.
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AFAICT, no.
No to what? He asked 2 questions.
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No as in one cannot boot from a ext3 mbr if one wants to use ext4. Sorry for not being explicit enough.
2008/10/28 Aioanei Rares schaiba@gmail.com
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Jon Ciesla limb@jcomserv.net wrote:
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:01 PM, stan eiqep_eiwo_y@cox.net wrote:
Hi,
When I installed F9 from the liveCD I decided to use the EXT4 file system. Unfortunately, there was no way to boot from my ext3 mbr.
btw, what's an ext3 mbr?
It kept
hanging when it went to the boot partition. I tried some playing around but didn't get it to work. I ended up using preupgrade, which worked flawlessly but left me in ext3.
When F10 is available I would like to run it in an ext4 filesystem. Will this incompatibility between ext3 and ext4 still be a problem? F10
will
not be installed on the same disk as the mbr is on. If it is a problem, is there a workaround?
Just in case, will preupgrade work for F10?
Thanks.
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AFAICT, no.
No to what? He asked 2 questions.
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No as in one cannot boot from a ext3 mbr if one wants to use ext4. Sorry for not being explicit enough. -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 02:25:25PM -0700, stan wrote:
cornel panceac wrote:
btw, what's an ext3 mbr?
An mbr on an ext3 formatted disk, created with a grub from that ext3 formatted disk. Perhaps not the best way to describe it. :-)
Disks are not usually formatted with filesystems such as ext3. Partitions are.
MBR lives outside any partition, being the first sector of the disk where the primary partition table lives.
So the statement "ext3 mbr" makes no sense.
2008/10/28 stan eiqep_eiwo_y@cox.net
cornel panceac wrote:
btw, what's an ext3 mbr?
An mbr on an ext3 formatted disk, created with a grub from that ext3
formatted disk. Perhaps not the best way to describe it. :-)
interesting. thnx, but see chuck anderson's comment.
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--- On Tue, 10/28/08, Aioanei Rares schaiba@gmail.com wrote:
From: Aioanei Rares schaiba@gmail.com Subject: Re: ext4 able to boot from ext3 mbr? To: limb@jcomserv.net, "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" fedora-test-list@redhat.com Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 8:16 AM On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Jon Ciesla limb@jcomserv.net wrote:
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:01 PM, stan
eiqep_eiwo_y@cox.net wrote:
Hi,
When I installed F9 from the liveCD I decided
to use the EXT4 file
system. Unfortunately, there was no way to boot from
my ext3 mbr. It kept
hanging when it went to the boot partition. I tried
some playing around but
didn't get it to work. I ended up using preupgrade,
which worked flawlessly
but left me in ext3.
When F10 is available I would like to run it
in an ext4 filesystem.
Will this incompatibility between ext3 and ext4
still be a problem? F10 will
not be installed on the same disk as the mbr is
on. If it is a problem, is
there a workaround?
Just in case, will preupgrade work for F10?
Thanks.
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AFAICT, no.
No to what? He asked 2 questions.
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No as in one cannot boot from a ext3 mbr if one wants to use ext4. Sorry for not being explicit enough. --
One can have an ext4 partition, but the /boot partition has to be ext2 or ext3 if I am not mistaken? I have such a setup that I have an ext4 partition, but I am not sure if the /boot partition is ext2 or ext3?
Regards,
Antonio
2008/10/28 Antonio Olivares olivares14031@yahoo.com
--- On Tue, 10/28/08, Aioanei Rares schaiba@gmail.com wrote:
From: Aioanei Rares schaiba@gmail.com Subject: Re: ext4 able to boot from ext3 mbr? To: limb@jcomserv.net, "For testers of Fedora Core development releases"
Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 8:16 AM On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Jon Ciesla limb@jcomserv.net wrote:
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:01 PM, stan
eiqep_eiwo_y@cox.net wrote:
Hi,
When I installed F9 from the liveCD I decided
to use the EXT4 file
system. Unfortunately, there was no way to boot from
my ext3 mbr. It kept
hanging when it went to the boot partition. I tried
some playing around but
didn't get it to work. I ended up using preupgrade,
which worked flawlessly
but left me in ext3.
When F10 is available I would like to run it
in an ext4 filesystem.
Will this incompatibility between ext3 and ext4
still be a problem? F10 will
not be installed on the same disk as the mbr is
on. If it is a problem, is
there a workaround?
Just in case, will preupgrade work for F10?
Thanks.
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AFAICT, no.
No to what? He asked 2 questions.
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No as in one cannot boot from a ext3 mbr if one wants to use ext4. Sorry for not being explicit enough. --
One can have an ext4 partition, but the /boot partition has to be ext2 or ext3 if I am not mistaken? I have such a setup that I have an ext4 partition, but I am not sure if the /boot partition is ext2 or ext3?
i have / on ext4 and /boot on ext3.
Regards,
Antonio
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--- On Tue, 10/28/08, cornel panceac cpanceac@gmail.com wrote:
i have / on ext4 and /boot on ext3.
-- Linux counter #213090
After figuring it out, I have ext3 /boot partition and the main one for F10 is ext4 :)
[root@riohigh ~]# fdisk -l
Disk /dev/sda: 320.0 GB, 320072933376 bytes 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 38913 cylinders Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes Disk identifier: 0xaf7caf7c
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/sda1 * 1 12 96358+ 83 Linux /dev/sda2 31841 31865 200812+ 83 Linux /dev/sda3 31866 38913 56613060 8e Linux LVM /dev/sda4 13 31840 255658410 5 Extended /dev/sda5 13 26108 209616088+ 83 Linux /dev/sda6 26109 26239 1052226 82 Linux swap / Solaris /dev/sda7 26240 31840 44990001 83 Linux
Partition table entries are not in disk order [root@riohigh ~]# /sbin/blkid -s TYPE /dev/sda1 /dev/sda1: TYPE="ext3" [root@riohigh ~]# /sbin/blkid -s TYPE /dev/sda5 /dev/sda5: TYPE="ext4"
Regards,
Antonio
Antonio Olivares wrote:
One can have an ext4 partition, but the /boot partition has to be ext2 or ext3 if I am not mistaken? I have such a setup that I have an ext4 partition, but I am not sure if the /boot partition is ext2 or ext3?
That's correct.
If the mention of "ext3 mbr" meant "/boot is ext3" then the relevant info is: grub cannot (yet) boot from ext4. /boot must be a separate, non-ext4, grub-supported filesystem. I'd go with ext3.
Thanks, -Eric
Eric Sandeen wrote:
Antonio Olivares wrote:
One can have an ext4 partition, but the /boot partition has to be ext2 or ext3 if I am not mistaken? I have such a setup that I have an ext4 partition, but I am not sure if the /boot partition is ext2 or ext3?
That's correct.
If the mention of "ext3 mbr" meant "/boot is ext3" then the relevant info is: grub cannot (yet) boot from ext4. /boot must be a separate, non-ext4, grub-supported filesystem. I'd go with ext3.
Thanks, -Eric
I want to thank everyone who responded. It is clear to me now what is necessary to use an ext4 filesystem.
My failure was that I was using /boot that was ext4. I could select it from the grub menu on the other disk, but when it tried to start from there, it failed.
At least that is what I remember. It's been a while.
stan wrote:
When I installed F9 from the liveCD I decided to use the EXT4 file system. Unfortunately, there was no way to boot from my ext3 mbr.
Slightly OT, but I didn't see any mention of ext4 when I installed F10 (actually F9.92) from the KDE Live CD. When I formatted a partition (I used Custom Install) I was offered ext3 or ext2, IIRC, but not ext4.
Less OT, can't one have ext3 /boot with ext3 MBR?
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Timothy Murphy tim@maths.tcd.ie wrote:
stan wrote:
When I installed F9 from the liveCD I decided to use the EXT4 file system. Unfortunately, there was no way to boot from my ext3 mbr.
Slightly OT, but I didn't see any mention of ext4 when I installed F10 (actually F9.92) from the KDE Live CD. When I formatted a partition (I used Custom Install) I was offered ext3 or ext2, IIRC, but not ext4.
Less OT, can't one have ext3 /boot with ext3 MBR?
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Maybe I'm a little outdated, but /boot must be ext2.
2008/10/28 Aioanei Rares schaiba@gmail.com
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Timothy Murphy tim@maths.tcd.ie wrote:
stan wrote:
When I installed F9 from the liveCD I decided to use the EXT4 file system. Unfortunately, there was no way to boot from my ext3 mbr.
Slightly OT, but I didn't see any mention of ext4 when I installed F10 (actually F9.92) from the KDE Live CD. When I formatted a partition (I used Custom Install) I was offered ext3 or ext2, IIRC, but not ext4.
Less OT, can't one have ext3 /boot with ext3 MBR?
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Maybe I'm a little outdated, but /boot must be ext2.
if i was you, i'd listen to eric sandeen. please don't ask me why :)
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--- On Tue, 10/28/08, Timothy Murphy tim@maths.tcd.ie wrote:
From: Timothy Murphy tim@maths.tcd.ie Subject: Re: ext4 able to boot from ext3 mbr? To: fedora-test-list@redhat.com Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 8:22 AM stan wrote:
When I installed F9 from the liveCD I decided to use
the
EXT4 file system. Unfortunately, there was no way to
boot
from my ext3 mbr.
Slightly OT, but I didn't see any mention of ext4 when I installed F10 (actually F9.92) from the KDE Live CD. When I formatted a partition (I used Custom Install) I was offered ext3 or ext2, IIRC, but not ext4.
Less OT, can't one have ext3 /boot with ext3 MBR?
--
Yes! Last post(s) confirm it.
Regards,
Antonio
Timothy Murphy wrote:
stan wrote:
When I installed F9 from the liveCD I decided to use the EXT4 file system. Unfortunately, there was no way to boot from my ext3 mbr.
Slightly OT, but I didn't see any mention of ext4 when I installed F10 (actually F9.92) from the KDE Live CD. When I formatted a partition (I used Custom Install) I was offered ext3 or ext2, IIRC, but not ext4.
It takes a special boot-time parameter, put "ext4" on the anaconda boot line and you'll see the option in the custom partitioning screen.
-Eric
Less OT, can't one have ext3 /boot with ext3 MBR?
Eric Sandeen wrote:
Slightly OT, but I didn't see any mention of ext4
when I installed F10 (actually F9.92) from the KDE Live CD. When I formatted a partition (I used Custom Install) I was offered ext3 or ext2, IIRC, but not ext4.
It takes a special boot-time parameter, put "ext4" on the anaconda boot line and you'll see the option in the custom partitioning screen.
Does the Live CD give one an opportunity to add options? I didn't see an anaconda boot line after I clicked on the "Install on hard disk" icon.
Timothy Murphy wrote:
Eric Sandeen wrote:
Slightly OT, but I didn't see any mention of ext4
when I installed F10 (actually F9.92) from the KDE Live CD. When I formatted a partition (I used Custom Install) I was offered ext3 or ext2, IIRC, but not ext4.
It takes a special boot-time parameter, put "ext4" on the anaconda boot line and you'll see the option in the custom partitioning screen.
Does the Live CD give one an opportunity to add options? I didn't see an anaconda boot line after I clicked on the "Install on hard disk" icon.
It's not an option for the live cd, only the installer.
If you install to disk from the livecd, you get ext3.
-Eric
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