--------------------------------------------------------------------- Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-351 2004-10-27 ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Product : Fedora Core 2 Name : wget Version : 1.9.1 Release : 16.fc2 Summary : A utility for retrieving files using the HTTP or FTP protocols. Description : GNU Wget is a file retrieval utility which can use either the HTTP or FTP protocols. Wget features include the ability to work in the background while you are logged out, recursive retrieval of directories, file name wildcard matching, remote file timestamp storage and comparison, use of Rest with FTP servers and Range with HTTP servers to retrieve files over slow or unstable connections, support for Proxy servers, and configurability.
--------------------------------------------------------------------- Update Information:
This new release of wget adds support for large files >2Gb
Please test if the following works (make sure that your web/ftp server supports large files):
- downloads of files smaller / larger than 2Gb via http and ftp - continue aborted downloads smaller / larger 2Gb via http and ftp
Add your feedback to http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=123524
If I hear of no larger problems until Thu Nov 04, this package will be released as an update for Fedora Core 2.
Thanks Karsten
--------------------------------------------------------------------- * Fri Oct 22 2004 Karsten Hopp karsten@redhat.de 1.9.1-16.fc2
- build large file version for FC2
* Wed Sep 29 2004 Karsten Hopp karsten@redhat.de 1.9.1-17
- additional LFS patch from Leonid Petrov to fix file lengths in http downloads
* Thu Sep 16 2004 Karsten Hopp karsten@redhat.de 1.9.1-16
- more fixes
* Tue Sep 14 2004 Karsten Hopp karsten@redhat.de 1.9.1-15
- added strtol fix from Leonid Petrov, reenable LFS
* Tue Sep 14 2004 Karsten Hopp karsten@redhat.de 1.9.1-14
- buildrequires gettext (#132519)
* Wed Sep 01 2004 Karsten Hopp karsten@redhat.de 1.9.1-13
- disable LFS patch for now, it breaks normal downloads (123524#c15)
--------------------------------------------------------------------- This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/
0f36e50c0c40ffdd5508d3862c54ba6f SRPMS/wget-1.9.1-16.fc2.src.rpm 96be1e722ca313667b54b5fd1e04f824 x86_64/wget-1.9.1-16.fc2.x86_64.rpm 678ab943f66b4991ccd9c6d6c101652d x86_64/debug/wget-debuginfo-1.9.1-16.fc2.x86_64.rpm 945a00f2a922adaf2ff0f035972793a7 i386/wget-1.9.1-16.fc2.i386.rpm fc1841ba974b739454e16031cc927111 i386/debug/wget-debuginfo-1.9.1-16.fc2.i386.rpm
This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/$A... ---------------------------------------------------------------------
-- Karsten Hopp karsten@redhat.de GPG 1024D/70ABD02C Fingerprint D2D4 3B6B 2DE4 464C A432 210A DFF8 A140 70AB D02C Red Hat Deutschland, Hauptstaetter Str.58 70178 Stuttgart, Tel.+49-711-96437-0, Fax +49-711-96437-111
Any change this will make it into FC3. I have plenty of times I need to download multi-gig files via http and ftp but am running FC3.
On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 00:57 +0200, Karsten Hopp wrote:
Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-351 2004-10-27
Product : Fedora Core 2 Name : wget Version : 1.9.1 Release : 16.fc2 Summary : A utility for retrieving files using the HTTP or FTP protocols. Description : GNU Wget is a file retrieval utility which can use either the HTTP or FTP protocols. Wget features include the ability to work in the background while you are logged out, recursive retrieval of directories, file name wildcard matching, remote file timestamp storage and comparison, use of Rest with FTP servers and Range with HTTP servers to retrieve files over slow or unstable connections, support for Proxy servers, and configurability.
Update Information:
This new release of wget adds support for large files >2Gb
Please test if the following works (make sure that your web/ftp server supports large files):
- downloads of files smaller / larger than 2Gb via http and ftp
- continue aborted downloads smaller / larger 2Gb via http and ftp
Add your feedback to http://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=123524
If I hear of no larger problems until Thu Nov 04, this package will be released as an update for Fedora Core 2.
Thanks Karsten
- Fri Oct 22 2004 Karsten Hopp karsten@redhat.de 1.9.1-16.fc2
- build large file version for FC2
- Wed Sep 29 2004 Karsten Hopp karsten@redhat.de 1.9.1-17
- additional LFS patch from Leonid Petrov to fix file lengths in http downloads
- Thu Sep 16 2004 Karsten Hopp karsten@redhat.de 1.9.1-16
- more fixes
- Tue Sep 14 2004 Karsten Hopp karsten@redhat.de 1.9.1-15
- added strtol fix from Leonid Petrov, reenable LFS
- Tue Sep 14 2004 Karsten Hopp karsten@redhat.de 1.9.1-14
- buildrequires gettext (#132519)
- Wed Sep 01 2004 Karsten Hopp karsten@redhat.de 1.9.1-13
- disable LFS patch for now, it breaks normal downloads (123524#c15)
This update can be downloaded from: http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/
0f36e50c0c40ffdd5508d3862c54ba6f SRPMS/wget-1.9.1-16.fc2.src.rpm 96be1e722ca313667b54b5fd1e04f824 x86_64/wget-1.9.1-16.fc2.x86_64.rpm 678ab943f66b4991ccd9c6d6c101652d x86_64/debug/wget-debuginfo-1.9.1-16.fc2.x86_64.rpm 945a00f2a922adaf2ff0f035972793a7 i386/wget-1.9.1-16.fc2.i386.rpm fc1841ba974b739454e16031cc927111 i386/debug/wget-debuginfo-1.9.1-16.fc2.i386.rpm
This update can also be installed with the Update Agent; you can launch the Update Agent with the 'up2date' command. You may need to edit your up2date channels configuration. Within /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources enable the following line: yum updates-testing http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/updates/testing/2/$A...
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On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 17:31:46 -0500 Neil Gierman ngierman@roadrunn.com wrote:
Hi top poster,
Any change this will make it into FC3. I have plenty of times I need to download multi-gig files via http and ftp but am running FC3.
On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 00:57 +0200, Karsten Hopp wrote:
Fedora Test Update Notification FEDORA-2004-351 2004-10-27
Product : Fedora Core 2 Name : wget Version : 1.9.1 Release : 16.fc2 Summary : A utility for retrieving files using the HTTP or FTP protocols.
Update Information:
This new release of wget adds support for large files >2Gb
Version 1.9.1-17 (also >2GB OK) has been in rawhide/development some time now. I expect this to be in FC3-final and the FC3 release candidates too.
greetings, Rob van Nieuwkerk
A: Because people read from top to bottom. Q: Why is top posting bad?
A: Because people read from top to bottom. Q: Why is top posting bad?
Even though this is off topic... But if you read the _thread_ from top to bottom maybe you wouldn't need to have the thread reproduced _in_ every message. If reading the thread is too much trouble, then maybe the reply is not worth the effort.
Andrew
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 20:12:33 -0400 Andrew cmkrnl@speakeasy.net wrote:
Hi Andrew,
A: Because people read from top to bottom. Q: Why is top posting bad?
Even though this is off topic... But if you read the _thread_ from top to bottom maybe you wouldn't need to have the thread reproduced _in_ every message. If reading the thread is too much trouble, then maybe the reply is not worth the effort.
I think it is good to quote the *relevant* part of the posting you are replying to in a reply:
- it makes a reply easier to understand: you can put your reply lines exactly under the right line of the original text if necessary.
- people might not have the part of the thread or the original posting available anymore because they already deleted it (maybe some time ago already). Providing the relevant context makes a reply much more useful by itself.
- if this this relevant context is in an email it is also much easier to use it stand-alone. For example by forwarding it to someone or storing it.
Of course always quoting the *complete* post you are replying to is very bad. But not as bad as top posting of course .. :-)
greetings, Rob van Nieuwkerk
Good evening Rob,
Rob van Nieuwkerk wrote:
I think it is good to quote the *relevant* part of the posting you are replying to in a reply:
- it makes a reply easier to understand: you can put your reply lines exactly under the right line of the original text if necessary.
Rather than making it easier to understand, the quote only provides immediate context. Sometimes that makes things easier to understand, but sometimes not. This, however, is not a forum for a discussion of epistemology.
- people might not have the part of the thread or the original posting available anymore because they already deleted it (maybe some time ago already). Providing the relevant context makes a reply much more useful by itself.
This list, like many others are, at least, presumed to be presented in a threaded context. The "official" list archives are presented as threads, and many modern email clients are capable of threaded views.
Many would construe the deleting of messages in a thread as declarative of one's *disinterest* in the thread, or sub-thread.
- if this this relevant context is in an email it is also much easier to use it stand-alone. For example by forwarding it to someone or storing it.
No doubt, but if one has deleted the parent message it could be argued that it is hardly likely that a "context-less" or top-posted reply would be considered worthy enough to be personally archived or forwarded to others.
Of course always quoting the *complete* post you are replying to is very bad. But not as bad as top posting of course .. :-)
Perhaps those replies should simply meet the same fate as the previous parts of the thread that were deleted.
Many people err, and sometimes a top-post will happen. Sometimes things like top-posts happen because the poster is unfamiliar with the latest advances in etiquette for mailing lists. Sometimes people just make mistakes and hit "send" too quickly. If one feels it necessary to correct another on topics such as top-posting or other etiquette issues, one might consider avoiding humorous salutations such as "Hi, top poster". I doubt however, that an appeal to etiquette could be legitimately sustained when one considers that the use of humor while correcting another is indistinguishable from sarcasm.
Finally, let me apologize for committing one of the greatest sins against mailing list etiquette, i.e., hijacking the thread. --
Andrew
On Wed, 2004-10-27 at 23:07 -0400, Andrew wrote:
Good evening Rob,
Rob van Nieuwkerk wrote:
I think it is good to quote the *relevant* part of the posting you are replying to in a reply:
- it makes a reply easier to understand: you can put your reply lines exactly under the right line of the original text if necessary.
Rather than making it easier to understand, the quote only provides immediate context. Sometimes that makes things easier to understand, but sometimes not. This, however, is not a forum for a discussion of epistemology.
Well you made me look that one up - not a word an engineer uses a lot...
According to Principia Cybernetica - first Google entry:
Epistemology is the branch of philosophy that studies knowledge. It attempts to answer the basic question: what distinguishes true (adequate) knowledge from false (inadequate) knowledge?
snip <
I doubt however, that an appeal to etiquette could be legitimately sustained when one considers that the use of humor while correcting another is indistinguishable from sarcasm.
Been on both ends of that one.
Finally, let me apologize for committing one of the greatest sins against mailing list etiquette, i.e., hijacking the thread. --
Think that had already happened at least once before you jumped in, but guess I just compounded the sin. ;^)
Thanks for the linguistic refresher. These hijacked threads can occasionally yield some enlightenment.
Phil
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