Suddenly my message filters stopped working. I've been using "X-BeenThere:" in the message headers to filter list emails. Do I need to create new filters, has X-BeenThere been obsoleted?
On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 11:35 -0800, Joshua Andrews wrote:
Suddenly my message filters stopped working. I've been using "X-BeenThere:" in the message headers to filter list emails. Do I need to create new filters, has X-BeenThere been obsoleted?
This is probably to do with the mailman3 update. I'd recommend using the 'List-id' header for mailing list identification purposes; that header is actually defined in an RFC - RFC2919 - so all mailing list software should produce it.
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 12:42:53 -0800 Adam Williamson adamwill@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 11:35 -0800, Joshua Andrews wrote:
Suddenly my message filters stopped working. I've been using "X-BeenThere:" in the message headers to filter list emails. Do I need to create new filters, has X-BeenThere been obsoleted?
This is probably to do with the mailman3 update. I'd recommend using the 'List-id' header for mailing list identification purposes; that header is actually defined in an RFC - RFC2919 - so all mailing list software should produce it.
Yep. X-BeenThere has been deprecated since 2007. ;(
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailman3_Migration#Email_filters
kevin
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On 11/23/2015 04:08 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 12:42:53 -0800 Adam Williamson adamwill@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 11:35 -0800, Joshua Andrews wrote:
Suddenly my message filters stopped working. I've been using "X-BeenThere:" in the message headers to filter list emails. Do I need to create new filters, has X-BeenThere been obsoleted?
This is probably to do with the mailman3 update. I'd recommend using the 'List-id' header for mailing list identification purposes; that header is actually defined in an RFC - RFC2919 - so all mailing list software should produce it.
Yep. X-BeenThere has been deprecated since 2007. ;(
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailman3_Migration#Email_filters
A similar and more annoying problem is that mailman 3 lost the X-List-Administrivia header (and didn't replace it with anything at all), so all list administrators have no simple way to filter out the moderation queue messages.
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:50:00 -0500 Stephen Gallagher sgallagh@redhat.com wrote:
A similar and more annoying problem is that mailman 3 lost the X-List-Administrivia header (and didn't replace it with anything at all), so all list administrators have no simple way to filter out the moderation queue messages.
Thankfully you filed an issue on this:
https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/164
:)
kevin
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On 11/23/2015 08:25 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:50:00 -0500 Stephen Gallagher sgallagh@redhat.com wrote:
A similar and more annoying problem is that mailman 3 lost the X-List-Administrivia header (and didn't replace it with anything at all), so all list administrators have no simple way to filter out the moderation queue messages.
Thankfully you filed an issue on this:
https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/164
:)
How clever of me! (Actually, I forgot that I filed it; when I wrote that email, I was thinking to myself "I really need to get that filed upstream"...)
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:42:53PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 11:35 -0800, Joshua Andrews wrote:
Suddenly my message filters stopped working. I've been using "X-BeenThere:" in the message headers to filter list emails. Do I need to create new filters, has X-BeenThere been obsoleted?
This is probably to do with the mailman3 update. I'd recommend using the 'List-id' header for mailing list identification purposes; that header is actually defined in an RFC - RFC2919 - so all mailing list software should produce it.
do we know if the fedora users list (or, for that matter, any of the CentOS lists) will be making the same change? I note, when working on my .procmailrc to handle this change, that I also have all those lists set up to use X-BeenThere:. (It'd be nice to not have them all appearing in the wrong place, all of a sudden! :))
Thanks!
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On 11/28/2015 07:38 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:42:53PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
This is probably to do with the mailman3 update. I'd recommend using the 'List-id' header for mailing list identification purposes; that header is actually defined in an RFC - RFC2919 - so all mailing list software should produce it.
do we know if the fedora users list (or, for that matter, any of the CentOS lists) will be making the same change? [...]
Fedora's lists have used the List-Id header for as long as I can remember. In general, it seems that each list address of the form
MAILING-LIST-NAME@lists.fedoraproject.org
has a List-Id in each of its message headers that has the list description and ends with
<MAILING-LIST-NAME.lists.fedoraproject.org>
Hope that helps. - -- Peter Gordon (codergeek42) peter@thecodergeek.com Who am I? :: http://thecodergeek.com/about-me
On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 22:38:50 -0500 Fred Smith fredex@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us wrote:
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:42:53PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2015-11-23 at 11:35 -0800, Joshua Andrews wrote:
Suddenly my message filters stopped working. I've been using "X-BeenThere:" in the message headers to filter list emails. Do I need to create new filters, has X-BeenThere been obsoleted?
This is probably to do with the mailman3 update. I'd recommend using the 'List-id' header for mailing list identification purposes; that header is actually defined in an RFC - RFC2919 - so all mailing list software should produce it.
do we know if the fedora users list (or, for that matter, any of the CentOS lists) will be making the same change? I note, when working on my .procmailrc to handle this change, that I also have all those lists set up to use X-BeenThere:. (It'd be nice to not have them all appearing in the wrong place, all of a sudden! :))
The users list will be making this change soon yes.
You would have to ask the centos folks about those lists.
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