I want to be able to use my laptop easily in 2 places - home and work. I imagine this is a very common wish.
I'm baffled by the enormous problem Fedora seems to be making of this. There seem to be 3 different applications which deal with the issue: 1. The System Settings->Network GUI which apparently comes with Fedora 2. NetApplet 3 NetworkManager I have had prblems with all three.
As I said, I'm baffled by this, as the issue seems to me almost trivial. I have two tiny shell scripts which do the job OK for me, so it can hardly require brain surgery. But I'd like touse a standard system if there is one that works.
The problems I've encountered: 1. Changes to one profile affect other profiles 2. I tried compiling this, but it did not function at all - probably my fault 3. Seemed only to work with dhcp, which I don't use at home.
My experience mirrors Tim's so I second his opinion about the Network config utilities in Fedora being too cluttered and too confusing for users. Having many options is good but in this case, it adds to the complexity. There should just be one simple user interface that does everything rather than 3 (or possibly more) alternatives.
Why not have one which does everything (maybe have a wizard interface and an expert interface which can be chosen by the user) ?
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 12:18:37 +0100, Timothy Murphy tim@birdsnest.maths.tcd.ie wrote:
I want to be able to use my laptop easily in 2 places - home and work. I imagine this is a very common wish.
I'm baffled by the enormous problem Fedora seems to be making of this. There seem to be 3 different applications which deal with the issue:
- The System Settings->Network GUI which apparently comes with Fedora
- NetApplet
3 NetworkManager I have had prblems with all three.
As I said, I'm baffled by this, as the issue seems to me almost trivial. I have two tiny shell scripts which do the job OK for me, so it can hardly require brain surgery. But I'd like touse a standard system if there is one that works.
The problems I've encountered:
- Changes to one profile affect other profiles
- I tried compiling this, but it did not function at all - probably my fault
- Seemed only to work with dhcp, which I don't use at home.
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On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 10:47 -0400, Amitabha Roy wrote:
My experience mirrors Tim's so I second his opinion about the Network config utilities in Fedora being too cluttered and too confusing for users. Having many options is good but in this case, it adds to the complexity. There should just be one simple user interface that does everything rather than 3 (or possibly more) alternatives.
That interface will be NetworkManager eventually.
On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 10:58 -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
On Thu, 2004-10-28 at 10:47 -0400, Amitabha Roy wrote:
My experience mirrors Tim's so I second his opinion about the Network config utilities in Fedora being too cluttered and too confusing for users.
system-config-network is indeed overly confusing (even to me, and I'm no newbie in this case) and is not a good design although it *was* a good idea. I am *still* having troubles with it which make me think it is broken, although if it's not then it's definitely horribly designed.
That interface will be NetworkManager eventually.
Does that mean that system-config-network will go away? Yay!!!
I mean, no offense meant to the guys/gals who worked hard to code it. But the UI and the choices made are *NOT* the best they could have been. The whole "copy" versus "new" difference between aliases and logical devices, plus the interaction of profiles and devices and what you can/can't do just does not work well.
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