Hi, Occasionally the screen gets disabled for no reason at all on my F11 system. This occurs even with the screensaver completely disabled and even after I typed something 5 seconds before. The screen suddenly goes black and as soon as I press a key it comes back to life again.
The only possible hint I found in the Xorg logfile is this though since Xorg doesn't put timestamps in front of it's log entries I'm not 100% when these entries where made and if they have anything to do with this:
Blank CRTC 0 success Disable CRTC 0 success Disable CRTC memreq 0 success Enable CRTC memreq 0 success Enable CRTC 0 success Unblank CRTC 0 success (II) RADEON(0): DIG0 transmitter: Coherent Mode enabled Output DIG0 transmitter setup success
Anyone else seeing this?
Regards, Dennis
On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 05:04 +0200, Dennis J. wrote:
Hi, Occasionally the screen gets disabled for no reason at all on my F11 system. This occurs even with the screensaver completely disabled and even after I typed something 5 seconds before. The screen suddenly goes black and as soon as I press a key it comes back to life again.
The only possible hint I found in the Xorg logfile is this though since Xorg doesn't put timestamps in front of it's log entries I'm not 100% when these entries where made and if they have anything to do with this:
Blank CRTC 0 success Disable CRTC 0 success Disable CRTC memreq 0 success Enable CRTC memreq 0 success Enable CRTC 0 success Unblank CRTC 0 success (II) RADEON(0): DIG0 transmitter: Coherent Mode enabled Output DIG0 transmitter setup success
Anyone else seeing this?
Regards, Dennis
Yes, I'm experiencing the same issue (on the integrated AMD/ATI 790GX chip)- the screen goes blank even when I'm moving the mouse while web browsing or writing an e-mail. It does not happen very often for me though, so I didn't bother yet to try to find reproducible steps for a bug report.
On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 23:35 -0400, Dawid Zamirski wrote:
On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 05:04 +0200, Dennis J. wrote:
Hi, Occasionally the screen gets disabled for no reason at all on my F11 system. This occurs even with the screensaver completely disabled and even after I typed something 5 seconds before. The screen suddenly goes black and as soon as I press a key it comes back to life again.
The only possible hint I found in the Xorg logfile is this though since Xorg doesn't put timestamps in front of it's log entries I'm not 100% when these entries where made and if they have anything to do with this:
Blank CRTC 0 success Disable CRTC 0 success Disable CRTC memreq 0 success Enable CRTC memreq 0 success Enable CRTC 0 success Unblank CRTC 0 success (II) RADEON(0): DIG0 transmitter: Coherent Mode enabled Output DIG0 transmitter setup success
Anyone else seeing this?
Regards, Dennis
Yes, I'm experiencing the same issue (on the integrated AMD/ATI 790GX chip)- the screen goes blank even when I'm moving the mouse while web browsing or writing an e-mail. It does not happen very often for me though, so I didn't bother yet to try to find reproducible steps for a bug report.
Literally dozens of people (actually, probably hundreds or thousands...) are seeing this. The report is:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501601
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 09:08:11PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 05:04 +0200, Dennis J. wrote:
Occasionally the screen gets disabled for no reason at all on my F11 system. This occurs even with the screensaver completely disabled and even after I typed something 5 seconds before.
It can go off while you are typing and it takes some seconds to come back. Quite annoying.
Anyone else seeing this?
Literally dozens of people (actually, probably hundreds or thousands...) are seeing this. The report is:
Here is an older one: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243022 It got CLOSED WONTFIX.
Michal
On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 23:32 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 09:08:11PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 05:04 +0200, Dennis J. wrote:
Occasionally the screen gets disabled for no reason at all on my F11 system. This occurs even with the screensaver completely disabled and even after I typed something 5 seconds before.
It can go off while you are typing and it takes some seconds to come back. Quite annoying.
Anyone else seeing this?
Literally dozens of people (actually, probably hundreds or thousands...) are seeing this. The report is:
Here is an older one: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243022 It got CLOSED WONTFIX.
That's extremely unlikely to have been the same problem, since this incarnation seems to have cropped up only with f11; many of those complaining are people who are known to have run f9, f10 and they didn't see the problem there. so that was probably something different (and seems to be ATI-specific, anyway).
2009/7/29 Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com
On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 23:32 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 09:08:11PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 05:04 +0200, Dennis J. wrote:
Occasionally the screen gets disabled for no reason at all on my
F11
system. This occurs even with the screensaver completely disabled
and even
after I typed something 5 seconds before.
It can go off while you are typing and it takes some seconds to come back. Quite annoying.
Anyone else seeing this?
Literally dozens of people (actually, probably hundreds or
thousands...)
are seeing this. The report is:
Here is an older one: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243022 It got CLOSED WONTFIX.
That's extremely unlikely to have been the same problem, since this incarnation seems to have cropped up only with f11; many of those complaining are people who are known to have run f9, f10 and they didn't see the problem there. so that was probably something different (and seems to be ATI-specific, anyway).
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the blanking occurs on intel too.
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On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 4:03 AM, cornel panceac cpanceac@gmail.com wrote:
2009/7/29 Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com
On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 23:32 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 09:08:11PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: I> > On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 05:04 +0200, Dennis J. wrote:
Occasionally the screen gets disabled for no reason at all on my
F11
Literally dozens of people (actually, probably hundreds or
thousands...)
are seeing this. The report is:
That's extremely unlikely to have been the same problem, since this incarnation seems to have cropped up only with f11; many of those complaining are people who are known to have run f9, f10 and they didn't see the problem there. so that was probably something different (and seems to be ATI-specific, anyway).
the blanking occurs on intel too.
It's happening with the nvidia binary driver as well.
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, James Hubbard wrote:
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 4:03 AM, cornel panceac cpanceac@gmail.com wrote:
2009/7/29 Adam Williamson <awilliam@redhat.com> On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 23:32 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 09:08:11PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > I> > On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 05:04 +0200, Dennis J. wrote: > > > > Occasionally the screen gets disabled for no reason at all on my F11 > > Literally dozens of people (actually, probably hundreds or thousands...) > > are seeing this. The report is: > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501601 >That's extremely unlikely to have been the same problem, since this incarnation seems to have cropped up only with f11; many of those complaining are people who are known to have run f9, f10 and they didn't see the problem there. so that was probably something different (and seems to be ATI-specific, anyway).
the blanking occurs on intel too.
It's happening with the nvidia binary driver as well.
the consensus(?) seems to be a power management issue, not a video issue.
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009, James Hubbard wrote:
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 4:03 AM, cornel panceac cpanceac@gmail.com
wrote:
2009/7/29 Adam Williamson <awilliam@redhat.com> On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 23:32 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 09:08:11PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > I> > On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 05:04 +0200, Dennis J. wrote: > > > > Occasionally the screen gets disabled for no reason at all on my F11 > > Literally dozens of people (actually, probably hundreds or thousands...) > > are seeing this. The report is: > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=501601 >That's extremely unlikely to have been the same problem, since this incarnation seems to have cropped up only with f11; many of those complaining are people who are known to have run f9, f10 and they didn't see the problem there. so that was probably something different (and seems to be ATI-specific, anyway).
the blanking occurs on intel too.
It's happening with the nvidia binary driver as well.
the consensus(?) seems to be a power management issue, not a video issue.
rday
I agree with that: i had blank screens with nouveau and nvidia binary driver, but only when my laptop was on battery. I also get sometimes the centre popup telling that the screen brightness was adjusted, but nothing changes (with both drivers above). nvclock seems to adjust brightness successfully though
gg
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2009/7/29 Guido Grazioli guido.grazioli@gmail.com:
I agree with that: i had blank screens with nouveau and nvidia binary driver, but only when my laptop was on battery. I also get sometimes the centre popup telling that the screen brightness was adjusted, but nothing changes (with both drivers above). nvclock seems to adjust brightness successfully though
gg>
I can agree this. More curious, after I install the nvidia blob I have leave my laptop inside the dock, so I don't run with battery power and don't see the bug again. With let me think it was caused by nouveau. I've give it a test and pulled it out to run with battery power, and after 5 minutes or less/more the screen turns black. So I guess this is relay a power management issue as Bob mentioned and not a X driver one.
-- Regards, Niels
2009/7/29 cornel panceac cpanceac@gmail.com:
That's extremely unlikely to have been the same problem, since this incarnation seems to have cropped up only with f11; many of those complaining are people who are known to have run f9, f10 and they didn't see the problem there. so that was probably something different (and seems to be ATI-specific, anyway).
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the blanking occurs on intel too.
Well, I see this also with nvidia. But only with the nouveau driver. I've run the blob now (only for resume and suspend reasons) and I haven't seen this for weeks.
-- Regards, Niels
On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 15:29 +0200, Niels Haase wrote:
2009/7/29 cornel panceac cpanceac@gmail.com:
That's extremely unlikely to have been the same problem, since this incarnation seems to have cropped up only with f11; many of those complaining are people who are known to have run f9, f10 and they didn't see the problem there. so that was probably something different (and seems to be ATI-specific, anyway).
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the blanking occurs on intel too.
Well, I see this also with nvidia. But only with the nouveau driver. I've run the blob now (only for resume and suspend reasons) and I haven't seen this for weeks.
Yes, yes, I know. That's exactly the point. The *current* incarnation of the bug affects multiple cards and drivers. The old one that Michal pointed out did not, it only affected ATI.
<snip>
Yes, yes, I know. That's exactly the point. The *current* incarnation of the bug affects multiple cards and drivers. The old one that Michal pointed out did not, it only affected ATI.
Am getting blanking using Intel, would it be related. 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) F11-64bit\RawhideKernel(s)
On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 17:18 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
<snip> > > Yes, yes, I know. That's exactly the point. The *current* incarnation of > the bug affects multiple cards and drivers. The old one that Michal > pointed out did not, it only affected ATI. >
Am getting blanking using Intel, would it be related. 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) F11-64bit\RawhideKernel(s)
If the blanking happens apparently randomly, and manifests as the screen just suddenly going blank but a keypress or mouse movement making it come back, then yes, that's the bug we're discussing here.
On 29/07/09 17:23, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 17:18 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
<snipped>
Am getting blanking using Intel, would it be related. 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) F11-64bit\RawhideKernel(s)
If the blanking happens apparently randomly, and manifests as the screen just suddenly going blank but a keypress or mouse movement making it come back, then yes, that's the bug we're discussing here.
Yeah basically.
But only breaks with kernel: kernel-2.6.31-0.103.rc4.git2.fc12.x86_64 Ok on: kernel-2.6.31-0.94.rc4.fc12.x86_64 kernel-firmware-2.6.31-0.103.rc4.git2.fc12.noarch
On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 17:28 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
On 29/07/09 17:23, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 17:18 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
<snipped> >> >> Am getting blanking using Intel, would it be related. >> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express >> Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) >> F11-64bit\RawhideKernel(s) > > If the blanking happens apparently randomly, and manifests as the screen > just suddenly going blank but a keypress or mouse movement making it > come back, then yes, that's the bug we're discussing here. >
Yeah basically.
But only breaks with kernel: kernel-2.6.31-0.103.rc4.git2.fc12.x86_64 Ok on: kernel-2.6.31-0.94.rc4.fc12.x86_64 kernel-firmware-2.6.31-0.103.rc4.git2.fc12.noarch
Different, then (or at least a different manifestation). The 'classic' one is happening on F11, never mind slightly older Rawhide.
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 11:43:37PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2009-07-28 at 23:32 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 09:08:11PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
Here is an older one: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=243022 It got CLOSED WONTFIX.
That's extremely unlikely to have been the same problem,...
My gut feeling is that this is exactly the same problem even if it seems to be currently much more widespread and maybe not the same code on a driver level is directly involved. Something misreads the current activity state and an unwanted power management kicks in. It appears that you need a "lucky" combination of a software and hardware, possibly down to a chipset level, to be affected. Drivers got more "ambitious" and this is easier to trigger. Note also comments 11, 12 and 13 from bug 243022. At the reverse side of that coin screensavers started now to kill a screen power management in toto - see bz #508886 and #509660.
(and seems to be ATI-specific, anyway).
Err..., I do not think so.
Michal
On Wed, 2009-07-29 at 09:43 -0600, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
(and seems to be ATI-specific, anyway).
Err..., I do not think so.
I was talking about the old bug. You reported it against the radeon driver, and the two other people who commented on the bug also had ATI cards.
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