I'm a little confused about all this so please be gentle.
I'm looking for a JRE to use as a plugin for Firefox. In the past I would have just hooked into the jre pluggin supplied with Sun's Java, but since I'm testing the current fedora 4 development and it seems that FC4 intends to do without the need for Sun's Java (I could be wrong) could someone tell me what package I'm supposed to install to get a JRE for firefox (and any other steps I might need to perform).
Rodd
On Tue, February 15, 2005 10:30 pm, Rodd Clarkson said:
I'm a little confused about all this so please be gentle.
I'm looking for a JRE to use as a plugin for Firefox. In the past I would have just hooked into the jre pluggin supplied with Sun's Java, but since I'm testing the current fedora 4 development and it seems that FC4 intends to do without the need for Sun's Java (I could be wrong) could someone tell me what package I'm supposed to install to get a JRE for firefox (and any other steps I might need to perform).
Hi Rodd,
You'll still need to install a Java Runtime for Firefox, and the process is the same as usual. The GNU compiler has improved to a point where many java programs can be compiled and run without needing a proprietary runtime, and that is likely the chatter you've been hearing. However, it's not yet a general replacement for the proprietary JRE's.
Cheers, Sean
ons, 16.02.2005 kl. 05.41 skrev Sean:
On Tue, February 15, 2005 10:30 pm, Rodd Clarkson said:
I'm a little confused about all this so please be gentle.
I'm looking for a JRE to use as a plugin for Firefox. In the past I would have just hooked into the jre pluggin supplied with Sun's Java, but since I'm testing the current fedora 4 development and it seems that FC4 intends to do without the need for Sun's Java (I could be wrong) could someone tell me what package I'm supposed to install to get a JRE for firefox (and any other steps I might need to perform).
Hi Rodd,
You'll still need to install a Java Runtime for Firefox, and the process is the same as usual. The GNU compiler has improved to a point where many java programs can be compiled and run without needing a proprietary runtime, and that is likely the chatter you've been hearing. However, it's not yet a general replacement for the proprietary JRE's.
Cheers, Sean
But will there be any conflict if you have 2 JRE's - Sun's and gcj? Or are gcj just there for "fedora supplied" Java desktop apps?
On Wed, February 16, 2005 10:42 am, Kyrre Ness Sjobak said:
But will there be any conflict if you have 2 JRE's - Sun's and gcj? Or
are gcj just there for "fedora supplied" Java desktop apps?
No conflict at all. At this poing gcj doesn't supply a complete JRE or integration with Firefox (gcjwebplugin is still being developed).
Sean.
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 11:39 -0500, Sean wrote:
On Wed, February 16, 2005 10:42 am, Kyrre Ness Sjobak said:
But will there be any conflict if you have 2 JRE's - Sun's and gcj? Or are gcj just there for "fedora supplied" Java desktop apps?
No conflict at all. At this poing gcj doesn't supply a complete JRE or integration with Firefox (gcjwebplugin is still being developed).
Actually, using the java-1.4.2-gcj4-compat package (which is likely to be installed by default on FC4), gcj will very much look like a complete JRE. I'm not sure about gcjwebplugin though.
As it has been pointed out, jpackage.org is the way to go. Using the alternatives system, you may then easily switch between gcj and Sun's JRE. You'll also get an RPM to install the Firefox plugin when the nosrc.rpm is built.
ons, 16.02.2005 kl. 19.19 skrev Ziga Mahkovec:
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 11:39 -0500, Sean wrote:
On Wed, February 16, 2005 10:42 am, Kyrre Ness Sjobak said:
But will there be any conflict if you have 2 JRE's - Sun's and gcj? Or are gcj just there for "fedora supplied" Java desktop apps?
No conflict at all. At this poing gcj doesn't supply a complete JRE or integration with Firefox (gcjwebplugin is still being developed).
Actually, using the java-1.4.2-gcj4-compat package (which is likely to be installed by default on FC4), gcj will very much look like a complete JRE. I'm not sure about gcjwebplugin though.
As it has been pointed out, jpackage.org is the way to go. Using the alternatives system, you may then easily switch between gcj and Sun's JRE. You'll also get an RPM to install the Firefox plugin when the nosrc.rpm is built.
A bit offtopic, i know, but having some users knowing beforehand means they can answer people directly face2face or in forums, so the net sum of people "whining" about an issue after fc4 release will be fewer :)
How are the SUN JRE (or JDK) installed through jpackage.org? I currently use dag wieers JRE package which works exelent and puts everything where it belongs (not something you can say about sun JRE rpms...) - but what am i supposed to do in fc4? And how is this "jre switching" supposed to be done?
Kyrre
On Wed, 2005-02-16 at 14:30 +1100, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
I'm a little confused about all this so please be gentle.
I'm looking for a JRE to use as a plugin for Firefox. In the past I would have just hooked into the jre pluggin supplied with Sun's Java, but since I'm testing the current fedora 4 development and it seems that FC4 intends to do without the need for Sun's Java (I could be wrong) could someone tell me what package I'm supposed to install to get a JRE for firefox (and any other steps I might need to perform).
If you want a JRE that will be compatible with FC4 then use one of the nosrc.rpm files from http://www.jpackage.org/. The Red Hat Java team are collaborating with the JPackage team so FC4 should work ok.
Keith.
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