1363 smp kernel seem to last a little bit longer before processes hang and had to regress to kernel 1276.
Where do your processes hang?
I can't get mine to allow a login : it boots to a login prompt and freezes ... doesn't matter if I'm in runlevel 1, 3 or 5 ...
It's done this with any FC3 or 4 kernel I've tried ...
If your 1276 is working, what kernel parameters are you passing?
- litz
Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote:
1363 smp kernel seem to last a little bit longer before processes hang and had to regress to kernel 1276.
On Thursday 26 May 2005 19:18, Jonathan Deitch wrote:
Where do your processes hang?
I can't get mine to allow a login : it boots to a login prompt and freezes ... doesn't matter if I'm in runlevel 1, 3 or 5 ...
It's done this with any FC3 or 4 kernel I've tried ...
If your 1276 is working, what kernel parameters are you passing?
- litz
Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote:
1363 smp kernel seem to last a little bit longer before processes hang and had to regress to kernel 1276.
Please supply a bit more information about your system (M/B make/model, cpu, memory, components).
I've used 1303, 1305 and 1312 smp kernels with no problems. Have a gigabyte GA-7DPXDW-P w/athlon 2800MP cpus, 2GB ram, nVidia geforce4 AGP and 2-120GB WD SCSI drives under an Adaptec ASC-29160 controller. Everything runs great right from installation.
Tom
Intel SE7501CW2 dual 1.8 xeon, 512mb memory, IDE hdd w/two 3ware raid cards for mass storage ... it's a "normal" fc4t3 installation, with all available yum updates installed.
It flat out refuses to boot to smp - freezes the instant a login prompt appears whether in single mode, normal multiuser, or X.
I've backtracked kernels all the way to old FC3 kernels, same thing ...
- litz
Thomas Taylor wrote:
On Thursday 26 May 2005 19:18, Jonathan Deitch wrote:
Where do your processes hang?
I can't get mine to allow a login : it boots to a login prompt and freezes ... doesn't matter if I'm in runlevel 1, 3 or 5 ...
It's done this with any FC3 or 4 kernel I've tried ...
If your 1276 is working, what kernel parameters are you passing?
- litz
Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote:
1363 smp kernel seem to last a little bit longer before processes hang and had to regress to kernel 1276.
Please supply a bit more information about your system (M/B make/model, cpu, memory, components).
I've used 1303, 1305 and 1312 smp kernels with no problems. Have a gigabyte GA-7DPXDW-P w/athlon 2800MP cpus, 2GB ram, nVidia geforce4 AGP and 2-120GB WD SCSI drives under an Adaptec ASC-29160 controller. Everything runs great right from installation.
Tom
Ok, followup ...
I've installed from scratch, selecting "server", and allowing all defaults, both FC3 and FC4T3.
Stock, off the CDs, both fail in SMP mode on my motherboard. After installing all available upgrades via "yum upgrade", both still fail ... even the much vaunted new 1363 kernel for 4T3.
FC3 simply does the same thing (all IO ceases the second the kernel inits, so once login arrives it's dead)
FC4T3 sees 3 out of 4 cpus (3 penguins) and instantly reboots.
Anyone got any ideas? I find it absolutely ridiculous that no flavor of Fedora so far works in smp on my motherboard ... :-( Knoppix boots right into smp, no problems whatsoever.
- JD
Jonathan Deitch wrote:
Intel SE7501CW2 dual 1.8 xeon, 512mb memory, IDE hdd w/two 3ware raid cards for mass storage ... it's a "normal" fc4t3 installation, with all available yum updates installed.
It flat out refuses to boot to smp - freezes the instant a login prompt appears whether in single mode, normal multiuser, or X.
I've backtracked kernels all the way to old FC3 kernels, same thing ...
- litz
Thomas Taylor wrote:
On Thursday 26 May 2005 19:18, Jonathan Deitch wrote:
Where do your processes hang?
I can't get mine to allow a login : it boots to a login prompt and freezes ... doesn't matter if I'm in runlevel 1, 3 or 5 ...
It's done this with any FC3 or 4 kernel I've tried ...
If your 1276 is working, what kernel parameters are you passing?
- litz
Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote:
1363 smp kernel seem to last a little bit longer before processes hang and had to regress to kernel 1276.
Please supply a bit more information about your system (M/B make/model, cpu, memory, components).
I've used 1303, 1305 and 1312 smp kernels with no problems. Have a gigabyte GA-7DPXDW-P w/athlon 2800MP cpus, 2GB ram, nVidia geforce4 AGP and 2-120GB WD SCSI drives under an Adaptec ASC-29160 controller. Everything runs great right from installation.
Tom
On 5/28/05, Jonathan Deitch pinball@litz.org wrote:
Anyone got any ideas? I find it absolutely ridiculous that no flavor of Fedora so far works in smp on my motherboard ... :-( Knoppix boots right into smp, no problems whatsoever.
what kernel version is that knoppix cd using? Your issue seems rather 'special' since its happening for both fc3 and the rawhide kernels. Was a bug filed against fc3 at some point about this?
-jef"seems to have the only bulletproof smp box around"spaleta
Knoppix 3.82 uses kernel 2.6.11 ...
I opened a bugzilla for the FC4T3 problem (#159057) but have not opened one for FC3 yet, as I blew away the FC3 install to try a virgin FC4T3 install ... gotta go back and double verify the problem before I go open bugzilla for that.
The weird thing is, the boot process DOES complete - but you have no IO ... only thing I can guess is it's something that isn't interacting with the Intel serverboard chipset properly.
If anyone has ideas on things to test, anything please let me know and I'll give it a whirl.
- JD
Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On 5/28/05, Jonathan Deitch pinball@litz.org wrote:
Anyone got any ideas? I find it absolutely ridiculous that no flavor of Fedora so far works in smp on my motherboard ... :-( Knoppix boots right into smp, no problems whatsoever.
what kernel version is that knoppix cd using? Your issue seems rather 'special' since its happening for both fc3 and the rawhide kernels. Was a bug filed against fc3 at some point about this?
-jef"seems to have the only bulletproof smp box around"spaleta
Bug has been changed to 159082 for this issue
Jonathan Deitch wrote:
Knoppix 3.82 uses kernel 2.6.11 ...
I opened a bugzilla for the FC4T3 problem (#159057) but have not opened one for FC3 yet, as I blew away the FC3 install to try a virgin FC4T3 install ... gotta go back and double verify the problem before I go open bugzilla for that.
The weird thing is, the boot process DOES complete - but you have no IO ... only thing I can guess is it's something that isn't interacting with the Intel serverboard chipset properly.
If anyone has ideas on things to test, anything please let me know and I'll give it a whirl.
- JD
Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On 5/28/05, Jonathan Deitch pinball@litz.org wrote:
Anyone got any ideas? I find it absolutely ridiculous that no flavor of Fedora so far works in smp on my motherboard ... :-( Knoppix boots right into smp, no problems whatsoever.
what kernel version is that knoppix cd using? Your issue seems rather 'special' since its happening for both fc3 and the rawhide kernels. Was a bug filed against fc3 at some point about this?
-jef"seems to have the only bulletproof smp box around"spaleta
Ok, this is even stranger.
I installed a STOCK fc3 system. Same issue.
STOCK fc2 system. Same issue.
Something inherent to Fedora Core is just plain incompatible with this motherboard.
It's not just a 2.6.11 or 2.6.9 kernel that's at fault.
Anyone have any ideas as to how, why, or what I can try to make this work?
If not, I'm going to be forced to leave Redhat entirely and go with another distribution, something I really do not want to do - all my system configurations are tailored for Fedora.
Jonathan Deitch wrote:
Bug has been changed to 159082 for this issue
Jonathan Deitch wrote:
Knoppix 3.82 uses kernel 2.6.11 ...
I opened a bugzilla for the FC4T3 problem (#159057) but have not opened one for FC3 yet, as I blew away the FC3 install to try a virgin FC4T3 install ... gotta go back and double verify the problem before I go open bugzilla for that.
The weird thing is, the boot process DOES complete - but you have no IO ... only thing I can guess is it's something that isn't interacting with the Intel serverboard chipset properly.
If anyone has ideas on things to test, anything please let me know and I'll give it a whirl.
- JD
Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On 5/28/05, Jonathan Deitch pinball@litz.org wrote:
Anyone got any ideas? I find it absolutely ridiculous that no flavor of Fedora so far works in smp on my motherboard ... :-( Knoppix boots right into smp, no problems whatsoever.
what kernel version is that knoppix cd using? Your issue seems rather 'special' since its happening for both fc3 and the rawhide kernels. Was a bug filed against fc3 at some point about this?
-jef"seems to have the only bulletproof smp box around"spaleta
On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 09:59:20PM -0400, Jonathan Deitch wrote:
Ok, this is even stranger.
I installed a STOCK fc3 system. Same issue.
STOCK fc2 system. Same issue.
Something inherent to Fedora Core is just plain incompatible with this motherboard.
It's not just a 2.6.11 or 2.6.9 kernel that's at fault.
Anyone have any ideas as to how, why, or what I can try to make this work?
If not, I'm going to be forced to leave Redhat entirely and go with another distribution, something I really do not want to do - all my system configurations are tailored for Fedora.
Can you try this..
boot the SMP kernel up until it hangs. Reboot. Boot the UP kernel, and then see if the kernel message from the smp kernel are in /var/log/messages If they are, please send them, that may provide clues.
Also, does booting with exec-shield=0 make a difference ?
Dave
Dave Jones wrote:
On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 09:59:20PM -0400, Jonathan Deitch wrote:
Ok, this is even stranger.
I installed a STOCK fc3 system. Same issue.
STOCK fc2 system. Same issue.
Something inherent to Fedora Core is just plain incompatible with this motherboard.
It's not just a 2.6.11 or 2.6.9 kernel that's at fault.
Anyone have any ideas as to how, why, or what I can try to make this work?
If not, I'm going to be forced to leave Redhat entirely and go with another distribution, something I really do not want to do - all my system configurations are tailored for Fedora.
Can you try this..
boot the SMP kernel up until it hangs. Reboot. Boot the UP kernel, and then see if the kernel message from the smp kernel are in /var/log/messages If they are, please send them, that may provide clues.
Also, does booting with exec-shield=0 make a difference ?
Dave
No kernel messages in /var/log/messages.
In fact, there's NOTHING in /var/log/messages at all from the smp boot. It's as if syslog never ran.
Timestamps jump directly from the non-smp reboot prior to the smp test directly to the non-smp startup AFTER the smp test boot.
exec-shield=0 makes no difference at all.
- litz
Jonathan Deitch wrote:
Ok, followup ...
I've installed from scratch, selecting "server", and allowing all defaults, both FC3 and FC4T3.
Stock, off the CDs, both fail in SMP mode on my motherboard. After installing all available upgrades via "yum upgrade", both still fail ... even the much vaunted new 1363 kernel for 4T3.
FC3 simply does the same thing (all IO ceases the second the kernel inits, so once login arrives it's dead)
FC4T3 sees 3 out of 4 cpus (3 penguins) and instantly reboots.
Anyone got any ideas? I find it absolutely ridiculous that no flavor of Fedora so far works in smp on my motherboard ... :-( Knoppix boots right into smp, no problems whatsoever.
- JD
I've got a bunch of SMP boxes running FC3 and FC4T3. Not all SMP boxes are created equal.
I've got a pair of Intel quad P3 Xeon boxes... they work fine, no special stuff needed.
I've got 4 dual P3-1000 machines (Gigabyte motherboards) These things suck. Unless you append acpi=off to the kernel boot string, they randomly reboot, hang, freeze, etc.
And a Compaq DL380, won't run single or dual cpu correctly unless acpi=off is appended to the boot options.
Try turning off acpi, that seems to fix lots of smp issues for me.
Mike,
I've already tried acpi=off, apm=off, noapic, and vdso=0, none have had any effect ...
- Jonathan
Mike Pepe wrote:
Jonathan Deitch wrote:
Ok, followup ...
I've installed from scratch, selecting "server", and allowing all defaults, both FC3 and FC4T3.
Stock, off the CDs, both fail in SMP mode on my motherboard. After installing all available upgrades via "yum upgrade", both still fail ... even the much vaunted new 1363 kernel for 4T3.
FC3 simply does the same thing (all IO ceases the second the kernel inits, so once login arrives it's dead)
FC4T3 sees 3 out of 4 cpus (3 penguins) and instantly reboots.
Anyone got any ideas? I find it absolutely ridiculous that no flavor of Fedora so far works in smp on my motherboard ... :-( Knoppix boots right into smp, no problems whatsoever.
- JD
I've got a bunch of SMP boxes running FC3 and FC4T3. Not all SMP boxes are created equal.
I've got a pair of Intel quad P3 Xeon boxes... they work fine, no special stuff needed.
I've got 4 dual P3-1000 machines (Gigabyte motherboards) These things suck. Unless you append acpi=off to the kernel boot string, they randomly reboot, hang, freeze, etc.
And a Compaq DL380, won't run single or dual cpu correctly unless acpi=off is appended to the boot options.
Try turning off acpi, that seems to fix lots of smp issues for me.
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