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vncserver program disappered on FC32??
by Michael D. Setzer II 30 Dec '20

30 Dec '20

Have two machines running Fedora 32, and just noticed with the latest update of tigervnc-server the vncserver is GONE? Did a downgrade on both machines, and it is back and running just fine. The one machine had rebooted, and therefor wasn't able to load the server. The other machine still had the server running from before the upgrade, so was able to vnc into it. The file from the /usr/bin director was just no longer there. Tried a reinstall, and still no file. Only the downgrade option restored it?? Not sure on how to report this. Didn't notice it until trying to vnc into machine that had rebooted? The dnf whatprovides shows that the program is included, so not sure what kind of error is in the latest update?? Thanks and be Safe... +------------------------------------------------------------+ Michael D. Setzer II - Computer Science Instructor (Retired) mailto:mikes@guam.net mailto:msetzerii@gmail.com Guam - Where America's Day Begins G4L Disk Imaging Project maintainer http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/ +------------------------------------------------------------+

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The (bad) state of Qt on GNOME / Wayland
by mario futire 07 Nov '20

07 Nov '20

I am developing a Qt app in Fedora 31 using the default GNOME wayland session and I am very sorry to see the state of Qt in this configuration. 1) qt creator crashes often (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1773356) the crash report tool does not seem to help 2) drag & drop does not work in Qt creator (and in no other Qt app) (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1774762 and https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-80303) 3) main window geometry cannot be restored when the application restarts (https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-80612) I think GNOME / Wayland / Qt it is just not ready and should not be offered as the default desktop session for Fedora. If I force Qt to use X11 emulations, things are much better. Probably Qt is responsible (but in the bug reports someone says that KDE / Wayland works well), and GNOME is not Qt, but there are so many Qt apps, that sending new users to a non working environment re-enforces the fact that "just works" is not true in Linux. Regards

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how to install zoom client.
by home user 04 Nov '20

04 Nov '20

Good morning, (f-29) (background) Last week, I was to participate in a "Zoom" meeting for a charity that I'm involved in. I have the needed software on my rarely-used windows-7 box. But I could not complete the windows-7 login (some problem with a windows-7 service). I've since found there is a "Zoom" client for Fedora. "dnfdragora" does not find anything for it. But I found a web page that I hope has what I need. I've downloaded the package ("zoom_x86_64.rpm"), and I've downloaded a "Public Key" ("package-signing-key.pub"). The web site from which I've downloaded these also has a line: Key fingerprint: [some 40 hex digit number] (4 questions) 1. Do the 2 files need to be in a specific place to do the install? If yes, where? 2. Do I need to be "root" to do the install? 3. What do I do with the "Key fingerprint"? 4. How do I do the install (preferably using "dnf")? thanks, Bill.

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Firefox stability?
by Max Pyziur 07 Oct '20

07 Oct '20

Greetings, Lately, I've noticed that different tabs that I have open in Firefox are crashing. This seems to have started recently. They can be restored easily, but there's a nuisance factor here. Anyone else? Hardware/Software basic deets: Dell XPS 13 L322X laptop, vintage circa 2013. 1TB Samsung Solid state drive 8GB RAM F32 - everything has been updated Max Pyziur pyz(a)brama.com

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BTRFS compression on install (also external drives)
by Matti Pulkkinen 30 Sep '20

30 Sep '20

Hello! Is there a way in the Fedora 32 installer to set the compression mount option for a new BTRFS filesystem before installing Fedora itself? I know I can add the option to the fstab file after installation, reboot, and then run the defragment command to compress after the fact, but it would be convenient if I could just have the filesystem compressed right away during installation. Also, from what I've read I think I already know the answer to this, but I'll ask to make sure: is it possible to set the compression option persistently in the filesystem itself? It would be nice if I could have an external USB hard drive (with its obvious IO bottleneck) compressed as well. However, it seems like I would then have to always manually mount the drive with the compression option, or set the compression attribute after mounting. Either way, this isn't persistent. I also know I could set the disk's UUID to always be mounted with the compression option, but that is specific to one machine. -- Terveisin / Regards, Matti Pulkkinen

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VM tool for Fedora 32
by S Bob 30 Sep '20

30 Sep '20

All; I'm looking for suggestions for a VM tool for Fedora 32. I am tired of having to constantly patch VMware and have it stop working every time I update to a new kernel. Looking for suggestions. Does KVM run on fedora 32? Can I install a windows VM with KVM? Anyone using other tools? Thanks in advance

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WD Mycloud -
by Bob Goodwin 30 Sep '20

30 Sep '20

I have some JPEG files on a Western Digital My cloud drive that I would like to extract. I regret ever getting involved with it but now I need to get the files off it and the software they provide to do that is for Windows. Has anyone found a way to do this with Fedora, F-32 preferably? Bob -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA FEDORA-32/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3

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DNS lookup bypassing the system settings
by stan 29 Sep '20

29 Sep '20

Hi, There is currently a large thread in devel discussing the implementation of systemd-resolved for resolving DNS. As part of that I read this: > > This is not the reality I live in though. New-style high level > > programming languages tend to avoid being just a wrapper around C > > APIs. And thus they implement minimal DNS clients themselves, > > ignoring the LLMNR, mDNS and so on. > > Not just for DNS. For SMTP, HTTP, etc. > > The modern way of coding apps is minimal marginally-compliant and > secure built-in network client (so things sort of work on the dev > system and in CI/CD unit tests), with the OS interposing a > full-featured protocol proxy in “production” deployments. For me, the implication of that is that I am no longer in control of DNS, etc. If some program has hard coded DNS servers, they bypass everything and just ignore system settings. Am I understanding correctly? If I'm not, great, I'm happy. If I am, though, how do I take back control? I have turned off NetworkManager control of DNS and use a simple caching resolver, knot-resolver. Am I OK, since all DNS access has to go through that resolver, with my configured DNS servers? In particular, I'm thinking about firefox, since as part of that thread it emerged that browsers are including their own DNS clients with things like DOH and DOT. Before I start knot-resolver, firefox cannot reach the web. Is that an indication that it does, in fact, use my DNS resolver?

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Re: Reload kernel?
by J.Witvliet＠mindef.nl 29 Sep '20

29 Sep '20

A reboot does *not fix* anything. From: "ToddAndMargo via users" <users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org<mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org>> Date: Tuesday, 29 September 2020 at 14:24:52 To: "users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org" <users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org<mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org>> Cc: "ToddAndMargo" <ToddAndMargo(a)zoho.com<mailto:ToddAndMargo@zoho.com>> Subject: Re: Reload kernel? On 2020-09-27 04:40, Roger Heflin wrote: > So the gui gets slow, a reboot clears it, does it clear up? GUI and the file system. A reboot fixes it _______________________________________________ users mailing list -- users(a)lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-leave(a)lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Dit bericht kan informatie bevatten die niet voor u is bestemd. Indien u niet de geadresseerde bent of dit bericht abusievelijk aan u is toegezonden, wordt u verzocht dat aan de afzender te melden en het bericht te verwijderen. De Staat aanvaardt geen aansprakelijkheid voor schade, van welke aard ook, die verband houdt met risico's verbonden aan het elektronisch verzenden van berichten. This message may contain information that is not intended for you. If you are not the addressee or if this message was sent to you by mistake, you are requested to inform the sender and delete the message. The State accepts no liability for damage of any kind resulting from the risks inherent in the electronic transmission of messages.

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Re: Fwd: Monitor mode (w. TP-Link WN722N & Fedora)
by Fulko Hew 29 Sep '20

29 Sep '20

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 3:07 PM Samuel Sieb <samuel(a)sieb.net> wrote: > On 9/29/20 10:33 AM, Fulko Hew wrote: > > No, no other thread. In the original email I used iw command to turn > > manage off. > > > > wlp2s0f0u4 wifi unmanaged -- > > > > wlp2s0f0u4 unassociated ESSID:"" Nickname:"<WIFI@REALTEK>" > > Mode:Managed Frequency=2.412 GHz Access Point: > Not-Associated > > > > So now nmcli says it's unmanaged but iwconfig says it IS managed. > > Ok, that is a little confusing. The nmcli "managed" means that > NetworkManger is handling the device. The iwconfig "managed" is > referring to the mode that the wifi device is in. > > > So I also tried both of the following to enable monitor: > > > > [root@localhost fhew]# iw wlp2s0f0u4 set monitor none > > command failed: No such device (-19) > > That can't be the actual command you ran, because it's not valid. > You're missing a "dev". > I hear what you're saying, and yes, the man page says you should have a 'dev' in there, but that doesn't make any difference" [root@localhost fhew]# iw dev wlp2s0f0u4 set monitor none command failed: No such device (-19) > > [root@localhost fhew]# iwconfig wlp2s0f0u4 mode monitor > > Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) : > > SET failed on device wlp2s0f0u4 ; Invalid argument. > > > > and neither worked. So I'm back to thinking it's a driver issue. > > Yes, that seems very likely to be the reason for both those commands > failing. > Where to look next ? I started this journey with a variety of web pages such as this one: https://www.hackster.io/thatiotguy/enable-monitor-mode-in-tp-link-tl-wn722n… I'm not wedded to this USB adapter, I'd like to know which one would actually work in monitor mode, out of the box, with Fedora supplied drivers. > P.S. Looking at the newer Wireshark, I still didn't see a 'monitor' > > button. Perhaps it's because the wi-fi driver isn't supporting it? > > When you open the capture options dialog, you might need to scroll to > the right to see the monitor checkbox. Nope, I tried sending a screen shot, but the mailing list is holding my message for moderation. There is a column in the table entitled Monitor Mode, but it's filled in with dashes.

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