On 2 April 2014 12:01, Vikram Goyal vikigoyal@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 04:40:36PM +0000, Liam Proven wrote:
As I have said previously, I have /never/ successfully installed Fedora on actual hardware since v1.0 shipped in, what was it, 2003? I have installed Haiku, Aros, FreeBSD, PC BSD, dozens of Linux distros, Windows 2 through 8, SCO Xenix, SCO Unix, OpenSolaris, OpenVMS, FreeDOS, DR-DOS, MS-DOS, PC-DOS, OS/2 1 through eComStation 2, MacOS 6 through OS X 10.9. I am *not* a newbie and I am *not* an inexperienced inexpert fumbler.
That is toooo broad a statement. The serious problem with the UI only began with F19/20 but which we users expect will get sorted out in due time ( I hope ) but there was not such a serious UI installer problem with other Fedora's. As a very old Redhat/Fedora user, I totally disagree with you to the point that your other claims also get tainted negatively.
I too am a "very old Red Hat user" - like you, I started in the mid-1990s. I have successfully used -- and reviewed in print -- Red Hat 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9, plus I've also worked with CentOS 4, 5 and 6. The first Linux distro I tried was Slackware and the first that I successfully installed was Lasermoon Linux-FT, the first LiveCD, with an innovative mechanism of caching the decompressed contents of the compressed files from the CD on the hard disk until you had a full system installed.
I remember the hoo-ha when Linux 2.0 shipped. Heck, I remember Linux 1.0 being released, although I wasn't using it back then -- in those days, I was a SCO man.
It is just Fedora I've had such consistent problems with. I haven't tried it since about F17 so I am happy to take your word that the partitioner issues are new. However, other issues prevented me getting working installs on the previous versions. As I've said before, no, I have not tried _all_ of them - I tend to come back for a fresh look every 2-3 years.
I've had problems with lots of distros! Debian used to be a horror to install; Slackware and FreeBSD still are. Mandrake once wiped all the partitions and all the other distros off a testbed PC. Gentoo compiled for 2-3 straight days and failed to build a working system, and its famed customisability did not extend to, say, letting me choose my preferred init system.
The first distro I adopted full-time was Caldera OpenLinux; later I switched to SuSE, and from SuSE to Ubuntu, which has been my main OS since 2004 except for periods of Mac use. I also try out each new version of Windows when released for about 2 months, before switching back to Unix with a sigh of relief.