hello,
I am sorry to ask this here but am wondering why the last couple of times I have installed Fedora 32 workstation, video playback in Firefox is not working out of the box for some sites. So I can play videos on youtube, but for example, trying to play a video in cnn.com ("something went wrong during native playback") does not work, or playing some video from Twitter("media could not be played") does not work either.
Am I missing the Flash Player? What am I missing here?
thank you,
On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 08:06:47 -0500 Anil Felipe Duggirala anilduggirala@fastmail.fm wrote:
I am sorry to ask this here but am wondering why the last couple of times I have installed Fedora 32 workstation, video playback in Firefox is not working out of the box for some sites. So I can play videos on youtube, but for example, trying to play a video in cnn.com ("something went wrong during native playback") does not work, or playing some video from Twitter("media could not be played") does not work either.
Am I missing the Flash Player? What am I missing here?
I think this will be a permissions problem. Firefox has been locking their browser down more and more. That is great for privacy and system security, but can create problems with content, if a site is using a third party's content and player.
Another thing that can cause this is add-ons. Try creating a new user, and see if that user has problems. /usr/bin/firefox --new-instance --ProfileManager will allow you to create test users with their own pristine profile.
For any real help, you would have to give a sample link or two where this occurs.
I think this will be a permissions problem.
When you say permissions, what permissions do you mean exactly? Like user permissions in my local machine? or like permissions for websites to execute certain types of code?
Another thing that can cause this is add-ons. Try creating a new user, and see if that user has problems. /usr/bin/firefox --new-instance --ProfileManager will allow you to create test users with their own pristine profile.
Ok. I will try this. But the thing is, this is happening on a default Fedora, Firefox installation. This should be happening to any new user who installs Fedora Workstation 32, as far as I can see.
For any real help, you would have to give a sample link or two where this occurs.
The issue is occurring with a variety of sites. I do believe it happens when the player is native (I think that means it is the site's player). In these links you can see a couple of examples of sites and errors I am getting.
https://pasteboard.co/JjkcW42.png%C2%A0%C2%A0 (actually in this url, for example, the included Twitter posts (pictures) are not being shown. )
https://pasteboard.co/Jjkfl0W.png
So I suspect it is some kind of security issue with playing or even displaying media content on websites.
Thank you,
On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 14:11:58 -0500 Anil Felipe Duggirala anilduggirala@fastmail.fm wrote:
or like permissions for websites to execute certain types of code?
This.
Ok. I will try this. But the thing is, this is happening on a default Fedora, Firefox installation. This should be happening to any new user who installs Fedora Workstation 32, as far as I can see.
No need to try it, you will have no add-ons installed.
The issue is occurring with a variety of sites. I do believe it happens when the player is native (I think that means it is the site's player). In these links you can see a couple of examples of sites and errors I am getting.
https://pasteboard.co/JjkcW42.png%C2%A0%C2%A0(actually in this url, for example, the included Twitter posts (pictures) are not being shown. )
https://pasteboard.co/Jjkfl0W.png
So I suspect it is some kind of security issue with playing or even displaying media content on websites.
I would agree. The links you gave indicate the problem, but they aren't clickable, so someone can't just try them, they have to type the URL from the photo.
I don't have a twitter account, so I won't be able to check that one with my firefox. But, I was able to play the rt video in firefox after I allowed javascript on some third party sites, one of which seemed to be a media player (I use noscript, so I see the sites that have javascript blocked).
I wonder if the stock firefox in fedora is preventing third party javascript by default?
If you don't get satisfaction here, you could also try asking at mozilla.org, the developers of firefox.
On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 7:07 AM Anil Felipe Duggirala anilduggirala@fastmail.fm wrote:
I am sorry to ask this here but am wondering why the last couple of times I have installed Fedora 32 workstation, video playback in Firefox is not working out of the box for some sites. So I can play videos on youtube, but for example, trying to play a video in cnn.com ("something went wrong during native playback") does not work, or playing some video from Twitter("media could not be played") does not work either.
Am I missing the Flash Player? What am I missing here?
Do you have ffmpeg installed? It is not available from Fedora for license reasons, but you can get it from rpmfusion.
On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 14:34:55 -0600 Jerry James loganjerry@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 7:07 AM Anil Felipe Duggirala anilduggirala@fastmail.fm wrote:
Am I missing the Flash Player? What am I missing here?
Do you have ffmpeg installed? It is not available from Fedora for license reasons, but you can get it from rpmfusion.
Jerry raises a good point. Fedora, by design, does not include any packages that are patent or license encumbered. So, if the codec being used by the videos that you are trying to watch is proprietary (say h264), then it will not be included in Fedora. Does this mean that Fedora users wear hair shirts, and don't watch such videos? :-) No. There are repositories that package such software for Fedora, but usually in jurisdictions where it is legal to do so. Thus rpmfusion.org (and others).
If you go to rpmfusion, https://rpmfusion.org/ and look at the packages there, you will find ffmpeg as Jerry suggested, but you will also find versions of other packages that use patent and licensed encumbered software. ffmpeg is the engine behind many video and audio programs such as vlc, mplayer, audacity, audacious, etc. It is also at rpmfusion that the proprietary nvidia driver is packaged for fedora.
On 7/26/20 10:42 AM, stan via users wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2020 14:34:55 -0600 Jerry James loganjerry@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 7:07 AM Anil Felipe Duggirala anilduggirala@fastmail.fm wrote:
Am I missing the Flash Player? What am I missing here?
Do you have ffmpeg installed? It is not available from Fedora for license reasons, but you can get it from rpmfusion.
Jerry raises a good point. Fedora, by design, does not include any packages that are patent or license encumbered. So, if the codec being used by the videos that you are trying to watch is proprietary (say h264), then it will not be included in Fedora. Does this mean that Fedora users wear hair shirts, and don't watch such videos? :-) No. There are repositories that package such software for Fedora, but usually in jurisdictions where it is legal to do so. Thus rpmfusion.org (and others).
Actually, there's openh264 available in Fedora (by default?) for use in Firefox to play h264 videos.
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 1:11 PM Samuel Sieb samuel@sieb.net wrote:
Actually, there's openh264 available in Fedora (by default?) for use in Firefox to play h264 videos.
The repo is enabled by default starting in Fedora 32, but the Firefox plugin is not. If you want to use it, open the Firefox menu and choose "Add-ons". Choose the "Plugins" tab. You'll see the OpenH264 Video Codec plugin, but it is disabled. Select it and change "Never Activate" to "Always Activate".
See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/OpenH264 for more information.
On 7/26/20 2:23 PM, Jerry James wrote:
The repo is enabled by default starting in Fedora 32, but the Firefox plugin is not. If you want to use it, open the Firefox menu and choose "Add-ons". Choose the "Plugins" tab. You'll see the OpenH264 Video Codec plugin, but it is disabled. Select it and change "Never Activate" to "Always Activate".
Ok. I have tried this, with no avail. It was set to Never Activate and I set it to Always activate. I have installed the Fedora package for H264. I am a bit baffled by this. Specially because it only started happening with my latest installation of Firefox (in Fedora W 32).
I will test with other and more sites and see if I find any more hints.
thank you very much.
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 3:25 PM Anil Felipe Duggirala anilduggirala@fastmail.fm wrote:
Ok. I have tried this, with no avail. It was set to Never Activate and I set it to Always activate. I have installed the Fedora package for H264. I am a bit baffled by this. Specially because it only started happening with my latest installation of Firefox (in Fedora W 32).
I will test with other and more sites and see if I find any more hints.
Have you installed ffmpeg? See upthread.
On 2020-07-27 05:37, Jerry James wrote:
On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 3:25 PM Anil Felipe Duggirala anilduggirala@fastmail.fm wrote:
Ok. I have tried this, with no avail. It was set to Never Activate and I set it to Always activate. I have installed the Fedora package for H264. I am a bit baffled by this. Specially because it only started happening with my latest installation of Firefox (in Fedora W 32).
I will test with other and more sites and see if I find any more hints.
Have you installed ffmpeg? See upthread.
Maybe the OP is not familiar with rpmfusion? It may be helpful to tell him he can enable rpmfusion repos by the command (all on one line)
sudo dnf install https://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm https://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(r... -E %fedora).noarch.rpm
And then
dnf install ffmpeg
This will allow the embedded play (jwplay) of the site rt.com (Russian Television) to work.
On 7/26/20 5:41 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2020-07-27 05:37, Jerry James wrote:
Have you installed ffmpeg? See upthread.
Maybe the OP is not familiar with rpmfusion? It may be helpful to tell him he can enable rpmfusion repos by the command (all on one line)
sudo dnf install https://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm https://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(r... -E %fedora).noarch.rpm
And then
dnf install ffmpeg
This will allow the embedded play (jwplay) of the site rt.com (Russian Television) to work.
Thank you. I will try to install ffmpeg as you propose. I have just never had to install ffmpeg before to get this type of thing to work.
I am aware of rpmfusion, I was just trying to avoid installing any extra repositories in my system, since I want to keep it as stable as possible for my work tasks.
thank you again.
On 2020-07-27 21:43, Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote:
On 7/26/20 5:41 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 2020-07-27 05:37, Jerry James wrote:
Have you installed ffmpeg? See upthread.
Maybe the OP is not familiar with rpmfusion? It may be helpful to tell him he can enable rpmfusion repos by the command (all on one line)
sudo dnf install https://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm https://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(r... -E %fedora).noarch.rpm
And then
dnf install ffmpeg
This will allow the embedded play (jwplay) of the site rt.com (Russian Television) to work.
Thank you. I will try to install ffmpeg as you propose. I have just never had to install ffmpeg before to get this type of thing to work.
I am aware of rpmfusion, I was just trying to avoid installing any extra repositories in my system, since I want to keep it as stable as possible for my work tasks.
thank you again.
Well, I did verify that even the FF downloaded from mozilla requires ffmpeg in order to play the video when the embedded JW Player is served by the website.
Also, in the years I've used rpmfusion to add functionality I've not experienced any instability caused by it.
Well, I did verify that even the FF downloaded from mozilla requires ffmpeg in order to play the video when the embedded JW Player is served by the website.
I don't believe that this is an issue with required plugins at this point. As a new example, the video in https://www.iceni.com/transpdf.htm (screenshot https://pasteboard.co/JjDtMduG.png), does not load in my Firefox. However, using the developer tools in Firefox, I downloaded the embedded video (.mp4) from the link I saw in the Inspector. I was able to play this downloaded video in the default video player in Fedora with Gnome.
So I would appreciate if someone tells me if this means that this is not a codec issue, but maybe some permissions issue or something else thats happening with Firefox,
thank you!
On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 15:08:32 -0500 Anil Felipe Duggirala anilduggirala@fastmail.fm wrote:
I don't believe that this is an issue with required plugins at this point. As a new example, the video in https://www.iceni.com/transpdf.htm (screenshot
So I would appreciate if someone tells me if this means that this is not a codec issue, but maybe some permissions issue or something else thats happening with Firefox,
That video plays without issue here in both the system version of firefox, 78.02, and the firefox nightly I usually run. In fact, it plays without the website even having javascript enabled. The only relevant add on is open264, though I do have lots of audio and video packages installed from rpmfusion because I also build mplayer from source. I'm not a good tester for your issue, just a data point indicating that it is possible.
Have you checked in edit->preferences for anything related, particularly privacy and security?
On 2020-07-28 04:08, Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote:
Well, I did verify that even the FF downloaded from mozilla requires ffmpeg in order to play the video when the embedded JW Player is served by the website.
I don't believe that this is an issue with required plugins at this point. As a new example, the video in https://www.iceni.com/transpdf.htm (screenshot https://pasteboard.co/JjDtMduG.png), does not load in my Firefox. However, using the developer tools in Firefox, I downloaded the embedded video (.mp4) from the link I saw in the Inspector. I was able to play this downloaded video in the default video player in Fedora with Gnome.
So I would appreciate if someone tells me if this means that this is not a codec issue, but maybe some permissions issue or something else thats happening with Firefox,
thank you!
Plays fine here on a Virtual Machine and FF to which only the open264 plugin was installed/enabled and ffmpeg was installed. The VM is pretty much standard Fedora 32 with no additional video stuff installed. Disabling the open264 plugin has no effect. The video plays fine.
On 2020-07-28 04:08, Anil Felipe Duggirala wrote:
Well, I did verify that even the FF downloaded from mozilla requires ffmpeg in order to play the video when the embedded JW Player is served by the website.
I don't believe that this is an issue with required plugins at this point. As a new example, the video in https://www.iceni.com/transpdf.htm (screenshot https://pasteboard.co/JjDtMduG.png), does not load in my Firefox. However, using the developer tools in Firefox, I downloaded the embedded video (.mp4) from the link I saw in the Inspector. I was able to play this downloaded video in the default video player in Fedora with Gnome.
So I would appreciate if someone tells me if this means that this is not a codec issue, but maybe some permissions issue or something else thats happening with Firefox,
FWIW, I have fired up another VM which is 100% stock Fedora 32. The open264 plugin is disabled and there is no ffmpeg installed. Result it that the video does not play.
If I were to add rpmfusion and install ffmpeg I am sure it will work.
So, have you installed ffmpeg? If not, then I can't be of any more assistance.
Let's just be transparent,
Fedora does not play p*** out of the box
We could try to just say, "certain videos," as a way to cover the whole gammet of issues.
I installed Fedora 32 workstation, and didn't find VLC player, like I don't know *linuxOS that after installing didn't have VLC... I use add-ons like htmal5 player, youtube enhenser & play on VLC, but I always use same settings I Firefox, like clear "after I close delete cookies... and I have Firefox account... So I just need to set up master password... Like I find for some Linux game gnash player... (like active X fl
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________________________________ From: David dlocklear01@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 5:40:29 AM To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: video in Firefox not streaming
Let's just be transparent,
Fedora does not play p*** out of the box
We could try to just say, "certain videos," as a way to cover the whole gammet of issues.
I installed Fedora 32 workstation, and didn't find VLC player, like I don't know *linuxOS that after installing didn't have VLC... I use add-ons like htmal5 player, youtube enhenser & play on VLC, but I always use same settings I Firefox, like clear "after I close delete cookies..." and I have Firefox account... So I just need just to set up master password... Like I find for some Linux game gnash player... (like active X flash player, or so, for playing flash player games) and I have friends, that work on making web sites or security for all ready existing www*
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________________________________ From: David dlocklear01@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2020 5:40:29 AM To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject: Re: video in Firefox not streaming
Let's just be transparent,
Fedora does not play p*** out of the box
We could try to just say, "certain videos," as a way to cover the whole gammet of issues.
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