cloud February 2010

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"default virt server"
by Colin Walters 14 Mar '10

14 Mar '10

Hi, Continuing the discussion from: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-February/131318.html I am looking at: http://github.com/huff/kickstart-stuff/blob/master/fedora-ec2-min.ks In the big picture I think we need to tease apart a few different concepts: * Stuff generic to fully automating creating a small-ish server skeleton accessible over ssh (target case: virt-install) * Stuff specific to EC2 * "Minimization" - For example, removing localization Let me reattach my proposed file here. Also, I would really like to have this be an Official Fedora Spin, by which I mean, you guys can't keep disabling SELinux. And it should be hosted in spin-kickstarts. Other random stuff: * Why acpid explicitly? Kill it, kill it dead.

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Request from FESCo
by Garrett Holmstrom 26 Feb '10

26 Feb '10

Hi folks, At Tuesday's meeting FESCo requested that we contact various VPS providers that don't offer recent versions of Fedora with nicely-worded emails that ask them to consider offering F12. Ideally they would like some sort of "Contact VPS Provider" SOP, but for now perhaps we can come up with a plan to gently nudge them toward using the images we provide once we have them available. Any thoughts? Suggestions? The relevant part of the FESCo meeting transcript follows. -- (15:15:07) nirik: fes ticket 1 Investigate Fedora versions in VPS providers - mmcgrath did this. The major providers do offer Fedora 12. (15:15:16) notting: any ideas for how to promote this more? (15:15:17) gholms: Amazon doesn't. (15:15:21) dgilmore: people should only take tasks they are capable of (15:15:32) nirik: gholms: yeah, noted. being worked on. (15:15:50) nirik: fes ticket 2: SIGs roundup and pinging - jds2001 is working on this. (15:16:18) nirik: fes ticket 3: Fedora as Android Development platform - mmcgrath was going to look at this. (15:16:28) Kevin_Kofler: Linode has only F11. :-( (15:16:53) nirik: Kevin_Kofler: yeah, at least it's a supported release currently. (15:16:54) Kevin_Kofler: You can upload any arbitrary VM image yourself, but they don't have F12 as a premade offering. (15:17:18) nirik: we could send them a nicely worded email asking them to provide a f12 instance. (15:17:46) nirik: and/or pass this info off to the cloud-sig to do so. (15:17:54) gholms: Should I bring that up at the cloud-sig meeting? (15:18:19) dgilmore: i thought we were working on creating ec2 images as part of the f13 release process (15:18:36) dgilmore: so while it sucks that there is not f12 images (15:18:39) gholms: We are; it's still a work in progress. (15:18:43) nirik: gholms: please do. Perhaps a "contact VPS provider" SOP could come out of it? (15:18:48) dgilmore: going forward we will upload official images (15:19:17) gholms: I'm a bit concerned about the sheer number of VPSs out there. (15:19:28) gholms: Who do we contact, whose image formats do we supply, etc. (15:19:38) ***nirik notes these are the kind of proactive things I would like to see happen more rather than just us reacting to exising things. (15:20:07) nirik: gholms: sure, it's a open question... but I think we could open a dialog with them... and/or see what the cloud sig can do. (15:20:38) gholms: How do we initiate such a dialog? (15:20:46) nirik: so, do we add more tickets and advertise? who adds tickets? anyone in fesco? anyone? (15:21:11) gholms: (Sorry for straying off-topic; I'll wait for open floor) (15:22:14) nirik: gholms: a nicely worded email to start with I would say? "Dear VPS provider, we noticed you provide Fedora 10 and 9, those releases are end of life. Would you consider offering F12? Would you like assistance in making an image for your needs? we have a f12 image in format X,Y,Z available. Please contact cloud-sig@ if you have questions" (15:22:34) ajax: (i'm adding some ideas to the fes trac. typing is slow.)

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Meeting for tomorrow -- reschedule/postpone?
by Greg DeKoenigsberg 24 Feb '10

24 Feb '10

I will be travelling during our scheduled meeting for tomorrow. I recommend that we postpone our meeting until next Thursday, and in the meantime, take 10 minutes to send an email update of the current EC2 issues to the list. Is this acceptable to everyone? --g -- Educational materials should be high-quality, collaborative, and free. Visit http://opensource.com/education and join the conversation.

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Eucalyptus
by graziano obertelli 22 Feb '10

22 Feb '10

Hello, as you may know (or know now :)), Eucalyptus is in freeze for a 1.6.2 release schedule by the end of the month, or the beginning of March, but we would like to make an attempt to have packages for Fedora too for our next release. As mentioned before, we already have a spec file, which produces packages not good enough to be integrated in Fedora, but this will give us a head start to flushing out the installation procedure on Fedora as well as finding how to configure it properly. I would love for comments on how to make things better on Fedora, and in order to do that, we have a source tree available on launchpad for 1.6.2. Problem is that, for now, I'll be working on a private branch which I'll merge if our Q&A will give the green light on the packages: if there is interests in seeing it, I'm more than happy to publish it where is convenient for Fedora. Is there interest for it? Is there a preference of where to put the code? Also, if someone is working on axis2c, axis2 and/or rampartc, I'll be more than happy to use those packages too. The timeline is a bit tight for us, so forgive me if I will make stupid question, which may be answereed but some directed google search. The first one of which is this one: so far we used xen as the hypervisor of choice on CentOS (and RHEL), but I know that now both are included in Fedora. Which one is the preferred one? Which one should be the Eucalyputs default? cheers, graziano -- Graziano Obertelli Eucalyptus Systems, Inc. 130 Castilian St. Goleta, CA 93117 Office: 805-845-8000 www.eucalyptus.com

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A belated meeting reminder...
by Greg DeKoenigsberg 18 Feb '10

18 Feb '10

...weekly Fedora Cloud meeting, #fedora-cloud on irc.freenode.net, in about 15 minutes. Updates on where the current Fedora-on-EC2 efforts stand. --g -- Educational materials should be high-quality, collaborative, and free. Visit http://opensource.com/education and join the conversation.

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Reminder: meeting on #fedora-cloud
by Greg DeKoenigsberg 11 Feb '10

11 Feb '10

...in approximately two hours. 1600 Eastern US Time. In the absence of an agenda per se, here's the list of TODOs we compiled during our last meeting: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FedoraOnEC2#Open_Action_Items So we'll give an update on these, and then leave the floor open for discussion. --g -- Educational materials should be high-quality, collaborative, and free. Visit http://opensource.com/education and join the conversation.

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Today's meeting
by David Huff 11 Feb '10

11 Feb '10

unfortunately I will not be able to attend today's meeting, due to a funeral. -D

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IBM Cloud
by Mike McGrath 11 Feb '10

11 Feb '10

How are we going to get Fedora available as an option on http://www.ibm.com/cloud/ Free guests for 30 days is pretty neat, I've got one provisioning now. -Mike

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Red Hat Cloud Forum Tomorrow (2010-02-10)
by John Poelstra 10 Feb '10

10 Feb '10

This free event might be of interest to folks as we think about what we want to do in Fedora in terms of tools or projects we might want to use. http://www.redhat.com/cloudcomputingforum/ John

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Fedora-EC2-min.ks
by David Huff 10 Feb '10

10 Feb '10

Ok, as promised here is a first pass at a base ks file for the Fedora EC2 image. I went with AOS as base and added a couple packages. Total size is ~ 425M w/ 164 packages on a 650M disk image*. http://github.com/huff/kickstart-stuff/blob/master/fedora-ec2-min.ks The image has dhcp, selinux, yum, openssh, and couple other packages necessary to launch an ec2 instance, log in remotely, and add additional packages and configuration(a base usecase for testing an ec2 image). This ks file writes a custom fstab compatible w/ the ec2 infrastructure, adds the ssh key stuff to rc.local, and enables sshd for remote long in. It also creates an initrd image and moves it plus the vmlinuz image outside of the images to be bundled and uploaded separately after image creation. I went this route so you build all three images at once for consistency. Workflow to build images.... 1. download ks file 2. mkdir ./include 3. run appliance-creator** -c Fedora-EC2-min.ks -i ./include -p tar.gz -o /out/put/dir 4. rm ./include This will produce a tarball with three images, rawdisk image, vmlinuz, and initrd.img. Workflow for the whole process would be something like this...... 1. run appliance-creator to build images(above) a. bundle ramdisk + kernel b. upload ramdisk + kernel c. register ramdisk + kernel to get aki and ari numbers 2. bundle AMI a. include aki and ari numbers form above 3. upload AMI 4. register AMI 5. make public This has not be really tested, as the kernels are not available to launch an image, comments/suggestions welcome -D * The stock image may get small as I am currently working with the fedora spin guys on a smaller Fedroa-min.ks and hope to merge the aos.ks with that. ** There are currently a couple bugs in AC which may throw errors in F12, look for a new package in updates-testing soon!! or ping me for a workaround.

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