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Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2022-02-23
by Dusty Mabe 24 Feb '22

24 Feb '22

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2022-02-23/fedora_coreos… Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2022-02-23/fedora_coreos… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2022-02-23/fedora_coreos… ======================================== #fedora-meeting-1: fedora_coreos_meeting ======================================== Meeting started by dustymabe at 16:29:31 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2022-02-23/fedora_coreos… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (dustymabe, 16:29:37) * Action items from last meeting (dustymabe, 16:33:40) * jlebon opened https://github.com/coreos/rpm-ostree/issues/3465 (jlebon, 16:34:06) * jlebon started email draft in https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1106#issuecomment-10… (jlebon, 16:34:33) * dustymabe opened a ticket to discuss podmanv4 coming to FCOS in F36 https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1106 (dustymabe, 16:34:59) * ACTION: ravanelli to look into the F36 changes 127 to see if this change affects us on ppc64le (dustymabe, 16:37:41) * RFC: A new continuous mechanical FCOS stream (dustymabe, 16:38:13) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/910 (dustymabe, 16:38:18) * AGREED: While we see value in a continuous stream we aren't wholly convinced the benefits qualify adding another stream at this point. We'd like to continue discussion in the ticket and collect examples of issues we think would have been caught by a continuous stream before landing in testing-devel. (dustymabe, 17:05:35) * tracker: Fedora 36 changes considerations (dustymabe, 17:06:00) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/918 (dustymabe, 17:06:05) * tracker: This Month in Fedora CoreOS February 2022 (dustymabe, 17:08:10) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1107 (dustymabe, 17:08:16) * open floor (dustymabe, 17:11:44) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/zincati/issues/539 (dustymabe, 17:14:23) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/coreos-installer/issues/792 (bgilbert, 17:17:41) Meeting ended at 17:30:02 UTC. Action Items ------------ * ravanelli to look into the F36 changes 127 to see if this change affects us on ppc64le Action Items, by person ----------------------- * ravanelli * ravanelli to look into the F36 changes 127 to see if this change affects us on ppc64le * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * dustymabe (90) * jlebon (41) * zodbot (31) * bgilbert (24) * travier (11) * miabbott (10) * fifofonix_ (8) * lucab (5) * jaimelm (4) * saqali (2) * jmarrero (2) * ravanelli (1) * jbrooks (1) * gursewak (0) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting
by dusty＠dustymabe.com 22 Feb '22

22 Feb '22

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting on 2022-02-23 from 16:30:00 to 17:30:00 UTC At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.libera.chat The meeting will be about: This is the meeting for the Fedora CoreOS Working Group. We typically go over previous meeting action items and then cover all tickets with the meeting keyword: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/labels/meeting. For how to run the meeting, see https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker#steps-to-run-the-meeting Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/9437/

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Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2022-02-16
by Dusty Mabe 16 Feb '22

16 Feb '22

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2022-02-16/fedora_coreos… Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2022-02-16/fedora_coreos… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2022-02-16/fedora_coreos… ======================================== #fedora-meeting-1: fedora_coreos_meeting ======================================== Meeting started by dustymabe at 16:30:22 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2022-02-16/fedora_coreos… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (dustymabe, 16:30:27) * Action items from last meeting (dustymabe, 16:34:25) * dustymabe opened ticket for DNSoverTLS tracking: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1098 (dustymabe, 16:35:17) * dustymabe opened ticket for investigation of missing packages affecting auto updates: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1099 (dustymabe, 16:35:24) * miabbott opened ticket for Golang 1.18 testing https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1096 (miabbott, 16:35:39) * ACTION: jlebon to open issue to investigate "102 Introduce module Obsoletes and EOL" (dustymabe, 16:36:57) * cverna is trying to get started a "This month in Fedora CoreOS newsletter" --> https://hackmd.io/fITa6rtNTy6Ub1WO4nkdnw (cverna, 16:37:08) * Add factory reset capability (dustymabe, 16:38:59) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/399 (dustymabe, 16:39:08) * AGREED: For our factory reset capability we'll use kexec and initially require either network access or local copies of the install media to exist. In the future we may generate intall media from the existing system. We also will limit our scope to just re-installing FCOS on FCOS and disallow/discourage running it from other distros. (dustymabe, 17:04:26) * tracker: Fedora 36 changes considerations (dustymabe, 17:04:44) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/918 (dustymabe, 17:05:15) * ACTION: ravanelli to look into the F36 changes 127 to see if this change affects us on ppc64le (dustymabe, 17:09:39) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1070 (dustymabe, 17:17:43) * ACTION: dustymabe to create a f36 changes ticket for podman 4.0 investigation/announcement (dustymabe, 17:20:45) * podman v4.0, Fedora 35 and CoreOS (dustymabe, 17:21:27) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1070 (dustymabe, 17:21:32) * ACTION: jlebon to send out an announcement about podmanv4 coming to F36 and the beta coming to next in the coming weeks (dustymabe, 17:35:48) * AGREED: It would be nice if we could have podman 3 and 4 co-installable in F35 so users and podman-machine could use our more stable streams with podman v4. However, there is definitely some work left to do there. If that work doesn't get done and if the podman team is happy with their users being on `next` when the F36 beta lands then that may be the approach that wins. (dustymabe, 17:37:34) * open floor (dustymabe, 17:37:44) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1093 > Has anyone submitted a talk? (travier, 17:38:26) Meeting ended at 17:41:32 UTC. Action Items ------------ * jlebon to open issue to investigate "102 Introduce module Obsoletes and EOL" * ravanelli to look into the F36 changes 127 to see if this change affects us on ppc64le * dustymabe to create a f36 changes ticket for podman 4.0 investigation/announcement * jlebon to send out an announcement about podmanv4 coming to F36 and the beta coming to next in the coming weeks Action Items, by person ----------------------- * dustymabe * dustymabe to create a f36 changes ticket for podman 4.0 investigation/announcement * jlebon * jlebon to open issue to investigate "102 Introduce module Obsoletes and EOL" * jlebon to send out an announcement about podmanv4 coming to F36 and the beta coming to next in the coming weeks * ravanelli * ravanelli to look into the F36 changes 127 to see if this change affects us on ppc64le * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * dustymabe (128) * travier (50) * jlebon (50) * zodbot (23) * cverna (6) * miabbott (4) * jaimelm (4) * ravanelli (3) * jbrooks (3) * lucab (3) * copperi[m] (2) * aaradhak[m] (1) * mnguyen_ (1) * walters (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting
by dusty＠dustymabe.com 15 Feb '22

15 Feb '22

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting on 2022-02-16 from 16:30:00 to 17:30:00 UTC At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.libera.chat The meeting will be about: This is the meeting for the Fedora CoreOS Working Group. We typically go over previous meeting action items and then cover all tickets with the meeting keyword: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/labels/meeting. For how to run the meeting, see https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker#steps-to-run-the-meeting Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/9437/

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Fedora CoreOS Pre-Meeting tomorrow: discuss Fedora 36 changes
by Dusty Mabe 09 Feb '22

09 Feb '22

Since the list of Fedora 36 changes is rather large we are going to have a "pre-meeting" tomorrow. The goal is to try to identify and remove from consideration changes that don't affect FCOS. We will also have the regularly scheduled meeting where we will talk about changes that aren't so obviously innocuous. All are welcome to attend: Time: 15:30 UTC (one hour before community meeting) on Wednesday February 9th Location: #fedora-meeting-2 on libera.chat Agenda/Notes: https://hackmd.io/kyMDKu25T76xAsUaSjMzHQ?view Dusty

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Fedora CoreOS Meeting Minutes 2022-02-09
by Dusty Mabe 09 Feb '22

09 Feb '22

Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2022-02-09/fedora_coreos… Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2022-02-09/fedora_coreos… Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2022-02-09/fedora_coreos… ======================================== #fedora-meeting-1: fedora_coreos_meeting ======================================== Meeting started by dustymabe at 16:30:01 UTC. The full logs are available at https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2022-02-09/fedora_coreos… . Meeting summary --------------- * roll call (dustymabe, 16:30:08) * Action items from last meeting (dustymabe, 16:33:52) * Actually move iptables to the nft backend (dustymabe, 16:35:14) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/676 (dustymabe, 16:35:21) * AGREED: To make it easier to understand and easier to rollout we will couple the conversion to iptables-nft with the rebase to F36. This means the notice period window will be shorter than initially discussed. (dustymabe, 16:44:14) * networking: consider the effects of BOOTIF kernel argument on nm-initrd-generator (dustymabe, 16:44:33) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1048 (dustymabe, 16:44:40) * AGREED: We will try to address the BOOTIF issue by updating our "was networking config provided" logic to handle BOOTIF rather than blanket applying rd.bootif=0 globally (dustymabe, 16:51:58) * New Package Request: qemu-user-static (dustymabe, 16:52:24) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1088 (dustymabe, 16:52:31) * AGREED: There are obviously packaging enhancements that could be made here (removal of python dep, reduction of shipped emulators by splitting out into subpackages) that are worth making even if we don't include qemu-user-static by default. Once those packaging improvements land we'd need to further consider it for inclusion in FCOS. It's a good idea, but maybe not necessary for the base (dustymabe, 17:04:05) * tracker: Fedora 36 changes considerations (dustymabe, 17:06:27) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/918 (dustymabe, 17:06:33) * some of us met earlier today to sift through and weed out changes that we don't think need discussion. (dustymabe, 17:07:06) * ACTION: jlebon to open issue to investigate "102 Introduce module Obsoletes and EOL" (dustymabe, 17:10:50) * ACTION: we think we can pick up DNSoverTLS changes passively but dustymabe will open a ticket to record the discussion here and provide a space for any issues that come up to be discussed. (dustymabe, 17:14:49) * 111 Drop NIS(+) support from PAM may affect users who use NIS+? likely not though. If so, we should direct them to e.g. LDAP or FreeIPA as the Change proposal suggests. so overall, skip. (dustymabe, 17:16:40) * ACTION: miabbott to open a tracking ticket for early testing of golang 1.18 when it's available (dustymabe, 17:21:16) * ACTION: dustymabe to open an issue for investigation into missing packages preventing auto-updates from working (dustymabe, 17:26:57) * we don't currently include the keylime agent in FCOS but we do generate a hashlist at build time for experimentation. Assuming the format of the hashlist hasn't changed we should be good here. (dustymabe, 17:31:41) * open floor (dustymabe, 17:31:52) * f36 just branched from rawhide, so now f37 exists (dustymabe, 17:32:17) * LINK: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/issues/1093 > Container Plumbing Days 2022. Feel free to suggest a talk! (travier, 17:32:37) Meeting ended at 17:36:01 UTC. Action Items ------------ * jlebon to open issue to investigate "102 Introduce module Obsoletes and EOL" * we think we can pick up DNSoverTLS changes passively but dustymabe will open a ticket to record the discussion here and provide a space for any issues that come up to be discussed. * miabbott to open a tracking ticket for early testing of golang 1.18 when it's available * dustymabe to open an issue for investigation into missing packages preventing auto-updates from working Action Items, by person ----------------------- * dustymabe * we think we can pick up DNSoverTLS changes passively but dustymabe will open a ticket to record the discussion here and provide a space for any issues that come up to be discussed. * dustymabe to open an issue for investigation into missing packages preventing auto-updates from working * jlebon * jlebon to open issue to investigate "102 Introduce module Obsoletes and EOL" * miabbott * miabbott to open a tracking ticket for early testing of golang 1.18 when it's available * **UNASSIGNED** * (none) People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * dustymabe (127) * travier (58) * jlebon (48) * zodbot (31) * miabbott (9) * fifofonix (6) * lucab (6) * miabbott_ (3) * nirik (2) * aaradhak (2) * mnguyen (2) * ravanelli (1) * aaradhak[m] (1) * nemric (1) Generated by `MeetBot`_ 0.4 .. _`MeetBot`: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zodbot#Meeting_Functions

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting
by dusty＠dustymabe.com 08 Feb '22

08 Feb '22

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting on 2022-02-09 from 16:30:00 to 17:30:00 UTC At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.libera.chat The meeting will be about: This is the meeting for the Fedora CoreOS Working Group. We typically go over previous meeting action items and then cover all tickets with the meeting keyword: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/labels/meeting. For how to run the meeting, see https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker#steps-to-run-the-meeting Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/9437/

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Fedora CoreOS Community Video Meeting 2022-02-02
by Dusty Mabe 02 Feb '22

02 Feb '22

Hi All, Tomorrow we will be holding a video meeting for the Fedora CoreOS community. We will be discussing Fedora 36 changes as well as our high level goals. Time: 16:30 UTC (same as normal) on Wednesday February 2nd Location: https://meet.google.com/meo-enbb-rur (will be recorded) Agenda/Notes: https://hackmd.io/R5RGUFUATG-pPl34KhgXXg?view Dusty

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[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting
by dusty＠dustymabe.com 01 Feb '22

01 Feb '22

Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: Fedora CoreOS Group Weekly Meeting on 2022-02-02 from 16:30:00 to 17:30:00 UTC At fedora-meeting-1(a)irc.libera.chat The meeting will be about: This is the meeting for the Fedora CoreOS Working Group. We typically go over previous meeting action items and then cover all tickets with the meeting keyword: https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker/labels/meeting. For how to run the meeting, see https://github.com/coreos/fedora-coreos-tracker#steps-to-run-the-meeting Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/9437/

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