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status of forked zlibs in rsync and zsync
by Adam Williamson 01 Oct '09

01 Oct '09

Hi, everyone. We - the QA group - have recently been researching the feasibility of using zsync to reduce the size of live image downloads. This has hit a roadblock in the form of the problem where both rsync and zsync use forked zlibs rather than linking against the system copy. It seems there was a flurry of activity surrounding this problem in April through June - see: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/134 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=490140 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478617 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=495310 but everything seems to have gone quiet since then. At present we are still in the contradictory and unsatisfactory position of shipping rsync with an internal forked zlib but refusing to accept zsync as a package because it does exactly the same thing. I just wondered if there's a roadmap for where we go from here, or if the issue is just sitting idle waiting for someone to apply a kick to it :) Can you guys clarify what's happening with this? Thanks! (kparal - Kamil Paral - is the QA team member who's been investigating the usefulness of zsync). -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net

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by Fedora compose checker 01 Oct '09

01 Oct '09

Compose started at Thu Oct 1 06:15:05 UTC 2009 Broken deps for i386 ---------------------------------------------------------- PolicyKit-olpc-1.2-2.fc11.noarch requires /var/lib/PolicyKit-public argus-2.0.6.fixes.1-16.fc11.i586 requires libpcap.so.0.9 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libcluttermm-0.8.so.2 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0 clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires pkgconfig(cluttermm-0.8) clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.8) clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-gtk-0.9.so.0 clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0 clutter-gtkmm-devel-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires pkgconfig(clutter-gtk-0.9) glom-1.10.1-1.fc12.i586 requires libgdamm-4.0.so.11 glom-libs-1.10.1-1.fc12.i586 requires libgdamm-4.0.so.11 labrea-2.5.1-2.fc10.i386 requires libpcap.so.0.9 libvirt-qpid-0.2.17-0.fc12.i686 requires libqmfagent.so.2 libvirt-qpid-0.2.17-0.fc12.i686 requires libqpidclient.so.2 libvirt-qpid-0.2.17-0.fc12.i686 requires libqpidcommon.so.2 libvirt-qpid-0.2.17-0.fc12.i686 requires libqmfcommon.so.2 matahari-0.0.4-5.fc12.i686 requires libqmfagent.so.2 matahari-0.0.4-5.fc12.i686 requires libqpidclient.so.2 matahari-0.0.4-5.fc12.i686 requires libqpidcommon.so.2 matahari-0.0.4-5.fc12.i686 requires libqmfcommon.so.2 network-manager-netbook-1.2-5.fc12.i686 requires libnm_glib.so.0 ngrep-1.45-5.fc11.i586 requires libpcap.so.0.9 perl-POE-Component-Client-HTTP-0.85-3.fc11.noarch requires perl(POE::Component::Client::Keepalive) >= 0:0.0901 rhn-check-0.7.3-1.fc12.noarch requires yum-rhn-plugin >= 0:0.5.3-30 yersinia-0.7.1-3.fc11.i586 requires libpcap.so.0.9 Broken deps for x86_64 ---------------------------------------------------------- PolicyKit-olpc-1.2-2.fc11.noarch requires /var/lib/PolicyKit-public argus-2.0.6.fixes.1-16.fc11.x86_64 requires libpcap.so.0.9()(64bit) clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libcluttermm-0.8.so.2 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0()(64bit) clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0()(64bit) clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires libcluttermm-0.8.so.2()(64bit) clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires pkgconfig(cluttermm-0.8) clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.i586 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.8) clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires pkgconfig(cluttermm-0.8) clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.x86_64 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.8) clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-gtk-0.9.so.0 clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0 clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.x86_64 requires libclutter-gtk-0.9.so.0()(64bit) clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.x86_64 requires libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0()(64bit) clutter-gtkmm-devel-0.9.4-1.fc12.i586 requires pkgconfig(clutter-gtk-0.9) clutter-gtkmm-devel-0.9.4-1.fc12.x86_64 requires pkgconfig(clutter-gtk-0.9) glom-1.10.1-1.fc12.x86_64 requires libgdamm-4.0.so.11()(64bit) glom-libs-1.10.1-1.fc12.i586 requires libgdamm-4.0.so.11 glom-libs-1.10.1-1.fc12.x86_64 requires libgdamm-4.0.so.11()(64bit) labrea-2.5.1-2.fc10.x86_64 requires libpcap.so.0.9()(64bit) libvirt-qpid-0.2.17-0.fc12.x86_64 requires libqpidcommon.so.2()(64bit) libvirt-qpid-0.2.17-0.fc12.x86_64 requires libqmfagent.so.2()(64bit) libvirt-qpid-0.2.17-0.fc12.x86_64 requires libqmfcommon.so.2()(64bit) libvirt-qpid-0.2.17-0.fc12.x86_64 requires libqpidclient.so.2()(64bit) matahari-0.0.4-5.fc12.x86_64 requires libqpidcommon.so.2()(64bit) matahari-0.0.4-5.fc12.x86_64 requires libqmfagent.so.2()(64bit) matahari-0.0.4-5.fc12.x86_64 requires libqmfcommon.so.2()(64bit) matahari-0.0.4-5.fc12.x86_64 requires libqpidclient.so.2()(64bit) network-manager-netbook-1.2-5.fc12.x86_64 requires libnm_glib.so.0()(64bit) ngrep-1.45-5.fc11.x86_64 requires libpcap.so.0.9()(64bit) perl-POE-Component-Client-HTTP-0.85-3.fc11.noarch requires perl(POE::Component::Client::Keepalive) >= 0:0.0901 rhn-check-0.7.3-1.fc12.noarch requires yum-rhn-plugin >= 0:0.5.3-30 yersinia-0.7.1-3.fc11.x86_64 requires libpcap.so.0.9()(64bit) Broken deps for ppc ---------------------------------------------------------- PolicyKit-olpc-1.2-2.fc11.noarch requires /var/lib/PolicyKit-public argus-2.0.6.fixes.1-16.fc11.ppc requires libpcap.so.0.9 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.ppc requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.ppc requires libcluttermm-0.8.so.2 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.ppc requires libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0 clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0()(64bit) clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.ppc64 requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0()(64bit) clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.ppc64 requires 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libvirt-qpid-0.2.17-0.fc12.ppc requires libqmfagent.so.2 libvirt-qpid-0.2.17-0.fc12.ppc requires libqpidclient.so.2 libvirt-qpid-0.2.17-0.fc12.ppc requires libqpidcommon.so.2 libvirt-qpid-0.2.17-0.fc12.ppc requires libqmfcommon.so.2 matahari-0.0.4-5.fc12.ppc requires libqmfagent.so.2 matahari-0.0.4-5.fc12.ppc requires libqpidclient.so.2 matahari-0.0.4-5.fc12.ppc requires libqpidcommon.so.2 matahari-0.0.4-5.fc12.ppc requires libqmfcommon.so.2 network-manager-netbook-1.2-5.fc12.ppc requires libnm_glib.so.0 ngrep-1.45-5.fc11.ppc requires libpcap.so.0.9 perl-POE-Component-Client-HTTP-0.85-3.fc11.noarch requires perl(POE::Component::Client::Keepalive) >= 0:0.0901 rhn-check-0.7.3-1.fc12.noarch requires yum-rhn-plugin >= 0:0.5.3-30 yersinia-0.7.1-3.fc11.ppc requires libpcap.so.0.9 Broken deps for ppc64 ---------------------------------------------------------- PolicyKit-olpc-1.2-2.fc11.noarch requires /var/lib/PolicyKit-public argus-2.0.6.fixes.1-16.fc11.ppc64 requires libpcap.so.0.9()(64bit) clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.8.so.0()(64bit) clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.ppc64 requires libclutter-cairo-0.8.so.0()(64bit) clutter-cairomm-0.7.4-2.fc11.ppc64 requires libcluttermm-0.8.so.2()(64bit) clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.ppc64 requires pkgconfig(cluttermm-0.8) clutter-cairomm-devel-0.7.4-2.fc11.ppc64 requires pkgconfig(clutter-0.8) clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.ppc64 requires libclutter-gtk-0.9.so.0()(64bit) clutter-gtkmm-0.9.4-1.fc12.ppc64 requires libclutter-glx-0.9.so.0()(64bit) clutter-gtkmm-devel-0.9.4-1.fc12.ppc64 requires pkgconfig(clutter-gtk-0.9) glom-1.10.1-1.fc12.ppc64 requires libgdamm-4.0.so.11()(64bit) glom-libs-1.10.1-1.fc12.ppc64 requires libgdamm-4.0.so.11()(64bit) labrea-2.5.1-2.fc10.ppc64 requires libpcap.so.0.9()(64bit) libvirt-qpid-0.2.17-0.fc12.ppc64 requires libqpidcommon.so.2()(64bit) libvirt-qpid-0.2.17-0.fc12.ppc64 requires libqmfagent.so.2()(64bit) libvirt-qpid-0.2.17-0.fc12.ppc64 requires libqmfcommon.so.2()(64bit) libvirt-qpid-0.2.17-0.fc12.ppc64 requires libqpidclient.so.2()(64bit) matahari-0.0.4-5.fc12.ppc64 requires libqpidcommon.so.2()(64bit) matahari-0.0.4-5.fc12.ppc64 requires libqmfagent.so.2()(64bit) matahari-0.0.4-5.fc12.ppc64 requires libqmfcommon.so.2()(64bit) matahari-0.0.4-5.fc12.ppc64 requires libqpidclient.so.2()(64bit) network-manager-netbook-1.2-5.fc12.ppc64 requires libnm_glib.so.0()(64bit) ngrep-1.45-5.fc11.ppc64 requires libpcap.so.0.9()(64bit) perl-POE-Component-Client-HTTP-0.85-3.fc11.noarch requires perl(POE::Component::Client::Keepalive) >= 0:0.0901 python-mwlib-0.11.2-3.20090522hg2956.fc12.ppc64 requires LabPlot rhn-check-0.7.3-1.fc12.noarch requires yum-rhn-plugin >= 0:0.5.3-30 yersinia-0.7.1-3.fc11.ppc64 requires libpcap.so.0.9()(64bit) Removed package perl-POE-Component-Client-Keepalive Updated Packages: anerley-0.1.4-1.fc12 -------------------- * Wed Sep 30 2009 Peter Robinson <pbrobinson(a)gmail.com> 0.1.4-1 - New upstream 0.1.4 release, drop upstreamed MC5 patches control-center-2.28.0-12.fc12 ----------------------------- * Wed Sep 30 2009 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> 2.28.0-12 - Fix a crash in the display capplet cups-1.4.1-6.fc12 ----------------- * Wed Sep 30 2009 Tim Waugh <twaugh(a)redhat.com> 1:1.4.1-6 - Don't use cached PPD for raw queue (bug #526405, STR #3356). gdb-6.8.91.20090930-2.fc12 -------------------------- * Wed Sep 30 2009 Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil(a)redhat.com> - 6.8.91.20090930-1 - Fix broken python "help()" command "modules" (BZ 526552). - Upgrade to the FSF GDB gdb-7.0 snapshot: 6.8.91.20090930 - archer-jankratochvil-fedora12 commit: 7cb860f03e2437c97239334ebe240d06f45723e0 * Wed Sep 30 2009 Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil(a)redhat.com> - 6.8.91.20090930-2 - Bump release. * Sun Sep 27 2009 Jan Kratochvil <jan.kratochvil(a)redhat.com> - 6.8.91.20090925-3 - New test for step-resume breakpoint placed in multiple threads at once. kio_sysinfo-20090930-1.fc12 --------------------------- * Wed Sep 30 2009 Lukáš 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--------------------------- yum-3.2.24-9.fc12 ----------------- * Wed Sep 30 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.24-8 - fix up broken build b/c of version-groups.conf file * Wed Sep 30 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.24-9 - revert yum. import patch b/c it breaks a bunch of things * Tue Sep 29 2009 Seth Vidal <skvidal at fedoraproject.org> - 3.2.24-7 - fixes for odd outputs from ts.run and logs for what we store in history Summary: Added Packages: 0 Removed Packages: 1 Modified Packages: 11

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[KDE] Which Phonon? Phonon backend - GStreamer or Xine?
by Jaroslav Reznik 01 Oct '09

01 Oct '09

Hi! We, KDE SIG, are considering which backend should be default for Phonon in Fedora. Seems like it's not easy to agree on final decision @ KDE SIG meetings, we'd like to summarize what's the problem, some backends facts (please correct me, comment, add, etc.) and we'd like to hear comments from outer KDE SIG universe, from you, Fedora developers & users, too. First question is which Phonon use - there are two actually - one is part of Qt, one is part of KDE. Upstream recommends building/packaging phonon from qt, and building/packaging backends separately. Some backends facts... GStreamer backend facts: * now default one in Fedora (F12, rawhide) * GStreamer is Fedora's default multimedia framework - better support from Fedora side? (PA, releases) * Phonon backend not as mature as Xine one - missing functionality * Maybe more support from upstream developers in the future? [1] * Nokia is upstream Xine backend facts: * default in F10 & F11 * recommended by sandsmark (upstream developer) and Amarok team * Xine is not as well supported as GStreamer in Fedora - but currently nearly bug free * KDE is upstream We prepared test plan but still we don't have any response from our users. For some users Xine one works better, for others GStreamer backend works better. Seems like it depends on sound HW, ALSA support, PA, engine, backend -> lots of possibilities. So there are two questions: 1. which Phonon 2. which backend fits better to Fedora... [1] http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/phonon-backends/2009-September/000304.html Jaroslav & KDE SIG

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kvm failing to install.
by Nilesh Patil 01 Oct '09

01 Oct '09

Hi, I download the latest kvm-88 from http://sourceforge.net/projects/kvm/files/ . But when i did /'make'/ its failing for following error, CC [M] /dl/kvm-88/kvm/kernel/x86/x86.o In file included from /dl/kvm-88/kvm/kernel/x86/trace.h:355, from /dl/kvm-88/kvm/kernel/x86/x86.c:83: include/trace/define_trace.h:53:43: error: arch/x86/kvm/trace.h: No such file or directory make[4]: *** [/dl/kvm-88/kvm/kernel/x86/x86.o] Error 1 make[3]: *** [/dl/kvm-88/kvm/kernel/x86] Error 2 make[2]: *** [_module_/dl/kvm-88/kvm/kernel] Error 2 make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make: *** [kvm-kmod] Error 2 I have AMD processor supported '/svm/' Is this known error? - Nilesh

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Re: bitmap-fonts by default?
by Nicolas Mailhot 01 Oct '09

01 Oct '09

Le Mer 30 septembre 2009 16:35, Qianqian Fang a écrit : > > Jens Petersen wrote: >> We have been looking at updating bitmap-fonts recently, >> and noticed that it is still listed mandatory in the comps >> @base-x group. >> >> So I just wondered a couple of naive questions: >> >> - does bitmap-fonts have to be installed by default? >> - what actually needs it? >> > > anything before X may still need bitmap fonts, don't they? The problem is, we have a lot of stuff installed by default in base-x because something "may" use it (even though no one actually checked that was still the case). IMHO default packages in default groups should have a clear user, or be downgraded to optional. -- Nicolas Mailhot

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Final Review of Incomplete Fedora 12 Features
by John Poelstra 30 Sep '09

30 Sep '09

Hi FESCo, With the passing of Beta Freeze we are now at the point in our release process where we expect all features to be at 100% completion. After requesting status updates, including direct email to the feature owners, the following feature pages do not have a current status. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-announce/2009-September/msg000… https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DisplayPort https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/LowerProcessCapabilities https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/NFSv4Default In accordance with our recorded policy of requiring that all features be at 100% at Beta Freeze, I am proposing these features for your review to determine what their disposition should be. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Policy/Dropping Thank you, John p.s. I'm going based solely on the information on the feature page. p.s.s. Feature owners are also being bcc'd on this message and a copy is also being sent to fedora-devel-announce. _______________________________________________ Fedora-devel-announce mailing list Fedora-devel-announce(a)redhat.com https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-devel-announce

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